Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

[multivita-man]

I'm not sure what this means.

I think he means that they're sorta subhuman.

 

[NOLA Dude]

A voice of reason.



In less than 18 hours after Israel’s surprise attack, Iran responded firing hundreds of ballistic missiles including hypersonic missiles into central Tel Aviv and across Israel.

Meanwhile, Israel's Iron Dome failed. Israeli intelligence failed. Now Netanyahu is pleading with Washington to intervene with American Military Power to rescue Israel from certain defeat; a defeat Netanyahu crafted with encouragement from Washington.

At the same time, Russia, China, Pakistan and most of the Muslim World are rallying to Iran’s defense.

Supplies, equipment and technical assistance are pouring into Iran.

It’s time for a reality check:

Washington burned through $12 trillion in the Middle East since 2003. Result? 7,000 dead Americans. 50,000 wounded, open borders and 100,000 Americans dying yearly from Fentanyl poisoning.

Today, the United States is $37 trillion in debt, a sum that does not include so-called “agency debt.” 77 million Americans voted for President Trump because he promised to end the overseas conflicts and halt the march to WW3.

Trump’s mandate is unchanged: Secure America’s borders, ports and coastal waters. Deport illegal aliens, crush the criminals r-ping and murdering Americans. Restore the rule of law. But not one more drop of American blood for foreign wars.

One Israeli strike on Kharg Island—where 90% of Iran's oil exports flow—or Bandar Abbas terminals, and Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz. That's 20% of global oil supply.

That means disrupted supply chains and runaway inflation. Gas hits $7/gallon overnight. Every working family crushed. Truckers can't deliver food. Economy crashes. For what? So Israel that started this insane war can drag Americans into a wider regional conflict with the potential for nuclear war?

We have 40,000 troops in UAE, Qatar, across the Persian Gulf. They are sitting ducks. Iranian Shahed-136 Drones cost $20,000 each. American Patriot Missiles cost $4 million per interceptor.

Do the math. We will run through our inventory of missiles and go broke while Americans come home in boxes.

The Middle East is on the brink. Here's what Washington must do to defuse conflict:

1. Ask for an Emergency UN Security Council meeting. Ask for an Immediate ceasefire making it clear that Washington opposes the destruction of Iran, Israel and any other state in the Middle East.

2. Demand that Israel stop the killing of Palestinians in Gaza and withdraw its forces from Gaza and the West Bank.

3. Suspend all military aid to Israel until Israel agrees to remove its troops from Gaza and permit humanitarian assistance to reach the people of Gaza.

4. Propose the commitment of Armed Forces from non-aligned nations to police Gaza and the West Bank. 5. Propose that the United States, Russia, China, India and Brazil convene a peace conference to arbitrate the dispute between Israel, Iran and Israel’s neighbors.

I led American Soldiers under fire into action. I've seen plenty of flag-draped coffins. I don’t want to see any more. Washington’s warmongers had 22 years. They failed. They lied.

They profited while America bled. Time's up.

America First means AMERICA FIRST. Not Israel first. Not Ukraine first. Not NATO first. AMERICA FIRST.

 

[snakestretcher]

And how exactly do you think Iran is doing that?
By giving them weapons to kill Jews?
By propping up Hezbollah to threaten Israel in the north?
How about giving Hamas money from oil sales so they can repair and build new tunnels under Gaza from which to harass and kill Jews?

Irrespective of which faith Israelis follow, their actions and occupation are illegal and have been since they were given a country. I would condemn any nation treating its neighbours as Israel has done. Let me remind you that, as appalling as the Hamas attack was, under international law the Palestinian people have the right to defend themselves against a belligerent occupying force; in this case, Israel.
Israel is the bad actor here, no matter how much demonizing of Palestine the likes of AIPAC have been doing and brainwashing you with over the decades. Netanyahu has made it abundantly clear that he isn't interested in peace; witness the many negotiations he has walked out on, or admitting he deliberately sabotaged-like Oslo.

"Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty". Likud Charter, 1977. Think about that for a moment.

 

[ASHES]

Wow. I thought it was just an air campaign, but apparently they've had boots on ground for months, and pulled off Ukraine style drone attacks from inside Iran.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Iran will never carry a big nuclear stick if Israel has anything to do with it.

Therein lies yet another problem.

 

[BirdinHand]

We have 40,000 troops in UAE, Qatar, across the Persian Gulf. They are sitting ducks.

I’m sorry, but nowhere in this planet are US troops “sitting ducks”

We have the best equipped military in the world. And they are highly trained and more than capable of defending themselves.

It is sad that you - and whatever source you post - thinks so little of them as to refer to them as “sitting ducks”


I do not want to see the United States involved in this conflict, but I would never stoop to the level of debasing our military by calling them “sitting ducks”

That’s just shameful.

 

[snakestretcher]

Therein lies yet another problem.

Yes, and also Iran allowed the IAEA access to her enrichment facilities to ensure they were complying (which the IAEA confirmed Iran was), yet Israel will not allow inspection of their nuclear facilities. I wonder why-maybe for the same reasons journalists are not allowed to enter Gaza-something to hide?

 

[multivita-man]

Wow. I thought it was just an air campaign, but apparently they've had boots on ground for months, and pulled off Ukraine style drone attacks from inside Iran.

Yeah, Mossad has operatives in Iran, apparently.

I don't know if you recall (the details are fuzzy in my mind now), but maybe a year or so ago, there was an attack inside Iran linked to Al Qaeda or ISIS. I haven't thought about it much since, but at the time, I made a mental note that, if that's what actually happened (and I have no reason to doubt it), that would suggest a major deterioration in Iran's internal security. I also wondered at the time whether the US was somehow collaborating with Salafist extremists. Maybe Israel or the US has, or maybe no one has, and Iran's security's stretched then from repeated decapitation.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This has NOTHING to do with "anti-semitism"

Firstly , the ONLY JEWS who are semites are the Mizrahis - they are NOT zionists and they side with the Palestinians
The Naturei Karte and the Hassidic JEWS HATE ZIONIST ISRAEL

The only Jews who are ZIONISTS are the WHITE EUROPEANS known as ASS-K-NAZI ZIONISTS

Hassidic Jews hate Israel....

ROFL

Nazi idiocy is idiotic.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm just scrambled eggs

At least the part of you that thinks...

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes Jews were living there - they were the MIZRAHIS - the ONLY JEWS who are semites - they lived peacefully side by side with the Palestinians - NEVER a problem .4

The League of Nations and the ALlies designated the UK as the country which would guide the newly independent country to full statehood,

Former Israeli PM Golda Meir admitted that she was a Palestinian and carried their passport from 1921 until 1948.

Prior to 1966 - ONLY Jews in Israel were called "Palestinian."

The Neo-Nazi sites you're getting this nonsense from don't serve you as well as you think.

 

[multivita-man]

Yes, and also Iran allowed the IAEA access to her enrichment facilities to ensure they were complying (which the IAEA confirmed Iran was), yet Israel will not allow inspection of their nuclear facilities. I wonder why-maybe for the same reasons journalists are not allowed to enter Gaza-something to hide?

Netanyahu decided now was the time to take out a regime, which I think Israel is capable of doing. What I am less sure of is whether Israel (and the rest of us) can deal with a headless Iran.

 

[ASHES]

Netanyahu decided now was the time to take out a regime, which I think Israel is capable of doing. What I am less sure of is whether Israel (and the rest of us) can deal with a headless Iran.

It appears it will need to be the policy of any new regime to stop funding Hezbollah, Hamas, attacking Israel, and seeking nuclear weapons, or they will face the same fate ultimately.

 

[multivita-man]

It appears it will need to be the policy of any new regime to stop funding Hezbollah, Hamas, attacking Israel, and seeking nuclear weapons, or they will face the same fate ultimately.

Israel started something that might be a years-long commitment, and they do not have the resources to commit to such an effort by themselves. They're counting on US commitment at a time when much of the US population either flatly doesn't like Israel or just wants fewer commitments to foreign conflicts of any kind. I think they can expect even less help from European allies.

 

[markdc]

Why do YOU hate Jews?

This Contumacious guy sounds like an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist. It wouldn’t surprise me if he/she believed in this:
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/abbas-and-khazar-claim-separating-myth-fact

Mark

 

[markdc]

I’m sorry, but nowhere in this planet are US troops “sitting ducks”

We have the best equipped military in the world. And they are highly trained and more than capable of defending themselves.

It is sad that you - and whatever source you post - thinks so little of them as to refer to them as “sitting ducks”


I do not want to see the United States involved in this conflict, but I would never stoop to the level of debasing our military by calling them “sitting ducks”

That’s just shameful.

I agree with you that we should NOT get into this war.

And our servicemembers are great. Sadly, they’ve been exploited by many presidents, including the current one.

Mark

 

[Uncensored2008]

There's a reason so many Presidents have tried to avoid direct war with Iran at all costs. Too many think Iran is this tiny widdle country in a vacuum.

In reality - Iran is in an alliance with Russia, China, North Korea, and the American democrats.

Sort of "The bloc of pure evil."

 

[ASHES]

and the American democrats.

 

[markdc]

Well, aren't you disappointed? It's much better. He was handed a much tougher situation, but has proven to be equal to the task.

I think Trump has been good on the trans issue (though I disagree with the transgender military ban), abortion (I think he’s right not to pursue a federal ban but to leave abortion to the states), and stopping virtually all illegal immigration at the southern border. I don’t think he’s good on much else. His tariff policies are harmful and idiotic. I don’t think he personally wants the U.S. to go war with Iran but his pro-Israel policies may well cause that to happen. I don’t like Trump sending the military into the streets of America, but I recognize that the Left is to blame for much of that given their tendency for violence, as we saw in the summer of 2020.

Mark

 

[Uncensored2008]

Israel also risks creating a new generation of Iranians that absolutely hate them, or changing the minds of those who are currently leaning towards pro-western ideals. Beyond occupation, when in history has bombing a country brought about lasting/successful regime change, especially in less than say 5 years?

I mean, because the current generation dearly loves them.

This is the reality:

 

[multivita-man]

I agree with you that we should NOT get into this war.

Unless there's a credible plan for a new regime that everyone in Iran is going to welcome with open arms as they all hold hands, sing songs, and magically get along with, I don't see how we don't get eventually sucked into the vortex of what will likely be a significant power vacuum. It will also be interesting to see if Ayatollah/IRGC doesn't go scorched-earth and try to lob hundreds of their newer missiles at Israel, shutter Hormuz (or attempt to), and attack US assets in the region, all or even any of which would invite massive retaliation of course. But if online OSINT reporting is accurate, it looks like key Iranian political leaders are already heading for the exits. They'll leave it to their citizens and their neighbors to do the cleanup.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Bigger danger IMO is Iran becoming a hideout for terrorists. Iran will have lots of military hardware left over to play with and the security situation would likely break down. Also very possible that a fair number of Iranians would cross over into Iraq and destabilize things there. We'd have two countries with some of the largest proven reserves destabilized.

ISIS 2.0

Many, if not most of the most prodigious terrorist groups; Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthi Boca Harim, are already Iranian front groups. Iran is a terrorist state leading the world in international terrorism.

 

[multivita-man]

Neither Russia, China nor N Korea will be helping Iran , they are helping themselves . The madmen at the CIA will be going after them - DIVIDE AND CONQUER

ZOMFG!!!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Neither Russia, China nor N Korea will be helping Iran , they are helping themselves . The madmen at the CIA will be going after them - DIVIDE AND CONQUER

Iran has been supplying arms and munitions to Russia for years to support the Biden war against Ukraine.

It would be idiotic to think Russia would not provide mutual aid. These "hypersonic" missiles that barely reach the speed of sound that Iran is using are at least Russian designed, if not outright Russian manufactured.

Standard Disclaimer: This shows that China did not share the hypersonic technology (they stole from the USA) with the Iranians or the Russians.

 

[jaypatriot]

Therein lies yet another problem.

I believe that Bibi is handling the problem very well.
I believe he had no option but to cripple Iran's nuclear ambitions. If you can't see that, then that is just another one of your misgivings about the eternal conflict between Jews and Arabs/Persians.

Therein lies yet another problem.

I believe that Bibi is handling the problem very well.
I believe he had no option but to cripple Iran's nuclear ambitions. If you can't see that, then that is just another one of your misgivings about the eternal conflict between Jews and Arabs/Persians.