California Democrat Progressives Roll Up Sleeves To Help Their President Liberate The Supply Chain To Help Poor

[Eatomus]

You got to hand it to the democrat progressives, when it comes to the current distribution issues in the supply chain, they know how to get the goods .
Your voters obviously love you very much Mr. President .

 

[venice_ca]

SP slashed security personnel

The linked LA Times article details SP’s drastic cuts to its security force personnel — six persons for the area from Los Angeles to Yuma — and the requests that Los Angeles law enforcement had made to SP to help secure the area. Also, BNSF has not experienced an increase of thefts similar to SP.

Maybe SP should examine how BNSF secures its yards, and the number of security personnel used. Maybe the slashes in SP’s security has a lot to do with the increase. Crazy idea, no?

 

[Schism]

SP slashed security personnel

The linked LA Times article details SP’s drastic cuts to its security force personnel — six persons for the area from Los Angeles to Yuma — and the requests that Los Angeles law enforcement had made to SP to help secure the area. Also, BNSF has not experienced an increase of thefts similar to SP.

Maybe SP should examine how BNSF secures its yards, and the number of security personnel used. Maybe the slashes in SP’s security has a lot to do with the increase. Crazy idea, no?

So your solution is private security? Will they be armed? Have powers to arrest?

Is deadly force authorized to protect these private contractors who stand between criminals and millions of dollars of our supply chain?

 

[Glitch]

SP slashed security personnel

The linked LA Times article details SP’s drastic cuts to its security force personnel — six persons for the area from Los Angeles to Yuma — and the requests that Los Angeles law enforcement had made to SP to help secure the area. Also, BNSF has not experienced an increase of thefts similar to SP.

Maybe SP should examine how BNSF secures its yards, and the number of security personnel used. Maybe the slashes in SP’s security has a lot to do with the increase. Crazy idea, no?

You mean the progressive mantra of defunding and abolishing the police actually leads to more crime?!?!?!?

Who would have that was possible?

 

[Schism]

You got to hand it to the democrat progressives, when it comes to the current distribution issues in the supply chain, they know how to get the goods .
Your voters obviously love you very much Mr. President .
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According to AOC, they just want some bread for their families.

Was any bread stolen, or was it just electronic devices and Amazon packages?

 

[Grandpappy]

This unusual phenomena is just another manifestation of failed socialist policies. It won't end till the commie bastards are voted out.

 

[BlueTex]

So your solution is private security? Will they be armed? Have powers to arrest?

Is deadly force authorized to protect these private contractors who stand between criminals and millions of dollars of our supply chain?

Union Pacific Special Agents ARE private security, they are paid by Union Pacific...

 

[BlueTex]

You mean the progressive mantra of defunding and abolishing the police actually leads to more crime?!?!?!?

Who would have that was possible?

LMAO... And when it's CORPORATE security with police powers we see how they cut funding in a heartbeat to maintain profit margins.. Who has primary jurisdiction on railways?

 

[Schism]

Union Pacific Special Agents ARE private security, they are paid by Union Pacific...

Yeah? What are they allowed to do, yell "Stop stealing that" and "Hey, don't cut that lock off"?

 

[BlueTex]

Yeah? What are they allowed to do, yell "Stop stealing that" and "Hey, don't cut that lock off"?

They have full police powers...

Union Pacific Special Agents & Police Dispatch

The Union Pacific Police Department Special Agents have have primary jurisdiction over crimes committed against the railroad. The department is responsible for all Union Pacific locations across 32,000 miles of track in 23 states. Its success has served as a model for national crime management...

www.up.com

 

[roguenuke]

Yeah? What are they allowed to do, yell "Stop stealing that" and "Hey, don't cut that lock off"?

No, they are certified law enforcement officers. They are just privately employed.

Union Pacific Special Agents & Police Dispatch

The Union Pacific Police Department Special Agents have have primary jurisdiction over crimes committed against the railroad. The department is responsible for all Union Pacific locations across 32,000 miles of track in 23 states. Its success has served as a model for national crime management...

www.up.com

They can make arrests.

 

[Glitch]

LMAO... And when it's CORPORATE security with police powers we see how they cut funding in a heartbeat to maintain profit margins.. Who has primary jurisdiction on railways?

Except that they don't have police powers. Only the police have police powers.

In this case, since they are only being robbed in Los Angeles, the jurisdiction falls to Los Angeles. The railroads are a business, and the fact that they have to hire their own private security speaks volumes to the failure of the progressives and their pro-crime agenda in Los Angeles.

 

[BlueTex]

Except that they don't have police powers. Only the police have police powers.

In this case, since they are only being robbed in Los Angeles, the jurisdiction falls to Los Angeles. The railroads are a business, and the fact that they have to hire their own private sector speaks volumes to the failure of the progressives and their pro-crime agenda in Los Angeles.

Complete bullshit... They have FULL police powers and are certified law enforcement by the state just like EVERY other police department...

Union Pacific Special Agents & Police Dispatch

The Union Pacific Police Department Special Agents have have primary jurisdiction over crimes committed against the railroad. The department is responsible for all Union Pacific locations across 32,000 miles of track in 23 states. Its success has served as a model for national crime management...

www.up.com

 

[Glitch]

No, they are certified law enforcement officers. They are just privately employed.

Union Pacific Special Agents & Police Dispatch

The Union Pacific Police Department Special Agents have have primary jurisdiction over crimes committed against the railroad. The department is responsible for all Union Pacific locations across 32,000 miles of track in 23 states. Its success has served as a model for national crime management...

www.up.com

They can make arrests.

Anyone can make arrests, that doesn't grant them police powers. The police is part of government and have special powers because of that. The railroad COPs are not part of government and therefore cannot have police powers. That is something only government has. You cannot be charged, for example, with resisting arrest if you resist against being arrested by a railroad COP. Railroad COPs also do not have qualified immunity. Which means they can be personally sued if they wrongfully arrest someone.

 

[roguenuke]

Anyone can make arrests, that doesn't grant them police powers. The police is part of government and have special powers because of that. The railroad COPs are not part of government and therefore cannot have police powers. That is something only government has. You cannot be charged, for example, with resisting arrest if you resist against being arrested by a railroad COP. Railroad COPs also do not have qualified immunity. Which means they can be personally sued if they wrongfully arrest someone.

They are certified law enforcement officers.

And citizens arrests are controlled by very specific laws and not allowed everywhere, and only for certain crimes/situations.

 

[Glitch]

They are certified law enforcement officers.

That do not work for government. You do comprehend that it is government that possesses the actual police powers, and not private businesses, right?

And citizens arrests are controlled by very specific laws and not allowed everywhere, and only for certain crimes/situations.

All arrests, whether done by civilian security or government employed police, are controlled by very specific laws. Once again, arrests have nothing to do with police powers.

 

[Grandpappy]

They may be able to make arrests, but with that deluded idiot they call a DA in LA county, they'll just get released 30 minutes after being booked. What effing difference does it make?

 

[danielpalos]

Hopefully, all those infrastructure jobs will get going and everyone who wants to work may be able to get a prevailing wage job.

 

[Mustachio]

This unusual phenomena is just another manifestation of failed socialist policies. It won't end till the commie bastards are voted out.

And every time I tell you that oakland, california is factually just as safe or safer in every regard than extremely conservative tulsa or oklahoma city you will not care. It's the libs because it's the libs. Why is it their fault? Because it's their fault. How do you know? You know because you knew. You're like, god or something

 

[roguenuke]

That do not work for government. You do comprehend that it is government that possesses the actual police powers, and not private businesses, right?


All arrests, whether done by civilian security or government employed police, are controlled by very specific laws. Once again, arrests have nothing to do with police powers.

Except they are given investigative powers, and are given jurisdiction. They have police powers. It was linked for you.

They are also not the only law enforcement entities in the US that are privately paid, not paid by government.

San Francisco Patrol Special Police - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Craig234]

The linked LA Times article details SP’s drastic cuts to its security force personnel — six persons for the area from Los Angeles to Yuma — and the requests that Los Angeles law enforcement had made to SP to help secure the area. Also, BNSF has not experienced an increase of thefts similar to SP.

Republicans refuse requests to increase embassy security in Benghazi. Enemies storm embassy and kill ambassador. Republicans blame Hillary.

Republicans slash IRS auditing of high income tax returns. Tax fraud of high incomes skyrockets, costing the American people hundreds of billions.

I had another example I forgot, maybe someone can add more.

See the pattern?

 

[Michael Cole]

looks like this op failed spectacularly

 

[Glitch]

Except they are given investigative powers, and are given jurisdiction. They have police powers. It was linked for you.

They are also not the only law enforcement entities in the US that are privately paid, not paid by government.

San Francisco Patrol Special Police - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

What are "investigative powers?" Only the government has powers and jurisdictions, not private businesses.

I'm very well aware of the private security industry. They also do not have police powers, and no amount of certification can grant police powers. Police powers can only come from government. Government has an exclusive monopoly on all police powers.

 

[roguenuke]

What are "investigative powers?" Only the government has powers and jurisdictions, not private businesses.

I'm very well aware of the private security industry. They also do not have police powers, and no amount of certification can grant police powers. Police powers can only come from government. Government has an exclusive monopoly on all police powers.

The government grants investigative powers to certain private citizens, individuals. Never heard of a private investigator? They do not generally have the arresting powers of law enforcement though and no "jurisdiction".

Government can grant out police powers to private businesses. There have been shown two such instances in this thread.

 

[JustAFella]

So your solution is private security? Will they be armed? Have powers to arrest?

Is deadly force authorized to protect these private contractors who stand between criminals and millions of dollars of our supply chain?

Your supply chain? You have millions of ****all.