Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

[ColdHardTruth]

That would be a few Hamas militants; not the 50,000 dead civilian men, women and children slaughtered by Netanyahu's IDF. That's the cold, hard truth.

I am unhappy with the death toll in Gaza. I think it went too far. Hamas should have returned the hostages instead of playing terrorist games. I don't care for Israel cutting all food and water supplies to Gaza either.

I remain hopeful that the situation can be dealt with appropriately.

 

[jaypatriot]

Response to snakestretcher:

How very convenient of you to be able to sit from your high moral perch in Merry Old England, the greatest imperialist nation after the Roman Empire.
Americans fought to rid themselves of oppressive British rule starting in 1775. At the end of the Revolutionary War, America did not end up with an anti-American nation sitting on its Eastern border.
There is no guarantee whatsoever that the Palestinian Authority plans to live in peace with next door Israel.
Why should Israel be anxious to see Palestine as an independently recognized nation? What would it buy them?

 

[Dans La Lune]

I am unhappy with the death toll in Gaza. I think it went too far.

What would have been the appropriate amount of civilian atrocities against a defenseless concentration camp?

 

[Mr Person]

What would have been the appropriate amount of civilian atrocities against a defenseless concentration camp?

Israel does not agree with your belief that Hamas should be free to exterminate Jews without response. It is amazing that you think your extremist posts carve out a morally superior position.

Hell, the last tagline under your name declared that believing in the right of Israel merely to exist was "anti-semitism". I don't think we can expect anything sane.

Netanyahu has been calling for war with Iran for 30 years. Iran was never a threat, except as it relates to Israel's efforts to destabilize the region, steal land, and promote American imperialism. Iran has also never attacked another nation aggressively in over 200 years.

Iran was never a threat? Is that why the world celebrated when Obama negotiated the anti-nuke deal with Iran?



The problem isn't that Iran wasn't a threat. The problem is that the threat was contained, but Trump tore up Obama's deal, and that Israel's attacks may spark a wider war. But on the other hand, just like its proxy Hamas, Iran is openly committed to the destruction of Israel and extermination of all its Jews.




Now, that makes me wonder: why is it that you are so focused on defending only those entities that are sworn to destroy Israel and kill its Jews, overlooking every last fact and nuance about the situation?

 

[ColdHardTruth]

What would have been the appropriate amount of civilian atrocities against a defenseless concentration camp?

There is no sent amount that is appropriate. You have to keep in mind that Hamas imbeds themselves among civilians. They are partially to blame for what has been happening there.

 

[pedex]

There is no sent amount that is appropriate. You have to keep in mind that Hamas imbeds themselves among civilians. They are partially to blame for what has been happening there.

Hamas is an inevitable symptom.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Still wondering how exactly, ten million residents of Tehran central and 17 million in metro Tehran, are supposed to immediately evacuate Tehran?

They can't. There is no place they could go that could support that many people.

We couldn't do that, and our infrastructure is vast.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Hamas is an inevitable symptom.

Are you suggesting that the poor little angels in Hamas had no choice on October 7th?

I mean, yes, the Israelis acted like savages, but tell me with a straight face that Hamas was on rails and had no choice.

 

[JANFU]

Whataboutism.

Are you going to condemn Israel's targeting of journalists?

Of course I do

 

[Tigerace117]

Response to snakestretcher:

How very convenient of you to be able to sit from your high moral perch in Merry Old England, the greatest imperialist nation after the Roman Empire.
Americans fought to rid themselves of oppressive British rule starting in 1775. At the end of the Revolutionary War, America did not end up with an anti-American nation sitting on its Eastern border.
There is no guarantee whatsoever that the Palestinian Authority plans to live in peace with next door Israel.
Why should Israel be anxious to see Palestine as an independently recognized nation? What would it buy them?

Gee, how convenient for America its eastern border was ocean.

It certainly had anti American countries on its northern border when the war ended, as well as to the west, so your argument doesn’t hold up in the slightest.

 

[Tigerace117]

Are you suggesting that the poor little angels in Hamas had no choice on October 7th?

I mean, yes, the Israelis acted like savages, but tell me with a straight face that Hamas was on rails and had no choice.

Let’s be real here: even if Hamas was the most disciplined fighting force in human history that wouldn’t dream of looking at a civilian sideways, they’d still be vocally condemned by the West. There is no form of Palestinian resistance to Israel the West finds acceptable.

The Palestinians are basically the Plains Native Americans circa 1876.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Israel does not agree with your belief that Hamas should be free to exterminate Jews without response. It is amazing that you think your extremist posts carve out a morally superior position.

Israel doesn't represent Jews. That's antisemitic. According to international law, the occupier cannot claim self defense against those they occupy.

Hell, the last tagline under your name declared that believing in the right of Israel merely to exist was "anti-semitism". I don't think we can expect anything sane.

Zionism is analogous to Nazism, and creates massive antisemitism because people like you equate the actions of a right-wing genocidal government with Jewish identity. Its disgusting. You're disgusting.

Iran was never a threat? Is that why the world celebrated when Obama negotiated the anti-nuke deal with Iran?

Because the alternative is war. Here we are. Obama negotiated a measure of peace with Iran, which the neocons and Israelis did not want. This is because a legitimate Iran undermines Israeli regional dominance. Israel has been trying to pit the region against Iran using American power and influence as the wedge.

Now, that makes me wonder: why is it that you are so focused on defending only those entities that are sworn to destroy Israel and kill its Jews, overlooking every last fact and nuance about the situation?

It must be antisemitism. It's a difficult card to play at this stage, but you're welcome to play it. See where it gets you.

 

[NOLA Dude]

 

[Dans La Lune]

Are you suggesting that the poor little angels in Hamas had no choice on October 7th?

I mean, yes, the Israelis acted like savages, but tell me with a straight face that Hamas was on rails and had no choice.

The slave revolts were the inevitable result of slavery, and despite the atrocities, were foundational in abolition. They are looked back on as among the pillars of the movement.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Hamas is an inevitable symptom.

And we still don't know what really happened on October 7th. We know that the Israeli war / propaganda machine spun into full effect, spreading mass lies about what happened. To the Nth degree. Atrocities were indeed committed by Hamas and other Palestinian militants (there were about half a dozen different groups, some secular, some Islamic, some Christian). And atrocities were also committed by the Israelis using the Hannibal Directive, where they targeted their own people to prevent them from being captured.

 

[Fledermaus]

Israel doesn't represent Jews. That's antisemitic. According to international law, the occupier cannot claim self defense against those they occupy.



Zionism is analogous to Nazism, and creates massive antisemitism because people like you equate the actions of a right-wing genocidal government with Jewish identity. Its disgusting. You're disgusting.




Because the alternative is war. Here we are. Obama negotiated a measure of peace with Iran, which the neocons and Israelis did not want. This is because a legitimate Iran undermines Israeli regional dominance. Israel has been trying to pit the region against Iran using American power and influence as the wedge.



It must be antisemitism. It's a difficult card to play at this stage, but you're welcome to play it. See where it gets you.

You may wish to look up the definition.amd origin of the term Antisemitism.

 

[Dans La Lune]

There is no sent amount that is appropriate. You have to keep in mind that Hamas imbeds themselves among civilians.

Israel literally uses Palestinian civilians as human shields and booby-trap bait.

They are partially to blame for what has been happening there.

They are to blame for fighting back. They cannot be perfect victims. Israel killed and/or imprisoned their MLKs and Nelson Mandelas.

 

[Anthony60]

That would be a few Hamas militants; not the 50,000 dead civilian men, women and children slaughtered by Netanyahu's IDF. That's the cold, hard truth.

Nah, that's a cold, hard lie.

 

[Dans La Lune]

You may wish to look up the definition.amd origin of the term Antisemitism.

You mean the revised version that is designed to conflate the Israeli ethno-state with Jewish identity, or the actual definition?

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Israel literally uses Palestinian civilians as human shields and booby-trap bait.

So does Hamas.

They are to blame for fighting back. They cannot be perfect victims. Israel killed and/or imprisoned their MLKs and Nelson Mandelas.

This is nonsensical bullshit.

Hamas is a terrorist group.

 

[Fledermaus]

You mean the revised version that is designed to conflate the Israeli ethno-state with Jewish identity, or the actual definition?

I mean the definition and origin.

Just like I clearly stated.

 

[Mr Person]

They are to blame for fighting back. They cannot be perfect victims. Israel killed and/or imprisoned their MLKs and Nelson Mandelas.

Open support of Hamas now, eh? Hamas, the terrorist organization dedicated to destruction of Israel and extermination of all Jews. And here you are carrying their water.

And you call other things "anti-semitism"?

 

[Contumacious]

rganization dedicated to destruction of Israel and extermination of all Jews.

You know what is really funny

ALL >>>>>>JEWISH RELIGIOUS SECTS<<<<<<<<

ON THE FACE OF MOTHER EARTH WANT THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL AND THE EXTERMINATION OF the ASS-k-NAZI ZIONISTS

The Mizrahis, Hassidic , Naturei Karte

 

[Fledermaus]

You know what is really funny

ALL >>>>>>JEWISH RELIGIOUS SECTS<<<<<<<<

ON THE FACE OF MOTHER EARTH WANT THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL AND THE EXTERMINATION OF the ASS-k-NAZI ZIONISTS

The Mizrahis, Hassidic , Naturei Karte

No, they don't.

Stop lying.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Let’s be real here: even if Hamas was the most disciplined fighting force in human history that wouldn’t dream of looking at a civilian sideways, they’d still be vocally condemned by the West. There is no form of Palestinian resistance to Israel the West finds acceptable.

The Palestinians are basically the Plains Native Americans circa 1876.

There are a number of countries I don't care about, and there are a number of organizations I don't care about.

When I say care, I mean "I don't care what happens to them."

Hamas lost me a long time ago, but October 7th is a good example.

Then Israel's government lost me with the response.

Iran's regime lost me decades ago. Throwing gays off of buildings and hanging 16 year old girls from cranes for showing some ankle. Leaving aside the embassy.

So I will sit here and feel bad about the citizens of Iran, Israel, and Palestine, while hoping the organizations mentioned all catch a drone while they're taking a shit.