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Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

Many, if not most of the most prodigious terrorist groups; Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthi Boca Harim, are already Iranian front groups. Iran is a terrorist state leading the world in international terrorism.

I don't agree with Bibi's thinking (if that wasn't already clear), but I do understand it. From Israel's POV, an arch-enemy of Israel has never been weaker. Finish it off Michael Corleone/Godfather style.

But I think destroying their nuke ambitions and leaving it at that might have been the smarter play. Iran's ability to project power via proxies was getting nullified by the day, and I think the US could have put pressure on Iran to give up its strategic nuclear ambitions. It seems like they were almost there, in fact.

Now there's a very real threat of a new kind of regional destabilization.
 
And Israel doesn't even have a CONSTITUTION - and it never has - which is absolutely ridiculous for a country that claims to be a "Western democracy"
That in itself is disqualifying.

i don't think so.

we have a Constitution but it is mostly on paper; our Leaders brag in some cases how they go around it, so why have it in the first place. it is a good document, but much of it has been over run by the Oligarchy and Dark Maga.

eventually it will be replaced by the neo fascist Dark Maga technocracy, slowly eroding our present representative Republic we started out with.


Those who say "but Israel is like us" need to think again.

Are you even aware that Israel doesn't have a constitution?? Do you understand the importance of having a constitution for a country?

yeah it's a good thing to have but only in followed. let me know when this gets serious.

thanks.


Maybe @ASHES or @reinaert or @Allan will tell me that none of that matters, and that anybody who says otherwise is a pedo.
If that doesn't even matter to you, then you're saying something about yourselves.
 
You realize there’s more than a thousand miles and three countries between Israel and Iran, right? How exactly does Iran having a larger army matter?

this is not a problem for the Ezekiel wars coming with Iran, Russia and Turkey, others joining in the fight and losing the fight.


Prophecy marches on people. time for an update on what you think can and cannot happen

it will happen bigly.

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Irrespective of which faith Israelis follow, their actions and occupation are illegal and have been since they were given a country. I would condemn any nation treating its neighbours as Israel has done. Let me remind you that, as appalling as the Hamas attack was, under international law the Palestinian people have the right to defend themselves against a belligerent occupying force; in this case, Israel.
Israel is the bad actor here, no matter how much demonizing of Palestine the likes of AIPAC have been doing and brainwashing you with over the decades. Netanyahu has made it abundantly clear that he isn't interested in peace; witness the many negotiations he has walked out on, or admitting he deliberately sabotaged-like Oslo.

"Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty". Likud Charter, 1977. Think about that for a moment.

"Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty". Likud Charter, 1977. Think about that for a moment.

There should only be Israeli control of all Palestinian territory. Palestine is not a nation. It is a group of people ethnically related. They reside on land controlled by Israel.
 
Iran will never carry a big nuclear stick if Israel has anything to do with it.

If Trump had not won in 2024, Iran's nuclear ambitions would have been fulfilled. Credit goes fully to Israel and the incredible Mossad, but Biden actively interfered on behalf of Iran. Another Obama proxy like Kamala would have done the same.
 
Trump already has numbed us to chaos in his 1st 6 months, that we are all shrugging off a new direct war between Israel & Iran

Because the 10/7 attack that started this war occured under Trump's watch.

Oh wait....
 
"Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty". Likud Charter, 1977. Think about that for a moment.

There should only be Israeli control of all Palestinian territory. Palestine is not a nation. It is a group of people ethnically related. They reside on land controlled by Israel.
The Palestinians disagree....as does the result of the globe outside the US.
 
Because the 10/7 attack that started this war occured under Trump's watch.

Oh wait....
Israel was killing Palestinian civilians long before October 7th, and Israel’s actions since have rendered it irrelevant.
 
Netanyahu decided now was the time to take out a regime, which I think Israel is capable of doing. What I am less sure of is whether Israel (and the rest of us) can deal with a headless Iran.
Israel hasn’t been able to “take out” Hamas or Hezbollah in decades of trying. I get American admiration for Israel’s military and security forces borders on worshipful, but if Israel possessed that capability they wouldn’t have needed the US to invade countries like Iraq for them.
 
It appears it will need to be the policy of any new regime to stop funding Hezbollah, Hamas, attacking Israel, and seeking nuclear weapons, or they will face the same fate ultimately.
Israel’s apartheid pals in South Africa couldn’t force Angola and Mozambique to stop supporting resistance fighters no matter how many times they invaded, and Iran is unlikely to be different
 
Netanyahu decided now was the time to take out a regime, which I think Israel is capable of doing. What I am less sure of is whether Israel (and the rest of us) can deal with a headless Iran.
The last time there was regime change in Iran it didn't go well.
 
"Between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty". Likud Charter, 1977. Think about that for a moment.

There should only be Israeli control of all Palestinian territory.

yes, yes and yes.

God gave the land to Israel, in fact a lot more than they posses today. they will also get Lebanon and parts of Iran et al.

Prophetically this will continue all the way to Armageddon when Jesus comes back and stops all wars and we become a christian Theocracy world wide.

in the mean time, the Elite are prepping for WW three to institute their neo Fascists regimes world wide. read up on Dark Maga and learn you some of their plans. CBDC will be what will control yur every move on the Block chain.

please learn friends.

blessings till the End happening soon.

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Palestine is not a nation. It is a group of people ethnically related. They reside on land controlled by Israel.
 
The Palestinians disagree....as does the result of the globe outside the US.
Palestinians still remain an ethnic group on the wrong side of history. If they were worthy as a territory, they wouldn't be living in ruins without a leader or supporter.
 


60 days. ???

it matters not. give them 1000000 days and the same thing.

Prophetically Iran is finished, they just have to go thru the motions of defeat and then you will see the Greater Israel.

please learn people.

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Palestinians still remain an ethnic group on the wrong side of history. If they were worthy as a territory, they wouldn't be living in ruins without a leader or supporter.
So close! That’s actually Israel, due to its habit of trying to steal other people’s land.

They clearly do have supporters. The West endlessly throws tantrums about other countries supporting them.
 
Palestinians still remain an ethnic group on the wrong side of history. If they were worthy as a territory,


they wouldn't be living in ruins without a leader or supporter.

their 'leadership' doesn't even live in Gaza currently but in another neighboring state.

i think they know this war not going to end to well for them. Prophecy marches on; hello Obadiah the prophet, you are right again......and again.


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The last time there was regime change in Iran it didn't go well.

Assuming you're talking about the Shah, it went surprisingly well -- for about 25 years. But it's not 1954 anymore. Although the US has more global reach now than it did then, suffice it to say, we are a hot mess at home. We don't have the headspace for protracted foreign conflict.

I worry about rising antisemitism here and in Europe if the US and the West get sucked into yet another foreign policy debacle in the Middle East that appears to be in support of Israel without any obvious benefit to us. There's already a lot of anti-Israel antipathy on the left, but I can see fault lines on the right as well, and given the conspiracy theory tendencies of those on the right, I don't think it will be simply anti-Likud or anti-Israel sentiments that get expressed.
 
Assuming you're talking about the Shah, it went surprisingly well -- for about 25 years. But it's not 1954 anymore. Although the US has more global reach now than it did then, suffice it to say, we are a hot mess at home. We don't have the headspace for protracted foreign conflict.

I worry about rising antisemitism here and in Europe if the US and the West get sucked into yet another foreign policy debacle in the Middle East that appears to be in support of Israel without any obvious benefit to us. There's already a lot of anti-Israel antipathy on the left, but I can see fault lines on the right as well, and given the conspiracy theory tendencies of those on the right, I don't think it will be simply anti-Likud or anti-Israel sentiments that get expressed.
I meant when the Shaw's regime was overthrown.
 
Assuming you're talking about the Shah, it went surprisingly well -- for about 25 years. But it's not 1954 anymore. Although the US has more global reach now than it did then, suffice it to say, we are a hot mess at home. We don't have the headspace for protracted foreign conflict.

I worry about rising antisemitism here and in Europe if the US and the West get sucked

not to worry, read the End of the book and we win and so does Israel.

this all started in 1948 and will end in Armageddon. the neo fascists lose in the end too; fasten yur seat belts and observe the End Times moving at a faster clip.


into yet another foreign policy debacle in the Middle East that appears to be in support of Israel without any obvious benefit to us. There's already a lot of anti-Israel antipathy on the left, but I can see fault lines on the right as well, and given the conspiracy theory tendencies of those on the right, I don't think it will be simply anti-Likud or anti-Israel sentiments that get expressed.
 
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