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Canadian PM Elbows Female Politician in Chest...

I know - the woman had it coming, right? Solid, traditional defense for most assaults.

And of course his apology is enough - the fact he's been exposed as a prick is all that's necessary and now all the world is aware and that's perfect.



Oh for ****s sakes. Now you're acting like a socialist troll putting words in my mouth. That is so beneath you, and beneath a response. It is only because I once respected you that I do


You and everyone else on this forum knows if Harper had done it you'd be defending him

For once get the partisan glasses off and see for yourself IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.

Too bad you're such a small person that a sincere apology doesn't suffice. You may want to consider taking up residence with your tribe south of the border becuase I can see you are not going to enjoy the Canada that's unfolding
 
Yes, of course, another who thinks a rampaging Liberal Prime Minister is blameless and the damn woman had it coming because she was standing too close. Maybe she wanted to be raped too, he's so irresistible, right?



Oh dear.

Another one who can't see...or won't see.

Accidents happen even to the people you despise because they are not of your tribe.

And again, hold on to that ember hot grudge in the wake of an apology. I'm used to it...my daughters would act like that when they were two years old.

I think your problem is that Harper never apologized and you're now seeing the GREAT ROBOT in a lesser light now that an adult is in power
 
The minute the Prime Minister left his seat to strong arm a fellow MP into a position the Prime Minister wanted, all consequences of his actions were intentional.

You should be a defense attorney for drunk drivers because not a single one of them feels the consequences of their actions were intentional.



Now you're in voodoo land. How does a every action a person makes become intentional. Second there is no possible way for you top know that.

Two, what proof do you have since the video is pretty ****ing clear.

It's 100% bias. You're acting like a Trump supporter.


I guess you're in love with the socialists now too, since it was they who created the whole mess.
 
Oh for ****s sakes. Now you're acting like a socialist troll putting words in my mouth. That is so beneath you, and beneath a response. It is only because I once respected you that I do


You and everyone else on this forum knows if Harper had done it you'd be defending him

For once get the partisan glasses off and see for yourself IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.

Too bad you're such a small person that a sincere apology doesn't suffice. You may want to consider taking up residence with your tribe south of the border becuase I can see you are not going to enjoy the Canada that's unfolding

Your personal insult are noted and rejected.
 
Your personal insult are noted and rejected.



Now you're being childish.

I think we're done. Honestly, you were one of few on this forum that I held in high regard. Since your bumb boy got his ass handed to him for being out of touch with the country, frankly, there isn't much reason to follow you. Sadly, the stuff you post has become partisan slush, propaganda and outright lies.

And called on them you won't defend them. Sadly I say good bye
 
Now you're in voodoo land. How does a every action a person makes become intentional. Second there is no possible way for you top know that.

Two, what proof do you have since the video is pretty ****ing clear.

It's 100% bias. You're acting like a Trump supporter.


I guess you're in love with the socialists now too, since it was they who created the whole mess.

All you've got is personal insults because you know the Prime Minister's actions were and are indefensible but you're so wedded to his success that admitting it would require you admitting you were wrong and we all know from history here that you'd much rather attack other posters than admit you were wrong.
 
Now you're being childish.

I think we're done. Honestly, you were one of few on this forum that I held in high regard. Since your bumb boy got his ass handed to him for being out of touch with the country, frankly, there isn't much reason to follow you. Sadly, the stuff you post has become partisan slush, propaganda and outright lies.

And called on them you won't defend them. Sadly I say good bye

Your further personal insults are noted and rejected.
 
All you've got is personal insults because you know the Prime Minister's actions were and are indefensible but you're so wedded to his success that admitting it would require you admitting you were wrong and we all know from history here that you'd much rather attack other posters than admit you were wrong.



As I said, good bye....if you think anything I said was an insult, report it.
 
The minute the Prime Minister left his seat to strong arm a fellow MP into a position the Prime Minister wanted, all consequences of his actions were intentional.

You should be a defense attorney for drunk drivers because not a single one of them feels the consequences of their actions were intentional.

The time this MP was hindering the democratic process is reprehensible IMHO. Should Trudeau have taken it on himself to get him to his seat, no, but there is zero intentional contact with this lady, this was totally accidental and it is this kind of petty partisan nonsense that is poisoning the political atmosphere.
 
Yes, of course, another who thinks a rampaging Liberal Prime Minister is blameless and the damn woman had it coming because she was standing too close. Maybe she wanted to be raped too, he's so irresistible, right?

Sorry, I had not read it totally through, your fist sentence was ridiculous enough but then you added the second sentence in that response and I have to think

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On what planet are you? Ridiculous post world where a small elbow accident gets warped into a "she might wanted to be raped too" comment?

Sorry, but this is so ridiculous that it is ludicrous. And no, nobody wanted anybody to be raped and to suggest this about a involuntary and accidental elbow contact is insane.
 
And now, fittingly, the Liberal sycophants are flooding the victim's email, facebook, office phone lines with vicious comments telling her to resign and she's a baby and she makes females look bad, etc. all to save the ignorant POS we have for a Prime Minister, and you're just dandy with all of that, I'm sure.

It is really unjustifiable for you to presume that your own invented offensive stereotype applies specifically to someone here.

I know - the woman had it coming, right? Solid, traditional defense for most assaults.

And of course his apology is enough - the fact he's been exposed as a prick is all that's necessary and now all the world is aware and that's perfect.

Woman had it coming ? Where are you pulling this from ? Where are you taking this ?

Yes, of course, another who thinks a rampaging Liberal Prime Minister is blameless and the damn woman had it coming because she was standing too close. Maybe she wanted to be raped too, he's so irresistible, right?

Right, now you're equivocating an accident with rape- this is a miserably dishonest appeal to emotion fallacy.
 
Unfortunately, Prime Minister Trudeau won't be in any trouble because Liberals, small L and capital L, are shameless and ignore any criticism of themselves.

It would be nice if the young lady MP in this case filed charges of assault against him. And following that, a civil suit would be nice as well. Take the arrogant asshole through the wringer.

It that not right over the top.
Assault and a civil suit.
 
It that not right over the top.
Assault and a civil suit.

So how long do you think it will take Sneaky Pete, Jr to anger enough people to cost the Liberals 16 seats and their majority? The bigger the excrement sandwich he serves up, the better the chance for the Conservatives to get back the majority. You should celebrate these things. Of course it's easy for me to cheer little Trudeau falling flat on his face because I don't have to live with the consequences.
 
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So how long do you think it will take Sneaky Pete, Jr to anger enough people to cost the Liberals 16 seats and their majority? The bigger the excrement sandwich he serves up, the better the chance for the Conservatives to get back the majority. You should celebrate these things. Of course it's easy for me to cheer little Trudeau falling flat on his face because I don't have to live with the consequences.
And you know little of Canadian Politics.
 
So how long do you think it will take Sneaky Pete, Jr to anger enough people to cost the Liberals 16 seats and their majority? The bigger the excrement sandwich he serves up, the better the chance for the Conservatives to get back the majority. You should celebrate these things. Of course it's easy for me to cheer little Trudeau falling flat on his face because I don't have to live with the consequences.

He would probably have to murder someone at this point, his polls are astronomical at the moment.
 
And you know little of Canadian Politics.

I know more about Canadian politics than 95% of the US population. I have read from afar about Canadian politics since 1984. I would bet that I know about Canadian politics on par with the average citizen up there, fiftieth percentile if you gave me a quiz. Perhaps you can be useful and direct me to a good quiz. So as a Canadian, would you rather see Americans make the attempt the study the topic or would rather see Americans that just don't give a flip about Canada?


He would probably have to murder someone at this point, his polls are astronomical at the moment.

I wonder if the balloon can deflate in four years or if eight will be necessary.
 
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Oh, leave the handsome young socialist prince alone, he is just being...eh...Kennedyesque.

At last a good comment! Justin Trudeau is a certified feminist and progressive. Whatever he does is therefore the right thing to do. To suggest otherwise is reactionary - the incident smells like a conservative plot to me. The woman should be charged with willful and malicious assault on the graceful, well formed and really quite beautiful Trudeau elbow.
 
I know more about Canadian politics than 95% of the US population. I have read from afar about Canadian politics since 1984. I would bet that I know about Canadian politics on par with the average citizen up there, fiftieth percentile if you gave me a quiz. Perhaps you can be useful and direct me to a good quiz. So as a Canadian, would you rather see Americans make the attempt the study the topic or would rather see Americans that just don't give a flip about Canada?




I wonder if the balloon can deflate in four years or if eight will be necessary.


Going by past history- 8 years.
 
I know more about Canadian politics than 95% of the US population. I have read from afar about Canadian politics since 1984. I would bet that I know about Canadian politics on par with the average citizen up there, fiftieth percentile if you gave me a quiz. Perhaps you can be useful and direct me to a good quiz. So as a Canadian, would you rather see Americans make the attempt the study the topic or would rather see Americans that just don't give a flip about Canada?



I wonder if the balloon can deflate in four years or if eight will be necessary.



That may be so, but your "knowledge" is highly tainted by your bias. "Sneaky Pete" junior?

There are many things to say about both Trudeaus, and especially about the old man. But one thing for sure with both of them, neither is or was "sneaky". With both they meet you head on. As defense minister during the October Crisis, did Pierre even flinch. "Just watch me" are not the words of a "sneak".

I believe your distaste for true liberalism and resentment of Canada's Natural Governing Party kind of skew your "knowledge".
 
Going by past history- 8 years.



Since Mulroney we have seen a pattern for longer periods of tolerance of a party. Chretien ruled for ten years, while the Liberals hung on for twelve. We were wary of Harper and gave him only minorities, but he got ten at the helm.

What will be a big factor is what the Liberals propose as a replacement for "first past the post." Remember, Trudeau never said there would be public input on that question and it appears he's going to invent an electoral system to his liking, meaning the best for the Liberals. If there is one thing to respect about these guys is their hutzpa.
 
He would probably have to murder someone at this point, his polls are astronomical at the moment.



That's a bit extreme, but close.

The day after his apology I was on the bus with a native woman who was talking to her friends. They were laughing about it and said "he's such a brat". We'll see, Cross Country Check Up has not aired here yet, my guess is Canada is kinda proud of it, its showing up the elitists blocking "democracy", kind of the same as when Pierre said "**** you" in the commons and claimed he said "fuddle duddle", or when he gave the finger to a protester in Salmon Arm, or when he shoved a reporter.

And remember, Jean Chretien grabbed a protester by the neck and choked him on camera...his approval ratings went up. In a day and age where the likes of Donald Trump can get to where he is, accidentally elbowing a woman who was deliberately blocking his way is peanuts.
 
Since Mulroney we have seen a pattern for longer periods of tolerance of a party. Chretien ruled for ten years, while the Liberals hung on for twelve. We were wary of Harper and gave him only minorities, but he got ten at the helm.

What will be a big factor is what the Liberals propose as a replacement for "first past the post." Remember, Trudeau never said there would be public input on that question and it appears he's going to invent an electoral system to his liking, meaning the best for the Liberals. If there is one thing to respect about these guys is their hutzpa.

And that change without a referendum for choices I am against.
 
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