Bush says terrorists 'are coming again'

[akyron]

I don't disagree at all. This financial backing that AQ recieves from our "allies" needs to be stopped, immediately.

I agree, killing him would be a bad call because for some that would be martydom - 72 virgins and all
he needs to be de-canonized.

I got nothin. I cannot argue when you agree with me. :3oops:

 

[Saboteur]

Time for more fear mongering, folks. Bush is holding a news conference at this time, and is fighting the Senate for the right to torture, and to ignore the Geneva conventions. What is he using to justify this? An argument that terrorists will strike the United States again. Spoken like a true Machiavellian Communist.

Article is here.

Well since he's in bed with the Saudis (which are where most terrorists come from) and especially the Bin Laden family... He ought to know.

I predicted a long time ago to some friends that there would be another attack will be 'allowed' to happen in the U.S. in the 3rd year of Bush's 2nd term.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Well the terrorists say that they're coming again too:

Al-Qaida warns Muslims: Time to get out of U.S.

Afghan terror commander hints at big attack on N.Y., Washington


Posted: September 17, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

The new al-Qaida field commander in Afghanistan is calling for Muslims to leave the U.S. – particularly Washington and New York – in anticipation of a major terror attack to rival Sept. 11, according to an interview by a Pakistani journalist.

Abu Dawood told Hamid Mir, a reporter who has covered al-Qaida and met with Osama bin Laden, the attack is being coordinated by Adnan el-Shukrijumah and suggests it may involve some form of weapon of mass destruction smuggled across the Mexican border.

"Our brothers are ready to attack inside America. We will breach their security again," he is quoted as saying. "There is no timeframe for our attack inside America; we can do it any time."

As WND has previously reported, el-Shukrijumah is a trained nuclear technician and accomplished pilot who has been singled out by bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri to serve as the field commander for the next terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

The terrorist was last seen in Mexico, where, on Nov. 1, 2004, he allegedly hijacked a Piper PA Pawnee cropduster from Ejido Queretaro near Mexicali to transport a nuclear weapon and nuclear equipment into the U.S., according to Paul Williams, a former FBI consultant and author of "The Dunces of Doomsday."

"I am saying that Muslims must leave America, but we can attack America anytime," he said. "Our cycle of warnings has been completed, now we have fresh edicts from some prominent Muslim scholars to destroy our enemy, this is our defending of Jihad; the enemy has entered in our homes and we have the right to enter in their homes, they are killing us, we will kill them."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52018

 

[mixedmedia]

Well the terrorists say that they're coming again too:

Are any other news sources covering this story?

 

[MSgt]

It doesn't take Bush or the idiot Radical to declare that which we should already know.

This is a determined enemy and they fight for "God." They believe that their reward is in the after life, therefore they have no fear of doing what ever they deem necessary to "win."

We will see terrorist violence within our shores again. This is the generational war we are in.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Are any other news sources covering this story?

Next Attack Imminent:
Muslims ordered to leave the United States

By Paul L. Williams

& David Dastych
Saturday, September 16, 2006

Urgent news from Abu Dawood, one of the newly appointed commanders of the al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan:

Final preparations have been made for the American Hiroshima, a major attack on the U. S.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/paul-williams091606.htm

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[Captain America]

The terrorists are coming again? Was there ever any doubt?

I used to cringe, and still do, when the Bush apologists would proclaim, "There hasn't been a single attack on American soil since President Bush started his "War on Terrorism." That's just bad ju-ju to say something like thatand I'm not even superstitious. When it does happen, they are gonna have a lot of egg to wipe off their faces.

The reason there hasn't been an attack is because they have not initiated their attack. Outside it being a slightly more difficult task to do post 9/11, Bush has little to do the fact that they haven't attacked yet in my opinion. They answer to their own time lines.

 

[talloulou]

The reason there hasn't been an attack is because they have not initiated their attack. Outside it being a slightly more difficult task to do post 9/11, Bush has little to do the fact that they haven't attacked yet in my opinion. They answer to their own time lines.

I agree that they will continue to try and attack and most likely eventually they will to some degree be successful. However the idea that they have yet to initiate any attacks that were subsequently thwarted by us or governments abroad is false and undermines the hard work people are doing worldwide to keep terrorists at bay.

 

[Captain America]

I agree that they will continue to try and attack and most likely eventually they will to some degree be successful. However the idea that they have yet to initiate any attacks that were subsequently thwarted by us or governments abroad is false and undermines the hard work people are doing worldwide to keep terrorists at bay.

Good point Tally and I conceed to that logic. I guess what I am really trying to get across is that if they want to attack us, there ain't a goddam thing we can really do about it. It's just too damn easy to do.

And all the folks crediting Bush for the lull in their attacks are gonna feel pretty stupid when they do decide to go for broke.

Sure, we might divert an attack or two. No doubt. But the false illusion that we are all safe and warm because of Bush's little war is a dangerous misconception.

Since there appear to be more of them today than ever before, their odds of success are only getting better for them.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Since there appear to be more of them today than ever before, their odds of success are only getting better for them.

Actually the war has just shined a spotlight on an enemy that already existed but hid in the darkness.

 

[Captain America]

Actually the war has just shined a spotlight on an enemy that already existed but hid in the darkness.

Yeah. Like cockroaches.

Time to call the Terminex/Orkin man.:mrgreen:

 

[Iriemon]

Yeah. Like cockroaches.

Time to call the Terminex/Orkin man.:mrgreen:

Isn't he that guy that says he'll get 'em dead or alive?

 

[ProudAmerican]

Actually the war has just shined a spotlight on an enemy that already existed but hid in the darkness.

ABSOLUTELY.

the ridiculous notion that these people were just good ole law abiding citizens, working hard to raise a family and put food on the table by working 9 to 5, and running the kids to soccer practice.......and then decided overnight to become jihadists because the evil satan invaded Iraq is just that......

RIDICULOUS.

 

[Iriemon]

ABSOLUTELY.

the ridiculous notion that these people were just good ole law abiding citizens, working hard to raise a family and put food on the table by working 9 to 5, and running the kids to soccer practice.......and then decided overnight to become jihadists because the evil satan invaded Iraq is just that......

RIDICULOUS.

If some foreign nation invaded my country based on false reasons, bombed the hell out of it, occupied it, destroyed my house, killed my daughter -- yeah I'd become a "jihadist". But I guess that seems ridiculous to you.

But there is something I don't get. The Govt said there were maybe 5000, maybe 10,000 terrorists in Iraq years ago. Since then I'm sure they have killed and captured far more than that number.

Did our government mis-inform us as to the number of terrorists?

Was our government wrong about the number of terrorists?

Or after 3 1/2 years of occupations, are the borders still so unsecured that tens of thousands more terrorists are pouring in?

 

[70s_guy]

Let us not be fools. That recent statement of scare from Afghanistan may or may not have any reality but long term the threats are real. There are many US corporate and business interests like the travel industries, illegal immigrant rights groups, and politicians, that benefit from calming down Americans from their post 9/11 fears. Thus they are quick to rationalize reasons why we are doing fine and ought not worry or get excited. That plays right into the terrorists strategy by preventing us from blocking them before they are capable of attacking us again. The 9/11 attacks are miniscule compared to what weapons of mass destruction can potentially do. Those security experts here in the USA that have brainstormed our vulnerabilities know how serious the situation is. There are more absolutely horendous scenarios possible than the public and media have discussed because of national security and in order not to frighten the ignorant. One scenario that has been discussed although not recently for political reasons, a single dispersal of dirty bomb long half-life radioactivity or weapons grade anthrax could result in absolute abandonment of one of our large urban areas for decades. That is a primary reason it is so important for us to get serious control of our borders. David

 

[akyron]

-- yeah I'd become a "jihadist". But I guess that seems ridiculous to you.

Pope quotes Qur'an; Muslims kill nun, burn churches

Muslims bomb, burn, shoot and threaten



"Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul," -Pope Benedict


I see where you are coming from.
Many of these people are not coming from there.
They are seeking nothing but an excuse to riot in the streets.
Be it proven accurate cartoons, a false news story of Charminic Korans, or a misquoted pope.



Asking for peace and being met with violence is beyond ironic and does indeed step into the realm of the ridiculous.


Muslim cartoon fury claims lives



And on the opposite end of the irony.

German Who Created Koran Toilet Paper Convicted

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

If some foreign nation invaded my country based on false reasons, bombed the hell out of it, occupied it, destroyed my house, killed my daughter -- yeah I'd become a "jihadist". But I guess that seems ridiculous to you.

lmfao 'cept for the fact that it's the Jihadis doing the killing of innocent men, women, and children.

But there is something I don't get. The Govt said there were maybe 5000, maybe 10,000 terrorists in Iraq years ago.

What did they take a poll?

"Excuse me sir do you work for AQ?"

Since then I'm sure they have killed and captured far more than that number.

Did our government mis-inform us as to the number of terrorists?

I don't see how anyone could correctly inform you as to the number of Islamic fascists that are out there.

Was our government wrong about the number of terrorists?

A) I don't see how they could be right.

B) You give a before number but not an after number so your argument doesn't really make any damn sense.

Or after 3 1/2 years of occupations, are the borders still so unsecured that tens of thousands more terrorists are pouring in?

Good let them come it's not like if they weren't in Iraq that they wouldn't be going after the U.S. in some other way or they would be productive upstanding citizens; atleast over there in Iraq our soldiers have a chance to kill them back unlike what happens when they attack our civilian population over here.

 

[Iriemon]

Did our government mis-inform us as to the number of terrorists?

I don't see how anyone could correctly inform you as to the number of Islamic fascists are out there.

Quote:
Was our government wrong about the number of terrorists?

A) I don't see how they could be right.

The one thing we agree on. More evidence our govt/military has no clue as to what is going on and another example of what they tell us is unfortunately not worthy of belief.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The one thing we agree on. More evidence our govt/military has no clue as to what is going on and another example of what they tell us is unfortunately not worthy of belief.

What does it matter what the exact number is? The fact of the matter is that there's a whole hell of a lot of them and they are intent on attacking us again.

And regardless I'm not the one that's claiming that our actions are creating terrorists you and Jfuh made that claim which is a claim that can't be proven or disproven.

 

[Iriemon]

What does it matter what the exact number is? The fact of the matter is that there's a whole hell of a lot of them and they are intent on attacking us again.

If our Govt/military doesn't have a clue about what the situation is it does not IMO bode well for relying on them to be able to successfully resolve the situation in Iraq, or fight the "war" on terror for that matter.

And regardless I'm not the one that's claiming that our actions are creating terrorists you and Jfuh made that claim which is a claim that can't be proven or disproven.

If a number of terrorists were caught trying to get into Iraq and they became terrorists because of our actions that would be some proof.

The fact that the terrorists don't seem to be focusing on China, which has far more infidels that we do, is some proof.

 

[danarhea]

ABSOLUTELY.

the ridiculous notion that these people were just good ole law abiding citizens, working hard to raise a family and put food on the table by working 9 to 5, and running the kids to soccer practice.......and then decided overnight to become jihadists because the evil satan invaded Iraq is just that......

RIDICULOUS.

Interesting that more than 14,000 so-called terrorists have been released after being imprisoned without a trial. Turns out they were innocent, but that did not stop them from having their liberty taken from them. We are becoming what we have fought against for more than 200 years.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

If our Govt/military doesn't have a clue about what the situation is it does not IMO bode well for relying on them to be able to successfully resolve the situation in Iraq, or fight the "war" on terror for that matter.

Tell me how exactly would you go about obtaining that information? This war isn't going to be won by killing every single Jihadi the only way to win it is by denying them safe haven, cutting off their funding, and encouraging Democratic reform in the Middle East either with diplomacy or if need be through military action.

If a number of terrorists were caught trying to get into Iraq and they became terrorists because of our actions that would be some proof.

So what were they before they came into Iraq upstanding citizens of their country of origin who loved America?

The fact that the terrorists don't seem to be focusing on China, which has far more infidels that we do, is some proof.

China is a police state first of all second of all who says that their isn't a Islamic-fascist problem in China?

Jihad in China

More evidence of the global reach of the tiny minority of extremists: "China released a wanted list of Muslim separatist groups and individuals on Monday, accusing them of acts of terror and appealing to foreign governments to ban the groups and track down and hand over the wanted individuals."

"One day after the United States announced the capture of toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, China's ministry of public security fingered four groups in the restive north-west and 11 ethnic Uighur suspects, all of whom remain at large.

"'They have planned, organised and carried out a series of violent terrorist activities such as bombings, assassinations, arsons, poisonings and attacks,' Zhao Yongchen, deputy chief of the ministry's anti-terror bureau, said in a statement.


http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000424.php

Al Qaeda’s Passage to China

Exclusively from DEBKA-Net-Weekly 230

December 6, 2005, 10:26 PM (GMT+02:00)


In mid-September, Al Qaeda diverted a small but potent force from Iraq to a new mission: the opening of a new front in China. The unit was smuggled into the Chinese border town of Kushi in the Xinjiang Uygur province in November, after a meandering journey traced by DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s counter-terror sources. There, the terrorists were quickly absorbed by the al Qaeda infrastructure of local Uygur Muslim extremist cells.

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1118

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Interesting that more than 14,000 so-called terrorists have been released after being imprisoned without a trial. Turns out they were innocent, but that did not stop them from having their liberty taken from them. We are becoming what we have fought against for more than 200 years.

They were given Habeas Corpus in order to determine if their detention was justified in accordance with the Hamdi decision; that actually doesn't bode well for your case that we're just going around rounding up innocent Muslims and locking them up and throwing away the key.

 

[danarhea]

They were given Habeas Corpus in order to determine if their detention was justified in accordance with the Hamdi decision; that actually doesn't bode well for your case that we're just going around rounding up innocent Muslims and locking them up and throwing away the key.

Ahem. When was the Hamdi case decided? You are telling me that we gave them all habeus corpus BEFORE that decision?????

Ummmm. OK, whatever you say. :roll:

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

Ahem. When was the Hamdi case decided? You are telling me that we gave them all habeus corpus BEFORE that decision?????

Ummmm. OK, whatever you say. :roll:

Again are you suggesting that we charge the President ex-post facto? It seems that you are the one who has a disdain for the Constitution.

All detainees currently being held are entitled to Habeas Corpus in full compliance with the Hamdi decision.