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Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

Iran's Quds Force leader has been relocated to Israel

It turns out that he was a spy working for the Israelis


Not really seeing any sources for this beyond this random twitter dude
 
no new wars / peace loving MAGA propaganda out in full force tonight eh?
Well Israel is our ally and Iran is a threat to humanity.
Israel has to stopping Iran before they get a nuke.
When Iran says death to Israel and death to America they are not fooling around.
 
Well Israel is our ally and Iran is a threat to humanity.
Israel has to stopping Iran before they get a nuke.
When Iran says death to Israel and death to America they are not fooling around.
You got your war. Enjoy!
 
Your point is taken. But your analogy is not.
Well, I just mean, how mad could you possibly be, right? Sure, we knew about it, just not officially. I think these dictator lead countries are so used to power, and so secure in the grip on the country, they never believe they could actually lose it. Saddam Hussein refused to give in to our demands because he never thought we would follow through.

Maybe this will give the Iranian dictators a dose of reality and realize that the better path for them is no nukes, along with supreme power and wealth in their country. The other path is definitely not as good.
 
Sure like when we had it all sorted out with North Korea and then all of a sudden hey have nuclear weapons.

Just like with Iraq, we had the IAEA inside. And as we saw post-war, Iraq was strongly deterred - effectively leaving them short of nuclear weapons.

Now with Iran, since 2018, what happened? How far are they from a bomb?
 
Well, I just mean, how mad could you possibly be, right? Sure, we knew about it, just not officially. I think these dictator lead countries are so used to power, and so secure in the grip on the country, they never believe they could actually lose it. Saddam Hussein refused to give in to our demands because he never thought we would follow through.

Maybe this will give the Iranian dictators a dose of reality and realize that the better path for them is no nukes, along with supreme power and wealth in their country. The other path is definitely not as good.
Ummmm dictators & the ME are like pb&j
 
I think people forget that Iran does have some missiles with very good targeting computers. Iranian engineers are actually quite skilled, but often underestimated. The difficulty is not their understanding of the technology, but getting their hands on adequate components.

I'm actually surprised by the limited response from Iran. I have no idea what to make of it. It's possible Israel significantly degraded Iran's retaliation capability.
 
Here's another possible outcome:

Iran declares 'allegiance' to Russia & instead of ground sending troops to Israel, they send troops to Ukrainian & in exchange Russia provides them with weapons & air & missile support. If Iran can give Russia a boost in Ukraine to tip those scales, in the long run Russia could potentially provide more support.

Thinking in realpolitik here

Iran isn't sending ground troops anywhere. There's a reason they used proxies like Hezbollah and, to a lesser degree, Hamas all these years.
 
Iran isn't sending ground troops anywhere. There's a reason they used proxies like Hezbollah and, to a lesser degree, Hamas all these years.
They have over 600K active duty troops & 10x the population of Israel.
 
Iran isn't sending ground troops anywhere. There's a reason they used proxies like Hezbollah and, to a lesser degree, Hamas all these years.
Hezbollah is not a proxy.
The ASS-K-NAZI Zionists have been trying to steal Southern Lebanon up to and including the Litani River.
Hezbollah Homeland Security Patriots have prevented that from happening - the Lebanese share a common enemy with Iran - the criminal ZIonists neextdoor
 
Here's another possible outcome:

Iran declares 'allegiance' to Russia & instead of ground sending troops to Israel, they send troops to Ukrainian & in exchange Russia provides them with weapons & air & missile support. If Iran can give Russia a boost in Ukraine to tip those scales, in the long run Russia could potentially provide more support.

Thinking in realpolitik here
Never happening.
 
They have over 600K active duty troops & 10x the population of Israel.

I don't see them wasting troops on Russia's meatgrinder. Iranians aren't North Koreans. They are well aware that being shipped off to fight alongside Russian troops against Ukraine is certain death.
 
Hezbollah is not a proxy.

They are. Well, they were.

The ASS-K-NAZI Zionists have been trying to steal Southern Lebanon up to and including the Litani River.
Hezbollah Homeland Security Patriots have prevented that from happening - the Lebanese share a common enemy with Iran - the criminal ZIonists neextdoor

The Lebanese are diverse. They're Christian and Muslim and other faiths, which is why they've had civil conflict in the past. Southern Lebanon has a lot descendants of displaced Palestinians.

I am far from a defender or apologist for IDF ethnic cleansing in Gaza and W Bank, but Iran (the regime, not the people, who are lovely) is a pain in the penis that requires some penicillin.
 
I appreciate, on a personal note, that you identify Tehran's leadership as rational actors. They are pig-****ers, to be sure, but they are not irrational actors.

As to point two, Trump really ****ed all of us, ripping up an agreement that slowly weakened the Ayatollahs in direct relation to how it integrated Iran into Europe's economy.

For that alone, he belongs in the Treachery circle of any imaginable hell.

I'm glad I'm not the only one harkening back to the Obama treaty.

I vociferously & assiduously criticized Trump's removal of it. And now, here we are,
 
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