Just can’t help lying can you.
Let’s test its usefulness as a public safety metric.
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Which community has a larger problem with suicide?
Irrelevant hypothetical. Why are firearms the preferred method for American males for suicide?
Hmm just a couple of posts ago you said
Spock:Mental health services, while important, are unrealistic solutions to suicide
You just said that mental health treatment is unrealistic treatment!
It is an unrealistic cure in a situation where prevention is more important.
Should be instruct people not to inhale or should we restrict tobacco smoke and access?
You favor training depressed people not to use firearms and I advocate for reducing means. Do you also favor just counselling for individuals inclined to use firearms criminally or do you think reducing access to firearms might have some role?
You lose this argument..
Yeah and that’s so ridiculous that it’s astounding to me that you would even say that.
Seriously, in your bias against firearms it’s like you forget that all the other people who die by suicide without using a firearm.
Holy crap yes it will . If that mental health is effective it will prevent not only a firearm from being used but any other method
Very true. We all wish you understood that.
Who made that assumption? Certainly not me.
You are willing to accept "numbers of firearms in a population" as a measure of prevalence, with full knowledge that many, if not most, firearms are bought by people already have firearms. Bad science.
For example the measurement of firearm violence is completely useless.
No. Firearm violence is simple to measure. Just count the number of firearm deaths and injuries.
However your theory is that when confronted with scientific evidence you don’t like. You immediately dismiss it unless the accuracy of the data is 100 percent.
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The difficulty measuring firearm prevalence has been discussed extensively with you but you fail to understand the concept.
Do you even know the difference between incidence and prevalence?
Already cited a number of scientific research that shows firearm training reduces the chance of accidents.
Cripes . Do you hear yourself ?
So children now don’t have to be taught safety behaviors and responsibility because “ they know that accidents “ result from impulsive actions and bad judgement.”
So no need for sex education, drivers education, safe handling of tools in shop class,
Etc.
lmao.
You just said to use a firearm safely they need special skill.???
Lmao
Your reading problems seem to have continued.
I see , so sex education just teaches them to have unprotected sex.
Drug and alcohol counseling teaches them to drink and take drugs ,
Drivers education teaches them to drive recklessly !!
Are you know suggesting that firearm use requires special skill development? Get your arguments straight.
Fact is, discharging a firearm is easy but firearm skill is another issue.
There is no value to promoting firearms in schools when there are so many other areas of instruction needed.
You are promoting firearms with "mandatory firearm training". Drug, sex, alcohol education is about avoid primarily.
Which is what you have helped me do here.
Splendidly so I might add.
You seem unable to follow nuanced arguments. No surprise there.
You’ve now managed to argue that mental health treatment is ineffective in preventing or stopping suicide ideation and the best solution is to take away firearms from people who are not suicidal. !!! Lmao.
Are you arguing that mental health service it is always effective?
You’ve argued that firearm prevalence and the prevalence of sexuality in teens can’t be measured .
You’ve argued that firearm violence is a valid statistic but can’t answer a simple question about suicide or safety.
You’ve argued now that mandatory firearm training for hunters education , in schools or in private are unnecessary because all a person needs to know is that “ accidents are related to impulsive actions and bad judgement”.
Firearm violence is more an issue of bad judgment rather than accidental discharge of a firearm. Your interest is to promote firearm ownership and use when all the evidence supports the idea that firearm access increase death and injury.
