Can you point to one real lie Trump told, with the exact quote and link?

[ElChupacabra]

The Irony in this one sentence...Wow..:lamo

Oh the mental gymnastics in this thread are awesome!

 

[jaeger19]

This thread is not about the President's history or anybody's perception or opinions about his history, or whether he lies or does not lie.

The OP asked for somebody to provide an exact quotation of his, using his exact words in their full context, that constitutes a lie, i.e. a deliberate attempt to deceive. So far nobody has done that.

so far.. there have been multiple examples of such.

 

[Luckyone]

Once again, if you think Trump lied about something, type or paste the detail here, along with a link. If you choose to point at websites or what other people said, or post waffling diatribe, then you failed to do what the OP asks. It's a pretty simple task, and if you can't do that, it's all the more evidence Trump doesn't lie.

Since you continue to post the same post over and over again, I will do the same.

Here is a clear lie:

Trump Tweeted on Jun 28, 2018 07:30:31 AM - Peter Strzok worked as the leader of the Rigged Witch Hunt for a long period of time - he got it started and was only fired because the gig was up. But remember, he took his orders from Comey and McCabe and they took their orders from you know who. Mueller/Comey best friends!

Strzok was NOT "the" leader of the "witch hunt", he was second in command.

As such, Trump's post about him being "the leader" is a blatant lie meant to deceive.

You asked for a lie that could be proven, this is it!

By the way, even Trump is saying in this tweet that he is lying. His own words are "he took orders from Comey and McCabe", meaning he was not the leader of anything.

 

[jaeger19]

Those charged and/or who have pled guilty have included Russian nationals who had zero to do with President Trump, Manfort and two of his associates charged for something totally unrelated to anything to do with Trump or Russian collusion, one person for making false statements and identity theft that had nothing to do with Russian collusion or President Trump, and all others have pled guilty to making inconsequential false statements to the FBI who chose not to charge Hillary for any of her much more consequential false statements to the FBI.

Not a single indictment of any kind related to ANY collusion with Russia regarding the President or his campaign.

It's a witch hunt and President Trump cannot be faulted for calling it such. Most honest Americans now agree.

. . .Fortunately, the American people are starting to realize that the Mueller probe is nothing but a witch hunt. In an April Rasmussen Reports poll, only 46% of Americans believed that the Special Counsel investigation was an “honest attempt to determine criminal wrongdoing.” This is a decrease of 6% from October, when 52% supported Mueller’s investigation. . .​

https://townhall.com/columnists/jef...ans-are-tiring-of-mueller-witch-hunt-n2477708

For the President to characterize something the same way that millions of us characterize it is not telling a lie.

Whoa their cowgirl. So when a investigator uncovers 5 people that have pled guilty and others that have been indicted by an independent grand jury.. ( I think this is 22 in total).. that constitutes a "witch hunt".?

that makes no sense whatsoever. He already has 5 guilty pleas and a number of people indicted by grand jury. thats anything but a witch hunt. He is uncovering wrong doing and following the investigation where it takes him.. not the other way around. and its led to guilty pleas..

 

[JMR]

No, Strzok was not the leader of that "part" of the investigation, Mueller was and is. Strzok was a secondary person (to Mueller). Nothing in that office gets done without Mueller's approval. That is why Strzok was fired by Mueller before any of this was made public. Leaders don't fire themselves, they quit. Strzok was not the leader.

I am constantly amazed at how you Trumpians explain things away. Now using Obama and misspeaking about how many states he visited.

There is a big difference between that and Trump saying that Strzok is the leader of the FBI in the Trump investigation. When Trump says "he is the leader" (not a leader) you are putting a bullseye on Strzok and we know full well how Trump likes to put "bullseyes" on people he does not like. He has targeted many in that way. As such, it was not a "mistake" when he said he was "the leader". He knew full well that he was putting a bullseye on him incorrectly.

He blatantly liedl!

It appears the theme of this thread is Trump supporters cannot recognize a lie or an untruth without a print out of the specific words and audio of said words and a link to said words and an historical study of said words in the context of when spoken and a sociological study of the context of who was spoken to, along with a psychological study of what the innocent framework for such words would be vs. the guilty framework for such words, and then there is the always convenient Trump cannot be specific on Twitter and Trump cannot be held responsible for repeating the lies of others and Trump might be inaccurate because he shoots from the hip and Trump is gonna save us and Trump is a billionaire and banks love Trump and so should we!!! In short they cannot recognize **** from shinola, as the old statement went.

I think the OP called in his tag team. Very amusing thread...

 

[Deuce]

Once again, if you think Trump lied about something, type or paste the detail here, along with a link. If you choose to point at websites or what other people said, or post waffling diatribe, then you failed to do what the OP asks. It's a pretty simple task, and if you can't do that, it's all the more evidence Trump doesn't lie.

You’ve been given dozens of examples. You’re not rebutting them, you’re plugging your ears and saying LA LA LA CANT HEAR YOU

 

[Bullseye]

Whoa their cowgirl. So when a investigator uncovers 5 people that have pled guilty and others that have been indicted by an independent grand jury.. ( I think this is 22 in total).. that constitutes a "witch hunt".?

that makes no sense whatsoever. He already has 5 guilty pleas and a number of people indicted by grand jury. thats anything but a witch hunt. He is uncovering wrong doing and following the investigation where it takes him.. not the other way around. and its led to guilty pleas..

which, if any, has been indicted or pled guilty to a crime related to any alleged collusion with Russia? That was kinda Mueller's primary goal. And, yean, yeah, I KNOW he was also authorized to investigate any other criminal matter he uncovered, which, so is all he's done.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

In the picture you provided none of the statements attributed to Trump are lies. Promises are not lies even if he fails to deliver if he really means them. Outrageous opinions are still only opinions, not lies.

I'm beginning to think that the OP is right. You guys can't come up with a real Trump lie. The only one that even comes close is that he didn't f*** Stormy, but it's still possible that he's telling the truth on that one, too.

It's astonishing, really. I always had Trump pegged as a blowhard, but maybe I was selling him short.\

Besides which, if you did prove he lied about something, is that anything new? A politician who lies? Surely you've heard of that sort of thing before.

Well said. To tell you the truth I was hoping someone could come up with something, but it helped me realize what CNN and co. are up against. It is hard work untangling their allegations and must be hard work fabricating them in the first place. I’ve also learned that politifact.com is the place they like to store their false Trump allegations. Just as you can follow a bee back to its hive, you can follow most allegations about Trump back to politifact, a hive full of fake allegations and misinformation. I looked at them too, while doing this.

Politifact.com (or politifake as I call them) are mostly funded by “Democracy Fund” created by eBay founder Pierre Morad Omidyar in 2011. Pierre Omidyar is a 51 year old French-American billionaire of Iranian parentage.

He’s bound to be an extreme leftie, like so many of the 80’s college kids slash online entrepreneurs (Google, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Apple), but he masks it so you have to dig a little. He owns a site called omidyar.com which, as you can see from their ‘who we are’ page, is involved in helping 3rd world people.

To find an example of their left winged lean one can go to Google and type this in the search:

environmentalism site:omidyar.com

Or click here.

That will search their whole site for the word environmentalism and voila, you get this revealing pdf file.

Here are some excerpts (emphasis mine):

What is a movement?

A range of landmark social movements took place in the twentieth century, including the women’s suffrage movement, the civil rights movement, and the environmental movement, among others.

Of the most influential 21st-century social movements active today, some have been sparked by technological influence (e.g. Occupy, the Arab Spring, #BlackLivesMatter), while others represent an evolution of existing social movements (e.g. the expansion of the movement for climate action to include substantial online activity).

WHY SOCIAL MOVEMENTS MATTER

Social movements have tremendous potential to make impact by galvanizing and channeling collective power. For issues that affect many people, where many people might benefit from societal shifts, or where many people are showing signs of motivation and activity, movements can be powerful vehicles for changing concrete policies (e.g. raising the minimum wage), for changing cultural attitudes and perceptions (e.g. embracing same sex marriage), and also for changing individuals’ behavior at mass scale (e.g. adopting energy-saving practices).​

​

Politifact is devoted to making Trump look like a liar, and surprise surprise, it’s mostly funded by an Iranian/American lefty who supports all the Left winged extreme groups and ideologies. My – how unexpected!

 

[Rob Larrikin]

:lamo Wow. You really are as advertised.

So what we've learned (or confirmed) in this thread is NOT that Trump has told no lies, but that you and your ilk are just not honorable, decent people when it comes to political debate/dialogue.

And, I'm sorry, but you and your kind simply do not get to dismiss OBJECTIVE, VERIFIED FACTS as "fake news". I posted direct links to EVERY SINGLE documented LIE or "misrepresentation" by Trump since January 20, 2017. The sum total, as of a few days ago, stood at THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FIFTY ONE (3,251) DOCUMENTED LIES by the President of the Deplorables.

So your task is to read the link and see if you can challenge ANY (must less all) of the 3215 VERIFIED, DOCUMENTED Trump lies. If you cannot (and we BOTH know that you cannot), then your entire argument is gutted and we can all just agree that you and your ilk are brainwashed know-nothing Trump acolytes whose rhetoric should be taken with a proverbial grain of salt.

Deal?

Now, run along and do your homework.

Forget about your thousands of Trump lies. Just post one. Don't forget the link.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

The "compelling" dynamic of the evidence is airtight. It would hold up in a court of law. Compelling circumstantial evidence, factoring in a defendent's past history of deceit shows a pattern of conduct, making the already compelling circumstantial evidence even more compelling than it is, is more than enough to convict in many crimes.

I've done what is needed to prove to a reasonable person he lied.

You are merely unreasonable. The reason you are unreasonable is that you have been blinded by a master flim flam man.

Read the Art Of the Deal, he even admits to doing it. The fact that he writes a book and brags in the book about doing the very thing he is accused of, makes it, on top of every thing else, even more compelling than it is already compelling.


I'm not a lawyer, but if you and I were arguing this point in a court of law, I would shred you, slice and dice you, and a whole assortment of mince meat metaphors every which way with the greatest of ease !!!!


You've been TRUMPED!


LOL!


PS, and don't argue the above doesn't apply because lying about sex isn't a crime. NO, but the payment could easily be determined to be a campaign finance violation. So, this will, at some point, be argued in a court of law.

All this is talk, and talk is cheap. Provide an example of a lie, and a link that shows it is a lie. I know it's difficult (I've tried myself and can't find one) but if you can't do that, then all the bluster and hype in the world isn't much good is it? Think about that. What would it look like to any group of important people who assigned you the task of finding a Trump lie.

Scene: San Diego City. Old building. Big table. 10 men. Oscar sits timidly at end.

Man: Okay Oscar, did you collect the evidence of Trump lies?
Oscar: Um…
Man: Well?
Oscar: Well, look, Trump lies, there’s no doubt about that. Everyone knows he’s a…
Man: Where is the evidence? You searched for it, right?
Oscar: Yes, I spent all week…
Man: And?
Oscar: And… well, um…
Man: Well what? Where are the ****ing results?
Oscar: Look, it’s not easy. Most of them turn out to be false leads.
Man: Huh?
Oscar: It’s hard to nail him down when you actually take them apart.
Man: You couldn’t find no lies?
Oscar: I know he lied about Stormy Daniels.
Man: Who?
Oscar: You know, that porn star.
Man: Porn star, porn star…
Oscar: A bimbo he screwed.
Man: So what if he screwed a porn star? We want something important.
Oscar: Well, I tried, but look, the porn star can be important…
Man: Okay, so you got the evidence for that lie?
Oscar: Not exactly.
Man: Whaddya mean?
Oscar: Well I thought I had it, but when I went through it with a fine toothed comb…
Man: Yeah?
Oscar: …I can’t actually point to actual evidence he lied.
Man: You can’t?
Oscar: But I know he did! I know it! I just know it! Everybody knows it!
Man: We didn’t pay you to tell us you know it. We paid you to get the proof.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

Actually its questionable whether he is a billionaire.. because that might be a lie.. .but he DEFINITELY became rich by being an outright liar. And he definitely became POTUS by being an outright liar.

The problem is.. folks like yourself.. will follow him despite Trumps outright lies.

No, the problem is that folks like you can't provide one lie he told, and the link to back it up.

 

[Fraggle Rock]

Whoever started this thread if you need others to point out Trumps lies you are beyond help.

 

[What if...?]

No, the problem is that folks like you can't provide one lie he told, and the link to back it up.

I provided a link to the "table of lies".

 

[Somerville]

I'm beginning to think that the originator of this thread is being paid for the nonsense being posted. His responses are articulate, well-framed and a sterling example of the wordiness found in a defence attorney's presentation before a jury. Every possible amibiguity is emphasized and portrayed as yet another example of how some people are simply unable to appreciate the intelligence and frequent misunderstandings of the words of the ever so intelligent man who was elected president in 2016

 

[Rob Larrikin]

Allow me to tell you a little story. I watched a hypnotist once, making a point, using hypnosis as a metaphor. He got a volunteer from the audience. He hypnotized him. He implanted a suggestion to him:"Every time I touch my tie, you will scratch your head". And then he woke him up, without relinquishing the suggestion. After he was awake, he touched his tie, and on cue, the guy scratched his head. The hypnotist then told the guy about the suggestion, that his suggestion was why he scratched his head. the guy said, "oh, okay". Then, the hypnotist touched his tie again, and on cue, the guy scratched his head.

then the hypnotist asked the guy why he scratched his head. The guy then made up a story about why he was scratching, everything but the reason the hypnotist even admitted to. The point is, the hypnotized subject WILL NEVER ADMIT THE TRUTH, (because he under a hypnotic spell, he can't--the power of hypnotic suggestion is too strong) when when told why. Even when the horse is led to water, the horse refuses to drink. it proves you are hypnotized.

This story APPLIES TO YOU.

WAKE UP, SNAP OUT OF YOUR TRUMPIAN HYPNOSIS.

Now I will tell you a story. That stage hypnotist was fake. You can't hypnotize someone like that, on a stage, in front of an audience, in twenty seconds. I'm glad you enjoyed the show but the man picked out of the audience was an accomplice and the whole thing was rehearsed for your entertainment. Similarly, the entire Fake News network are accomplices of the Democratic Party, and you are being fed a constant stream of lies and propaganda by them. Wake up.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

"intended to deceive" eh?

Let's start with Trump's contention that Mueller is on a "witch hunt", which is something he has stated and said many times. There have been 20 indictments and "5 people pleading guilty". As such, the idea that it is a witch hunt is patently untrue (ridiculous) as they have found "many witches" that worked for him. Ergo, one of 2 things Trump is guilty of: 1) Lying or 2) Stupidity. Either way, it disqualifies him to be President as he is either trying to deceive or just plain incompetent.

Lets see you wiggle out of this one. Remember, 5 people pled GUILTY.

You are working hard to distract people from the point of this thread, to see if anyone can present one lie by Trump, along with a link and evidence. You haven't done this yet, but you have talked about many other things. Why don't you give the talking a rest and provide the lie?

 

[Rob Larrikin]

The mere fact that this discussion has gone on for 23 pages indicates a few truths: 1- there is extraordinary evidence at various sources of Trump's lies. These are easily found.

If someone has presented one lie by Trump in this thread, along with a link and evidence, please point to it, as I have not seen it and I have been all the way through the thread up to this point.

2- if someone bothered to copy and paste, say the New York Times documented list, it wouldn't affect or impress some Trump supporters, who seem incapable of doing research on his falsehoods or don't trust the evil, biased media.

There is a reason why one lie was requested in the OP. It is because one tactic the Left use when presenting misinformation of this kind, is to overwhelm the reader or viewer with information in the same way a shoplifter will get their accomplices to distract the shopkeeper with a disturbance while the shoplifter pockets the goods. Here are the two techniques side by side:

Sample one – a political forum.

Poster 1: Man made Global Warming is real.
Poster: 2: No it isn’t. Provide one bit of evidence.
Poster 1: Even better, here are a thousand charts, websites and speeches by Global Warmists.
Poster 2: Um, okay, thanks… [assumes volume indicates correctness and gives up].

Sample two – a shop

Shopper 1: Slinks off to the far end of shop
Shopper 2: Goes to the other side of shopkeeper
Shopkeeper: Can I help you?
Shopper 2: [Screams and causes loud accident, dropping stuff on floor, distracting shopkeeper]
Shopper 1: Leaves shop with goodies in pants.

To cancel out the Left winged poster’s trick of distraction, ask for ONE piece of evidence only. Just one. In Trump's case they can’t cope with that because his lies are as rare as hen’s teeth. I’m still looking for one myself. If someone disagrees with this by all means prove me wrong. Provide one real lie.

To cancel out the shoplifter’s trick of distraction, keep your eye out for accomplices. When you hear a loud distraction immediately look at their accomplice and you’ll see him or her stuffing something in their pants and heading for the door. Grab them.

 

[AlbqOwl]

That would be called lying.

Maybe. Or it could be just remembering wrong which is not the same thing as lying.

 

[AlbqOwl]

No, Strzok was not the leader of that "part" of the investigation, Mueller was and is. Strzok was a secondary person (to Mueller). Nothing in that office gets done without Mueller's approval. That is why Strzok was fired by Mueller before any of this was made public. Leaders don't fire themselves, they quit. Strzok was not the leader.

I am constantly amazed at how you Trumpians explain things away. Now using Obama and misspeaking about how many states he visited.

There is a big difference between that and Trump saying that Strzok is the leader of the FBI in the Trump investigation. When Trump says "he is the leader" (not a leader) you are putting a bullseye on Strzok and we know full well how Trump likes to put "bullseyes" on people he does not like. He has targeted many in that way. As such, it was not a "mistake" when he said he was "the leader". He knew full well that he was putting a bullseye on him incorrectly.

He blatantly liedl!

Christopher Wray himself said that Strzok was put in charge of that part of the investigation during yesterday's hearing with the House oversight committee. Are you calling him a liar too?

 

[AlbqOwl]

so far.. there have been multiple examples of such.

But nobody has been able to give me a verifiable accurate quotation of his actual words in context or give me a post number of anybody who did. So I'm still waiting. As is the OP.

 

[AlbqOwl]

Whoa their cowgirl. So when a investigator uncovers 5 people that have pled guilty and others that have been indicted by an independent grand jury.. ( I think this is 22 in total).. that constitutes a "witch hunt".?

that makes no sense whatsoever. He already has 5 guilty pleas and a number of people indicted by grand jury. thats anything but a witch hunt. He is uncovering wrong doing and following the investigation where it takes him.. not the other way around. and its led to guilty pleas..

When the purpose of the investigation is to find something, anything to hang the President that is a witch hunt. Except for Manafort, those who have been on Trump's team have all been charged with making false statements to the investigators and none of those false statements had anything to do with the campaign. So yes, it's a witch hunt.

 

[Kobie]

For a witch hunt, Mueller is finding an awful lot of witches.

 

[Kobie]

Maybe. Or it could be just remembering wrong which is not the same thing as lying.

Omg, STOP. Just excuse after excuse for blatant falsehoods. Pathetic.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I'm sure you're happy to keep making excuses and deflect the information presented to you from previous posters. Trump could state the moon is green and you'll make some type of excuse to avoid the fact frequently inaccurate, and since it's a pattern it makes it clear he does it with the intention to deceive. Recently there was that recording of a speech he made where he admitted he didn't know whether or not there was a trade deficit with Canada but he said it anyway:

So they had a 16 percent step up advantage on us, and they have for many years. And Mexico and Canada — and, by the way, Canada, they negotiate tougher than Mexico. Trudeau came to see me, he's a good guy, Justin. He said, no, no, we have no trade deficit with you, we have none. Donald, please. Nice guy, good-looking, comes in — Donald, we have no trade deficit — he was very proud, because everybody else you know were getting killed with our, so he's [unintelligible]. I said wrong, Justin, you do. I didn't even know. Josh, I had no idea. I just said, you're wrong. You know why? Because we're so stupid. [Unintelligible, laughter] And I thought they were smart.

Hmm...let me guess: this is a "negotiating tactic" or maybe his age got the best of him? Or perhaps he was thinking of that other country that sounds like Canada...Panama maybe? Who knows.


He wants people to accept what he says without question, and unfortunately there's never a shortage of volunteers willing to oblige. The comment he made about shooting someone on 5th Avenue and still having people like him should have confirmed this to anyone paying attention. Thanks for the mental gymnastics; it's been entertaining.

 

[OscarLevant]

Now I will tell you a story. That stage hypnotist was fake. You can't hypnotize someone like that, on a stage, in front of an audience, in twenty seconds. I'm glad you enjoyed the show but the man picked out of the audience was an accomplice and the whole thing was rehearsed for your entertainment. Similarly, the entire Fake News network are accomplices of the Democratic Party, and you are being fed a constant stream of lies and propaganda by them. Wake up.

No, you're the guy in the story who is rationalizing his hypnotic suggestion.

You've been hypnotized to call the truth fake.

You've been Trumped, and you dont even know it.

The work "fake" is a hypnotic implant.

The work "fake" is a hypnotic implant.

The work "fake" is a hypnotic implant

The work "fake" is a hypnotic implant.

The work "fake" is a hypnotic implant.

The work "fake" is a hypnotic implant.


SNAP OUT OF YOUR STUPOR