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Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

JohnRawls said:
Cool, US sponsoring terrorists and killing civilians absolves everyone else for doing much, much, much worse things?

You know what, you have no common sense at all. I don't know what or why or for what reason brainwashed you. There is no equivalence here. It is time to stop pretending that running dictatorships and killing your own civilians on purpose on mass or mass terror from Hezbollah or Hamas or Iran is anywhere close to what Israel is doing or did.

Yes US killed civilians, Yes Israel killed civilians, Yes US/Israel sponsored terrorist and made deals with guys we might not like but lets not pretend here or try to say that somehow Israel or US is worse or not justified to do all that. Iran literally sponsors several state level proxies to fight Israel while its main doctrine is basically destruction of Israel. Hamas and Hezbollah openly want to kill all the jews in Israel and its impossible to hide. The named entities basically outright kill their opponents to maintain power, fully supress their opposition and kill civilians on a whim if they feel even a threat of disloyalty. They have no free speech, they have no rule of law, they have no prosperity or technology of any sort, they have nothing. They are not interested in even improving the lives of their own people or giving them a happy or a prosperous life.

So saying US BAD, ISRAEL BAD doesn't change anything. Sure, whatever. There is no reason why we should support Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas or try to defend them by saying Israel BAD. The only reason I see here is because somebody is brainwashed or outright under influence of very stupid and deranged ideas.

Having said that, it doesn't mean things can't change. They certainly can. If Palestinians or Hezbollah or Iran were actually, you know, proper structures that were humane then they would have a leg to stand on in this regard because Israel does do bad things. The problem is that Israel doesn't even do 1/10th of what the other 3 do. And US doesn't do even 1/100th of bad things that Iran or China or Russia does. The naivety of Americans sometimes amazes me.
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realistic evaluation
 
Desert Storm said:
Doesn't look like Iran will get help from Putin

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Putin already has his hands full with Ukraine.

He'd probably be happy to watch the US use Iran as a chew toy while he finishes off Zelensky.
 
Desert Storm said:
The anti-government protests have started in Iran. Very moderate at the moment, but could grow with time

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As have the anti Israel ones. The one problem with pushing for regime change in a country that's been subjected to it in the past is it goes over like a lead balloon and no nation wants the selection of its leadership come at the hands of a foreign power. In this case that it's Israel makes it much worse.
 
Desert Storm said:
That dude McGregor is out of his tree.

1/3rd of Tel Aviv damaged or destroyed.
Yeah sure, buddy



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Can't blame the terrorist tyrants and their far-left supporters for trying to fake success, they're losing the crap out of this war. For every missile they manage to hit civilian population centers with (which gains them nothing militarily) they get hundreds of bombs taking out their most precious military assets.
 
Desert Storm said:
That dude McGregor is out of his tree.

1/3rd of Tel Aviv damaged or destroyed.
Yeah sure, buddy



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How would Grok know? Israel had barred people and journalists from filming anything.
 
NOLA Dude said:
How would Grok know? Israel had barred people and journalists from filming anything.
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I guess everyone has access to Tel Aviv cameras and it's easy to debunk a claim that 1/3 of the city is destroyed lol.

Also, Israel didn't "ban filming anything", journalists report on the war and from the scenes of the hits but are not allowed to provide exact locations for obvious security reasons.
 
Apocalypse said:
Can't blame the terrorist tyrants and their far-left supporters for trying to fake success, they're losing the crap out of this war. For every missile they manage to hit civilian population centers with (which gains them nothing militarily) they get hundreds of bombs taking out their most precious military assets.
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I don't want to hear shit from any Israel supporter about hitting civilian population centers after their genocide in Gaza.

 
NOLA Dude said:
I don't want to hear shit from any Israel supporter about hitting civilian population centers after their genocide in Gaza.
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Hamas hides behind civilians and uses them as human shields.
 
Apocalypse said:
I guess everyone has access to Tel Aviv cameras and it's easy to debunk a claim that 1/3 of the city is destroyed lol.

Also, Israel didn't "ban filming anything", journalists report on the war and from the scenes of the hits but are not allowed to provide exact locations for obvious security reasons.
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Specifically, journalists and editors are prohibited from:

Filming or broadcasting images from impact sites, particularly near military installations.
Using drones or wide-angle cameras to show impact areas.
Detailing the precise location of affected areas near security installations.
Broadcasting images of Israeli missiles being launched or of Iranian missiles being intercepted.
The directive also bans the sharing of videos from social media without prior review by the censor, cautioning – as a side note – that some may be “enemy-generated fake news”.
www.aljazeera.com

How does Israel restrict its media from reporting on the Iran conflict?

The military censor has introduced a slew of new restrictions on journalists covering the unfolding war.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
 
Back to the OP... Iran funds and arms Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthis who have been attacking Israel for decades.

Israel attacks Iran, the source of the Islamic terrorists and their weapons, and it's called "Preemptive". :rolleyes:
 
NOLA Dude said:
Specifically, journalists and editors are prohibited from:

Filming or broadcasting images from impact sites, particularly near military installations.
Using drones or wide-angle cameras to show impact areas.
Detailing the precise location of affected areas near security installations.
Broadcasting images of Israeli missiles being launched or of Iranian missiles being intercepted.
The directive also bans the sharing of videos from social media without prior review by the censor, cautioning – as a side note – that some may be “enemy-generated fake news”.
www.aljazeera.com

How does Israel restrict its media from reporting on the Iran conflict?

The military censor has introduced a slew of new restrictions on journalists covering the unfolding war.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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Makes sense.
We get footage from scenes of missile hits every day on Israeli TV. What we don't get is exact locations or broadcasting that reveals the precise location of a strike. That would immediately endanger the security of Israeli civilians and allow the terrorist regime to target them more easily.
 
NOLA Dude said:
Specifically, journalists and editors are prohibited from:

Filming or broadcasting images from impact sites, particularly near military installations.
Using drones or wide-angle cameras to show impact areas.
Detailing the precise location of affected areas near security installations.
Broadcasting images of Israeli missiles being launched or of Iranian missiles being intercepted.
The directive also bans the sharing of videos from social media without prior review by the censor, cautioning – as a side note – that some may be “enemy-generated fake news”.
www.aljazeera.com

How does Israel restrict its media from reporting on the Iran conflict?

The military censor has introduced a slew of new restrictions on journalists covering the unfolding war.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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Funny, how there's lots of videos on twitter and youtube of exactly that, images of impact sites

Just some examples:









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Desert Storm said:
Funny, how there's lots of videos on twitter and youtube of exactly that, images of impact sites

Just some examples:








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Were those from before the ban? Are you claiming Isreal didn't ban what I listed above?
 
Apocalypse said:
Hamas hides behind civilians and uses them as human shields.
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Another example of Isreal doing it too



The Ichilov hospital is a military base in disguise with underground military facilities and tunnels to IDF military headquarters in 450m radius of hospital.
 
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