BirdinHand
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Chuckling at the use of “posers” although I’m sure that’s not the word meant to be used.
Chuckling at the use of “posers” although I’m sure that’s not the word meant to be used.To be sure posers here understand.
Your source - The Charlotte Lozier Institute is the 501(c)(3) research and education institute of Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, an organization dedicated to electing candidates and pursuing policies that will reduce and ultimately end abortion. (From the About Us page)New Study Shows Unborn Babies Feel Pain at 12 Weeks
New Study Shows Unborn Babies Feel Pain at 12 Weeks - Lozier Institute
“Science Again Points to the Humanity of the Unborn.” Washington, D.C. – A new study “Reconsidering Fetal Pain” confirms that babies in the womb can feel pain as early as 12 weeks old. Writing in the Journal of Medical Ethics, Stuart W.G. Derbyshire and John C. Bockmann state: “Overall, the...lozierinstitute.org
Dobbs says nothing of the kind. Suggest you stop reading the left-wing press. They’re lying to you.
I don’t think any level of government should be involved in the medical decisions between an adult and their doctor.
Period. Full stop.
From abortion to vaccines to end of life care.
With respect:
That elitist attitude isn't good. I'll leave it at that.
I’m strongly against ANY laws, mandates, etc that make medical decisions for adults. I’m also against mandating children TO have medical procedures.With respect:
Are you strongly against anti-abortion laws?
Yep.I wonder how many Americans really know what the ruling was?
I am will to bet that the protesters in Ny and CA, a good 80 plus percent of them think the courts ruling affects them.
I offer no apologies for what I am. None are needed.
I love a good reductio ad absurdum.OK.
Women aren't killing fetuses, they're just removing them from their bodies. It's nature that's killing them. It's not the woman's fault a fetus can't live outside her body.
I’m strongly against ANY laws, mandates, etc that make medical decisions for adults. I’m also against mandating children TO have medical procedures.
Your body, your choice. Period.
Yep.
All emotion. No reasoning.
I keep asking that very question. what's wrong with our manly men who shiver at the mere mention of having their rights and freedoms questioned, specifically guns and masks but applaud this latest SCOTUS decision?The SCOTUS decision essentially says that a day-old fetus has life/liberty interests sufficient to compel its "mother" to serve as an incubator for 9 months. Even though a young fetus has no mind, will, or feelings of its own, it can hypothetically become a person in the future, and that gives it a present interest which trumps a fully developed woman's right to control her body for nearly a year of her life (at minimum), whatever the consequences might be to her mind, career, finances, and future.
Can somebody please square that with the idea that the State cannot legitimately compel people to wear a thin piece of cloth over their noses and mouths for small periods of the day in public places, during a global pandemic in which a million Americans have been killed, in order to protect other fully grown human beings? Because it seems to me one infringement of liberty is in a completely different universe than the other.
It seems to me anybody who made even a peep about masks should be screaming their heads off over this decision. And the people who were screaming their heads off about masks, honestly, I don't know how you haven't gone into cardiac arrest over this.
I’ve answered plainly. I’m sorry you can’t or don’t want to understand and I’ve no control over nor do I care what you “believe”With respect:
I'd like a specific answer to my specific question. I find it hard to believe that you're against anti-abortion laws.
EASY-------To the GOP it seems that life begins at conception, but ends with mass shootings..............The SCOTUS decision essentially says that a day-old fetus has life/liberty interests sufficient to compel its "mother" to serve as an incubator for 9 months. Even though a young fetus has no mind, will, or feelings of its own, it can hypothetically become a person in the future, and that gives it a present interest which trumps a fully developed woman's right to control her body for nearly a year of her life (at minimum), whatever the consequences might be to her mind, career, finances, and future.
Can somebody please square that with the idea that the State cannot legitimately compel people to wear a thin piece of cloth over their noses and mouths for small periods of the day in public places, during a global pandemic in which a million Americans have been killed, in order to protect other fully grown human beings? Because it seems to me one infringement of liberty is in a completely different universe than the other.
It seems to me anybody who made even a peep about masks should be screaming their heads off over this decision. And the people who were screaming their heads off about masks, honestly, I don't know how you haven't gone into cardiac arrest over this.
I’ve answered plainly. I’m sorry you can’t or don’t want to understand and I’ve no control over nor do I care what you “believe”
Go right ahead. I’ve been plainly pro-choice and have stated so repeatedly.With respect:
You tried to answer indirectly. Why are you not willing to answer directly? Should I look at your comment history, especially in the abortion section?
I believe it was 2006Only recently science discovered baby's in the womb could feel pain, so there's that, and why are liberals such narcissist and think science is finished, we know all there is to know?
Like I said the science is never settledYour source - The Charlotte Lozier Institute is the 501(c)(3) research and education institute of Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, an organization dedicated to electing candidates and pursuing policies that will reduce and ultimately end abortion. (From the About Us page)
Fascists come for everyone eventually. Their time has been marked.It is easy. Conservatives only believe in their right to free choice when it comes to issues concerning theur lives. They have zero problem forcing their will on others, even when it doesn't affect them. However, take great umbridge when the perceive their freedom of choice compromised.
Is saving a woman’s life immoral?Again I ask. Is a late term abortion immoral?
I think there qill be, now. The death of Roe v Wade has made this very stark.I don’t know if there’s ever been enough support to have abortion enumerated.
The closest might have been under Obama? I’m trying to remember the balance of power in Congress under Clinton…but I don’t think it was there either.
Why are you avoiding this simple question? I am not talking about when the mother is in peril. Scenario is healthy mother healthy baby, but the mother wants a late term abortion. Is this late term abortion immoral?Is saving a woman from death or irreparable damage to her body immoral ?
Government was involved in the decision to abort (Roe v Wade). The only thing changed is its tack from liberty to authoritarian.I wouldn’t call it a slippery slope fallacy considering it’s reality in this moment
And very possibly May go further into birth control, etc.
I’d say that slippery slope is a gigantic water slide.
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