Bush's Admin is a slur on all U.S citizens

[Middleground]

A) Try again...

B) Western Europe gets more oil from Saudi Arabia than us...

This leads to the question...Why isn't Western Europe doing more since their stakes are higher?...

A) Because they know that we'll end up doing their dirty work...as always...while they can sit on their pedestals telling us how evil and arrogant we are...

:shrug:

I believe that the US gets the highest % of it's oil from Canada. I think that Mexico and Velenzuela are not that far behind.

If I remember correctly, the US get roughly 20-25% of it's oil from Middle Eastern countries (Kuwait, UEA, Saudi Arabia, et al).

 

[cnredd]

I believe that the US gets the highest % of it's oil from Canada. I think that Mexico and Velenzuela are not that far behind.

If I remember correctly, the US get roughly 20-25% of it's oil from Middle Eastern countries (Kuwait, UEA, Saudi Arabia, et al).

You did his work for him...

You get a gold star...:2wave:

 

[KCConservative]

I believe that the US gets the highest % of it's oil from Canada. I think that Mexico and Velenzuela are not that far behind.

If I remember correctly, the US get roughly 20-25% of it's oil from Middle Eastern countries (Kuwait, UEA, Saudi Arabia, et al).

20% is too high. The last report I heard was 11%. Now who thinks this is a war for oil?

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by KCConservative:
20% is too high. The last report I heard was 11%. Now who thinks this is a war for oil?

Brazil drives on what they grow. A renewable energy source. I don't know why we can't do the same thing here.

 

[KCConservative]

Brazil drives on what they grow. A renewable energy source. I don't know why we can't do the same thing here.

Agreed. That would be awsome.

 

[Middleground]

20% is too high. The last report I heard was 11%. Now who thinks this is a war for oil?

I'd like to see that report. No, wait, it does not exist. Why? Because you blew that number out of your a$$, which is not surprising. Why is it more important for you to be "right," rather than factual? I will never understand it.

Now if you want to see the real numbers, check out this link. So KCC, for once, why don't you take a gander and see for yourself? Or is it to difficult to click on a link and see the TRUTH for yourself?

http://www.afa.org/magazine/June2002/0602chart.pdf

BTW, the number imported from the Middle East is 23%. That said, the US still gets a little less than half from the Americas.

 

[128shot]

you all assumed I pledged this war to be about oil?



where did I say this?



and why the hell are we using oil yet in the first place?



And we're still importing oil, so that tells me that as other countries supplies dwindle the middle east will become more and more of a place to import our oil from.


and I think 23% is still alot, during the 1970s crisis, oil production only dropped 5% if I remember correctly.

 

[RightinNYC]

You are obviously joking or else you have no contact with the real world. Yes, unemployment may be down but so are "real wages". The amount that the average American family brings home has declined significantly over the last 6 years

Lie.

1992 257.95 -0.15%
1993 258.12 0.07%
1994 259.97 0.72%
1995 258.43 -0.59%
1996 259.58 0.44%
1997 265.22 2.17%
1998 271.87 2.51%
1999 274.64 1.02%
2000 275.62 0.36%
2001 275.38 -0.09%
2002 278.91 1.28%
2003 279.94 0.37%
2004 277.57 -0.84%

http://www.laborresearch.org/charts.php?id=8

Good try though.

 

[KCConservative]

I'd like to see that report. No, wait, it does not exist. Why? Because you blew that number out of your a$$, which is not surprising. Why is it more important for you to be "right," rather than factual? I will never understand it.

Now if you want to see the real numbers, check out this link. So KCC, for once, why don't you take a gander and see for yourself? Or is it to difficult to click on a link and see the TRUTH for yourself?

http://www.afa.org/magazine/June2002/0602chart.pdf

BTW, the number imported from the Middle East is 23%. That said, the US still gets a little less than half from the Americas.

Dearest Middleground: Is that link from 2002 really what you want us to read? :laughat: Keep looking, dear.

By the way, does your mother know you talk like that?

 

[Middleground]

Dearest Middleground: Is that link from 2002 really what you want us to read? :laughat: Keep looking, dear.

By the way, does your mother know you talk like that?

My dearest, sweetest and most skeptical, KCC, thanks for pointing out that 2002 was eons ago. After all, it's a little more than three years and so much has changed. :roll:

So why don't you take a gander at the latest I found, so you can ignore the data and come up with some other excuse why it's not valid. Since you did not even try to produce a link with your claim of 11% of ME imports, that's not important, right? After all, Rush told you so, and gosh-golly-geeze-darn, it MUST be factual.

So here you go. Ignore and your own close-minded peril. When one has the motto that it's better to be right than informed, the world must seem so much better, don't ya think?

And BTW, mom always told me to call a spade a spade. She's very proud.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/txt/ptb0504.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/...ons/company_level_imports/current/import.html

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by Middleground:
And BTW, mom always told me to call a spade a spade. She's very proud.

That's what I do. However, there are many poster's here (KCC is one of them) that would rather have me call it a heart, diamond or a club. But it ain't gonna happen. Just keep calling it as you see it. That's the only way to be.

 

[KCConservative]

My dearest, sweetest and most skeptical, KCC, thanks for pointing out that 2002 was eons ago. After all, it's a little more than three years and so much has changed. :roll:

So why don't you take a gander at the latest I found, so you can ignore the data and come up with some other excuse why it's not valid. Since you did not even try to produce a link with your claim of 11% of ME imports, that's not important, right? After all, Rush told you so, and gosh-golly-geeze-darn, it MUST be factual.

So here you go. Ignore and your own close-minded peril. When one has the motto that it's better to be right than informed, the world must seem so much better, don't ya think?

And BTW, mom always told me to call a spade a spade. She's very proud.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/txt/ptb0504.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/...ons/company_level_imports/current/import.html

Great link. 11,000 from Iraq and 64,000 from Canada. Hey, it looks like Bush picked the wrong country to fight a war for oil. :lol: Good work.

From one of the other links you provided.

"Canada was the largest exporter of total petroleum products again this month averaging 2.311 million barrels per day to the United States which is a decrease from last month (2.523 million barrels per day). The second largest exporter of total petroleum products so far this year was Mexico (1.796 million barrels per day) which exported almost the same amount to the United States as last month. Algeria had a substantial increase in exports (0.308 million barrels per day of total petroleum products when compared to last months numbers) to the U.S. in January."

So tell us more about that war for oil in Iraq.

 

[Middleground]

Great link. 11,000 from Iraq and 64,000 from Canada. Hey, it looks like Bush picked the wrong country to fight a war for oil. :lol: Good work.

From one of the other links you provided.

"Canada was the largest exporter of total petroleum products again this month averaging 2.311 million barrels per day to the United States which is a decrease from last month (2.523 million barrels per day). The second largest exporter of total petroleum products so far this year was Mexico (1.796 million barrels per day) which exported almost the same amount to the United States as last month. Algeria had a substantial increase in exports (0.308 million barrels per day of total petroleum products when compared to last months numbers) to the U.S. in January."

So tell us more about that war for oil in Iraq.

First of all, thanks so much for taking precious time to actually open and read the provided links. It's a big step my friend, so a big kudos to you.

That said, there is still some work to do. Not that I'm faulting you, for really, one does not change overnight. Baby steps, right?

Now let me cut to the chase. Your answer really baffles me. Where did you get the sense that I think that whole Iraq war is about oil? I've re-read my posts -- just to be competely sure -- and did not even see anything close to what you're alluding to. Furthermore, I stated from the very start that Canada was the leading supplier of oil to the US:

I believe that the US gets the highest % of it's oil from Canada. I think that Mexico and Velenzuela are not that far behind.

If I remember correctly, the US get roughly 20-25% of it's oil from Middle Eastern countries (Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, et al).

So, the disagreement we seem to have is that you think that the US gets no more than 11% from Middle Eastern Countries. Below is what you wrote, after quoting my original post (see above):

20% is too high. The last report I heard was 11%. Now who thinks this is a war for oil?

Let me add that you attempted at no time to provide any links to back-up your "facts." This is why I think you blew that number out of your a$$.

Another reason that I think you blew that number out of your a$$, is because the data backs-up my original claim. So let me break it down for you, as best I can. In the second link I provided, you will see it broken down into %'s. Under the column "Imports From Persian Gulf Nations (Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates) as Share of Total Imports" these are the numbers... I will only input the last 5 years:

2000: 21.7
2001: 23.3
2002:19.7
2003: 20.4
2004: 19.3

Now tell me, who is closer?

Me: 20-25%
or
You: 11%

It don't take no math whiz to figure that out, eh?

 

[KCConservative]

Where did you get the sense that I think that whole Iraq war is about oil? I've re-read my posts -- just to be competely sure -- and did not even see anything close to what you're alluding to. Furthermore, I stated from the very start that Canada was the leading supplier of oil to the US

It appears, then, that we agree. So why all the rude comments on "baby steps" and so on or the crude remarks of "blowing it out...." ? If we are on the same page, why be so oppositional?

 

[Middleground]

It appears, then, that we agree. So why all the rude comments on "baby steps" and so on or the crude remarks of "blowing it out...." ? If we are on the same page, why be so oppositional?

LOL, this post truly made me laugh. You are quite a source for entertainment, KCC.

So let me end this by getting an answer to the question that I've been asking post after post. Are you prepared to state that you answer of 11% imports from Middle-Eastern countries is actually false? Or are you going to spin it once again and say that I'm being confrontational, LOL?

It's not that we are on the same page. After all, we are looking at actual data, which does not lead to ANYTHING that's of opinion.

 

[KCConservative]

LOL, this post truly made me laugh. You are quite a source for entertainment, KCC.

So let me end this by getting an answer to the question that I've been asking post after post. Are you prepared to state that you answer of 11% imports from Middle-Eastern countries is actually false? Or are you going to spin it once again and say that I'm being confrontational, LOL?

It's not that we are on the same page. After all, we are looking at actual data, which does not lead to ANYTHING that's of opinion.

Go back to the post where I mentioned 11%. Read it carefully. As for all the rest of your snotty and hateful posts, yes I'd call it confrontational.

 

[Middleground]

Go back to the post where I mentioned 11%. Read it carefully. As for all the rest of your snotty and hateful posts, yes I'd call it confrontational.

My quote:
If I remember correctly, the US get roughly 20-25% of it's oil from Middle Eastern countries (Kuwait, UEA, Saudi Arabia, et al).

Your post:
20% is too high. The last report I heard was 11%. Now who thinks this is a war for oil?

LOL, prey tell, what am I missing?

Where did you get the 11%, and based-on the data that I've provided, is it accurate? Now answer my question and stop spinning. Pretty soon, I'll have to start calling you Sasha Cohn.

 

[RightinNYC]

My quote:
If I remember correctly, the US get roughly 20-25% of it's oil from Middle Eastern countries (Kuwait, UEA, Saudi Arabia, et al).

Your post:
20% is too high. The last report I heard was 11%. Now who thinks this is a war for oil?

LOL, prey tell, what am I missing?

Where did you get the 11%, and based-on the data that I've provided, is it accurate? Now answer my question and stop spinning. Pretty soon, I'll have to start calling you Sasha Cohn.

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