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Brokeback Mountain

Will you go see Brokeback Mountain

  • Absolutely.

    Votes: 23 25.8%
  • Only when it comes out in video/DVD.

    Votes: 22 24.7%
  • No friggen way.

    Votes: 31 34.8%
  • I'd rather watch Fahrenheit 9-11

    Votes: 13 14.6%

  • Total voters
    89
Navy Pride said:
I know the values of conservatism and unlike liberalism one of them is not going to a movie to watch 2 guys poke themselves in you know where..........

You don't see two guys poke each other in the ASS in this film, NP.
 
mixedmedia said:
You don't see two guys poke each other in the ASS in this film, NP.

If you say so MM.........;) the essence being thry want to make that kind of sex the norm and as I have said many time the anus (I will not be so crude:lol: ) was designed as and out take to take waste from the human body not as and in take for sex...........
 
Navy Pride said:
If you say so MM.........;) the essence being thry want to make that kind of sex the norm and as I have said many time the anus (I will not be so crude:lol: ) was designed as and out take to take waste from the human body not as and in take for sex...........

You do realize this film is not a happy story full of tip-toeing through tulips and picking out drapes, don't you?

What about the movie Philadelphia? Did you object to the presentation of Tom Hanks' and Antonio Banderas' relationship in that film?
 
mixedmedia said:
You do realize this film is not a happy story full of tip-toeing through tulips and picking out drapes, don't you?

What about the movie Philadelphia? Did you object to the presentation of Tom Hanks' and Antonio Banderas' relationship in that film?

I doubt very seriously that movie was promoted by Hollywierd like this one...........
 
Navy Pride said:
I doubt very seriously that movie was promoted by Hollywierd like this one...........

What are you talking about? Philadelphia was far more successful than this film. :confused:

Yet it portrayed a committed, loving, affectionate, successful gay relationship......Brokeback Mountain does not.
 
Navy Pride said:
If you say so MM.........;) the essence being thry want to make that kind of sex the norm and as I have said many time the anus (I will not be so crude:lol: ) was designed as and out take to take waste from the human body not as and in take for sex...........

And I have told you before, who designed it? Why did they put it so close to the "jewels"? Why do people enjoy it? Where can I get a manual that states the "designer"'s intent for the orifice? Ignore me again and keep repeating yourself. You know you can't answer these questions.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
And I have told you before, who designed it? Why did they put it so close to the "jewels"? Why do people enjoy it? Where can I get a manual that states the "designer"'s intent for the orifice? Ignore me again and keep repeating yourself. You know you can't answer these questions.

I know my toes weren't meant to be used to pick up crayons off the floor. Yet I am doing that very thing right now.
 
mixedmedia said:
What are you talking about? Philadelphia was far more successful than this film. :confused:

Yet it portrayed a committed, loving, affectionate, successful gay relationship......Brokeback Mountain does not.

I could have been overseas defending my country when that movie came out because I never heard of it and I am not a big modern day movie fan.........

I Like the old movies with Paul Newman, Gregory Peck, Steve McQueen, Grace Kelly, Lauren Becall, and Joann Woodward to name a few.....

They don't make em like "To Kill a Mockingbird", "The Magnificent Seven" and "Cool Hand Luke" anymore.............
 
Navy Pride said:
I could have been overseas defending my country when that movie came out because I never heard of it and I am not a big modern day movie fan.........

I Like the old movies with Paul Newman, Gregory Peck, Steve McQueen, Grace Kelly, Lauren Becall, and Joann Woodward to name a few.....

They don't make em like "To Kill a Mockingbird", "The Magnificent Seven" and "Cool Hand Luke" anymore.............

I'm with you, NP. I'm a big fan of the classics, too. But they still make good movies now and again. You should watch Philadelphia, it's very good. You like Tom Hanks, of course, right?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
And I have told you before, who designed it? Why did they put it so close to the "jewels"? Why do people enjoy it? Where can I get a manual that states the "designer"'s intent for the orifice? Ignore me again and keep repeating yourself. You know you can't answer these questions.

You would be in deep kimchee if you didn't have one....Maybe you don't get rid of your waste that way.......:confused:


Some people get their jollies raping babies to but that does not make it right or normal..........There are all kind of perversions people like to engage in

There is your answers now write them down so you don't forget them.......:roll:
 
Navy Pride said:
Whatever rocks your boat KCC.......Maybe you should consider changing your name to KCLiberal becasue that is definitely not a conservative response.......

I figured you would be in the "No frigging way" category like most real conservatives would be...........

Personally i think your letting these liberals get to you........I hope that is not the case though.........

It's a film, NP. It's not about whether it rocks my boat or doesn't. I appreciate art. Homophobia isn't going to change that. Look, I am one of the most staunch conservatives you'll ever meet, but nobody's politics (yours or mine) is going to dictate what movies I see. I have never belonged to the 'no frigging way' category pertaining to any issue. I'm an individual first and I make up my own mind on things. There's nothing in the Conservative handbook about what movies I can watch. Insead of speaking for 'real' conservatives, try speaking just for yourself.
 
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mixedmedia said:
I'm with you, NP. I'm a big fan of the classics, too. But they still make good movies now and again. You should watch Philadelphia, it's very good. You like Tom Hanks, of course, right?

Yeah I like Tom Hanks, Enjoyed Forrest Gump and The Green Mile but no offense I will pass on that movie......................
 
KCConservative said:
It's a film, NP. It's not about whether it rocks my boat or doesn't. I appreciate art. Homophobia isn't going to change that. Look, I am one of the most staunch conservatives you'll ever meet, but nobody's politics (yours or mine) is going to dictate what movies I see. I have never belonged to the 'no frigging way' category pertaining to any issue. I'm an individual first and I make up my own mind on things. Insead of speaking for 'real' conservatives, try speaking just for yourself.

Are you saying its homophobia becasue someone does not want to see 2 guys in a love story?:confused:

Like I said, whatever rocks your boat............I would say that most social conservatives would disagree with you.........

I know your a staunch conservative .....We agree on almost every issue.........That is why I am surprised on your take on this one..............
 
Navy Pride said:
Are you saying its homophobia becasue someone does not want to see 2 guys in a love story?:confused:
Yes, that's exactly what that means. And guess what? After I saw it, I was still a conservative and I was still a straight guy.
 
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Navy Pride said:
You would be in deep kimchee if you didn't have one....Maybe you don't get rid of your waste that way.......:confused:


Some people get their jollies raping babies to but that does not make it right or normal..........There are all kind of perversions people like to engage in

There is your answers now write them down so you don't forget them.......:roll:

And that is the answer to what question?!? :confused:

Let me guess, "Can you use a red herring to try to save face after I blew your mind with 4 simple questions?"
 
KCConservative said:
Yes, that's exactly what that means. And guess what? After I saw it, I was still a conservative and I was still a straight guy.

I am sorry you feel that way because I don't believe that anyone who is not interested in seeing to guys get it on is a homophobe........Its just a matter of choice.........So are you a social moderate?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
And that is the answer to what question?!? :confused:

Let me guess, "Can you use a red herring to try to save face after I blew your mind with 4 simple questions?"

Its the answer to all that garbage you asked me.....The problem is you don't want to hear the answer or any that does not agree with your liberal beliefs.........
 
Navy Pride said:
Lets see if Brokeback Moutain does anywhere near the gross of Passion of the Christ
Only the truly misinformed judge a movie by its gross sales. It's a really stupid argument to compare any movies on how many tickets are sold.

There are too many intellectually stunted people who are incapable of understanding the storyline of complex films and they must therefore resort to inadequate and ultimately ignorant ways of measuring a film's success.

You know?
 
Deegan said:
I really have not heard any of my conservative friends bashing homosexuals here, just defending marriage, there is a difference.

lol, your right, it looks a lot better to be "for" something than "anti" the opposite. Common tactic when attampting to defend an indefensible viewpoint.
 
Maybe if we catholics cared more about the issues that make people feel that way...like, I dunno, a nazi pope and clergy molestors.

lol Whoa, whoa, calm down gay boy. Maybe go watch an episode of Will and Grace. Think about how cool and calm Jack is all the time.

I am entitled to my opinion about their being a bias in the media without being personally attacked and frankly, I don't appreciate the way you're talking to me. But of course anything that goes against what you and your boyfriend is a "no no," huh? Maybe the truth behind your point of view about the Passion is that it makes you feel insecure about your homosexuality.

You know, I was thinking the other day that I wish our Pope might have a different look on homosexuality. Maybe if you had considered that, you wouldn't have jumped down my throat like this. But of course you just had to attack someone that's been nice to you since day one on here. Real freakin honorable, dude.

Our Pope, whatever his opinion on certain matters are, is by no means a Nazi. But hey! If you don't like our Pope or our clergy, get the F out of our Church. I mean seriously, leave. Please don't let the door hit you on your ass on the way out. But of course, maybe you'd like that. :mrgreen:. I've just lost all respect I ever had for you, Jawman. Adios.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I could have been overseas defending my country when that movie came out because I never heard of it and I am not a big modern day movie fan.........

I Like the old movies with Paul Newman, Gregory Peck, Steve McQueen, Grace Kelly, Lauren Becall, and Joann Woodward to name a few.....

Marlon Brando . . . ?


:rofl
 
mixedmedia said:
Well, if you can't feel proud about being a Christian anymore, then that says a lot less about Hollywood and liberals than it does about you and your need for the public endorsement of your faith.

You know Scorsese also directed a film about the Dalai Lama, called Kundun, a beautifully made piece of film art that he didn't even get a directing nomination for. Should Buddhists feel less secure or proud about their faith because they hardly ever make films about Buddhism in Hollywood and this one didn't even get nominated?

Please, George, you can't expect the world to validate your beliefs every friggin' day of your life. Just believe what you believe and practice your faith. I heartell that the true validation of one's faith comes from within.

Media, I don't feel insecure in my faith. I've announced that I'm a Christian on here without hesitation. But look, I stand behind my comments: There is a real liberal bias towards the Media!

A good book to read about this is, "The Ten Things You Can't Say in America" by Larry Elder. Elder brings up some very good points about the media bias in this country. Larry Elder is a brillant African America libertarian. I think reading his works might open your mind a bit...please, I urge you to consider reading that book.

If you don't really think there is descrimination against Christians in this country, another good book to read would be anything by David Horowitz. He's a brillant Jewish Republican who has contributed much to politics. I've seen him speak and I remember that one interesting thing he said was how President Bush never met once during his first campaign year with the Christian Coalition but he did meet with the Log Cabin Republicans, the gay wing of the party. Kind of interesting...

But about Buddhists, I do feel sorry for them, considering how much they suffered in the past century at the hands of the Chinese. You're right about Scorsese's film about them being good, it was.
 
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Navy Pride said:
I am sorry you feel that way because I don't believe that anyone who is not interested in seeing to guys get it on is a homophobe........Its just a matter of choice.........So are you a social moderate?

There ya go, it's a matter of choice.....and yet you have already put two different labels on me because I 'chose' to see the film. Homosexuality doesn't have to 'rock my boat' in order for me to see a film about it. Why are you sorry I feel this way? What is the issue you're apologizing for, exactly? With regard to being a social moderate.....let's just say I'm a human being. I'm aq conservative and I sawe the film....big deal. Going to the movies won't turn you gay, NP. Relax.
 
George_Washington said:
lol Whoa, whoa, calm down gay boy. Maybe go watch an episode of Will and Grace. Think about how cool and calm Jack is all the time.

I am entitled to my opinion about their being a bias in the media without being personally attacked and frankly, I don't appreciate the way you're talking to me. But of course anything that goes against what you and your boyfriend is a "no no," huh? Maybe the truth behind your point of view about the Passion is that it makes you feel insecure about your homosexuality.

You know, I was thinking the other day that I wish our Pope might have a different look on homosexuality. Maybe if you had considered that, you wouldn't have jumped down my throat like this. But of course you just had to attack someone that's been nice to you since day one on here. Real freakin honorable, dude.

Our Pope, whatever his opinion on certain matters are, is by no means a Nazi. But hey! If you don't like our Pope or our clergy, get the F out of our Church. I mean seriously, leave. Please don't let the door hit you on your ass on the way out. But of course, maybe you'd like that. :mrgreen:. I've just lost all respect I ever had for you, Jawman. Adios.

The feeling was quite mutual when you made the assinine post that prompted this response. Quite frankly, your lack of respect was already made very clear. And forgive me if I dont find observations concerning my honor to be all that relevant coming from one such as you. You can keep playing victim over how Christians are supposedly treated and I will keep laughing my ass off that someone can have the views you do. Hey, if it makes you feel better, just tell yourself big bad gay Hollywood caused it all. :rofl
 
George_Washington said:
Media, I don't feel insecure in my faith. I've announced that I'm a Christian on here without hesitation. But look, I stand behind my comments: There is a real liberal bias towards the Media!

A good book to read about this is, "The Ten Things You Can't Say in America" by Larry Elder. Elder brings up some very good points about the media bias in this country. Larry Elder is a brillant African America libertarian. I think reading his works might open your mind a bit...please, I urge you to consider reading that book.

If you don't really think there is descrimination against Christians in this country, another good book to read would be anything by David Horowitz. He's a brillant Jewish Republican who has contributed much to politics. I've seen him speak and I remember that one interesting thing he said was how President Bush never met once during his first campaign year with the Christian Coalition but he did meet with the Log Cabin Republicans, the gay wing of the party. Kind of interesting...

But about Buddhists, I do feel sorry for them, considering how much they suffered in the past century at the hands of the Chinese. You're right about Scorsese's film about them being good, it was.

Hollywood is under no commitment to make movies for you. I have already acknowledged that it is largely a liberal community. And again, my reaction to your regret about that is - so what? The movie industry doesn't exist to make you feel good about yourself. Just watch the movies you like and appreciate that they are there. Ignore the rest. They are only movies, for pete's sake.

And since you are aware of the plight of Tibetan Buddhists, then perhaps you can glean some sort of perspective from that on what religious persecution really means.
 
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