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[phoenix2020]

Nothing Trump said in his speech on Jan. 6 called for violence. On the contrary he called the people patriots and told them as they march to the Capitol which constitutionally they had every right to express their grievances to government, he told them to remain peaceful.
What Trump did lay out was the fraud. The very reason the electors were being challenged. And guess what is not being discussed now? The fraud that does exist in states to the level the state legislators felt compelled to send another set of electors for Trump because the amount of fraud they uncovered in their states weeks after the election would have altered the outcome of the election claiming their state election should never have been certified. And just when the joint session of Congress was separating to debate the challenge THE VERY FIRST STATE of Arizona all Hell broke out. What perfect timing. And from that time forward fraud was no longer the topic but the breach into the Capitol changing the entire narrative.

People are being identified and charged and it appears they belong to fringe groups on both sides of the aisle. They certainly do not represent the hundreds of thousands that attended the rally. Conservatives denounced the behavior of all the riots, looting, burning down cities over the Summer by BLM and leftist anarchist groups and they denounce the the breach of the Capitol as well. They are consistent .....the left not so much.


The first reports that a Capitol police officer was beaten to death by Trump protesters is now in question and as of today his family still did not know the cause of death, released a statement asking that his death not be used for political purposes. The officer left the Capitol on his own and later passed away. And while the left wants to claim all deaths that occurred in the Capitol that day as nefarious. others too had nothing to do with what occurred at the Capitol. But what one thing over the years I have learned the left with its many buddies in the MSM who are the third arm of the Democrat party, seek to concrete a narrative immediately that is political damning to their opponents.

Some of Vesper and Joko's friends, whose behavior they are trying to excuse in any way they can rationalize:

Capitol insurrectionists chant 'Hang Mike Pence!', vow to return to 'finish the job' - YouTube

I'm surprised they haven't run a "BUT BHENGAZI! BUT EMAILS!!!!" line yet but imagine we'll be there by Tuesday.

 

[joko104]

Some of Vesper and Joko's friends, whose behavior they are trying to excuse in any way they can rationalize:

Capitol insurrectionists chant 'Hang Mike Pence!', vow to return to 'finish the job' - YouTube

I'm surprised they haven't run a "BUT BHENGAZI! BUT EMAILS!!!!" line yet but imagine we'll be there by Tuesday.

Your message, predictably, is nothing but irrelevant personal attacks, attempts to derail to irrelevant topics and a lie about me personally.

I know no one who attended the Capital protest nor any other protest. I do not like any mob gatherings because mob mentality is no mentality and is dangerous accordingly. Just because mass gathering protesting is legal that does not mean I have to like or participate in mass gathering protests. I do not like being in large groups of people at all. I do not go the events with gobs of people such as sports games. About as large a crowd was at a movie theaters and theater plays - but those are dark, people are quiet and there is no collective interaction whatsoever. I will go to a mall - very rarely and just because the other person wants to.

I have often gone to political gathers: Hearing candidates debate or speak - in the past including Socialist Workers, Democratic and Republic, at campaigns headquarters. Political and campaign gatherings that are not protest gatherings, at union meetings and the break room as a union steward, political club meetings including being an officer, civil clubs where I have been an officer, and in a sense when it is just spontaneously discussing politics in a group setting such as our home or other location. But a mass protest rally - never have and never will. There is no situation - ever - that I would attend or participate in a mass gathering protest.

 

[vesper]

Some of Vesper and Joko's friends, whose behavior they are trying to excuse in any way they can rationalize:

Capitol insurrectionists chant 'Hang Mike Pence!', vow to return to 'finish the job' - YouTube

I'm surprised they haven't run a "BUT BHENGAZI! BUT EMAILS!!!!" line yet but imagine we'll be there by Tuesday.

WTH? I am not excusing bad behavior. That's a damn lie. Anyone who breached the Capitol illegally needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law just like I felt about every ****ing riot, looting and burning down of cities this past Summer across this country,,,,,,, what is your excuse ?

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[BlueTex]

 

[BlueTex]

 

[Slartibartfast]

new parler should try to have better moderation

 

[roguenuke]

You're wrong. How soon leftists forget the Kavanaugh hearing.

You mean like this:

The Resistance At The Kavanaugh Hearings: More Than 200 Arrests

Opponents of Kavanaugh's nomination don't have the votes to derail his confirmation, but protesters voiced their concerns at his hearing about a conservative majority's impact on the Supreme Court.

www.npr.org

Where the first 70 arrested were women basically just yelling out in court? Pretty sure that isn't part of anyone's definition of a riot.

Shout, arrest, repeat: Inside the Kavanaugh hearing protests

The Senate confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh have become the target of a coordinated activist campaign to disrupt the proceedings.

apnews.com

Oh, and look, they were arrested immediately and didn't have to be tracked back down after the fact.

Are you calling this a riot?

After Kavanaugh confirmation, protesters chant, pound on Supreme Court door

U.S. Capitol Police said a total of 164 people were arrested during the protests for "crowding, obstructing, or incommoding."

www.nbcnews.com

There have been more.

35 times Capitol Police arrested more demonstrators than the 14 insurgents arrested Wednesday

They have arrested more than 3,600 demonstrators since 2016.

www.motherjones.com

 

[roguenuke]

I’m not sure why that matters. The former were still on the grounds. The latter probably scattered.

Because the "former" were not allowed to leave until they were arrested. The latter were escorted out and released with few immediate arrests, despite shear number of people who had invaded. Those Kavanaugh protestors (along with protestors of repealing Obamacare or those protesting children being separated from parents at the border, and many more) weren't simply just escorted out the doors when they became trespassers by not leaving. They were arrested, some carried out. These Trump "protestors", rioters, terrorists overrun the police guarding the area, some beat an officer to death and injured dozens more, trampled to death one of their own, and at least some were looking to actually kill members of Congress and/or VP Pence. Yet they were simply asked to leave or escorted out and released.

 

[roguenuke]

Any death should be unacceptable regardless of the cause leading to it. When you focus on just an attempted coup to moralize over the deaths of people you make moralizing cheap.

We always classify some deaths as more or less acceptable than others. And this changes not only as a society, but also from individual to individual. We wouldn't have varying degrees of laws regarding murder if deaths weren't treated differently.

 

[roguenuke]

He put the wrong word in quotes there. "Patriots" should have been in quotes, not accountable.

 

[Slartibartfast]

If what I am reading about how the hack happened is true, then parler had a bad design that was going to be exploited the moment their MFA vendor had an outage anyway. Basically when MFA was down (MFA = the text you get when trying to log into banking sites that has a code you need to enter, basically) they were able to reset passwords because parler assumed success in that scenario.

The second failure point was that the iOS app had an API to list all users, including admin ones. Once they got in, they created thousands of new admin accounts with a script.

So combine the ability for anybody to reset passwords at will with knowing which accounts are the admin accounts and you get ...

This illegal and not good. As much as I don't like the insurrectionists, I don't like this either.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Its worse, the admins broke their own system...

 

[Rexedgar]

Nothing Trump said in his speech on Jan. 6 called for violence. On the contrary he called the people patriots and told them as they march to the Capitol which constitutionally they had every right to express their grievances to government, he told them to remain peaceful.
What Trump did lay out was the fraud. The very reason the electors were being challenged. And guess what is not being discussed now? The fraud that does exist in states to the level the state legislators felt compelled to send another set of electors for Trump because the amount of fraud they uncovered in their states weeks after the election would have altered the outcome of the election claiming their state election should never have been certified. And just when the joint session of Congress was separating to debate the challenge THE VERY FIRST STATE of Arizona all Hell broke out. What perfect timing. And from that time forward fraud was no longer the topic but the breach into the Capitol changing the entire narrative.

People are being identified and charged and it appears they belong to fringe groups on both sides of the aisle. They certainly do not represent the hundreds of thousands that attended the rally. Conservatives denounced the behavior of all the riots, looting, burning down cities over the Summer by BLM and leftist anarchist groups and they denounce the the breach of the Capitol as well. They are consistent .....the left not so much.


The first reports that a Capitol police officer was beaten to death by Trump protesters is now in question and as of today his family still did not know the cause of death, released a statement asking that his death not be used for political purposes. The officer left the Capitol on his own and later passed away. And while the left wants to claim all deaths that occurred in the Capitol that day as nefarious. others too had nothing to do with what occurred at the Capitol. But what one thing over the years I have learned the left with its many buddies in the MSM who are the third arm of the Democrat party, seek to concrete a narrative immediately that is political damning to their opponents.

I expect no less from you; you still think that Trump should be President. The old quote applies here, “One cannot be reasoned out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.”

....and look at who thinks your post is worthy............both sides?

 

[BlueTex]

If what I am reading about how the hack happened is true, then parler had a bad design that was going to be exploited the moment their MFA vendor had an outage anyway. Basically when MFA was down (MFA = the text you get when trying to log into banking sites that has a code you need to enter, basically) they were able to reset passwords because parler assumed success in that scenario.

The second failure point was that the iOS app had an API to list all users, including admin ones. Once they got in, they created thousands of new admin accounts with a script.

So combine the ability for anybody to reset passwords at will with knowing which accounts are the admin accounts and you get ...

This illegal and not good. As much as I don't like the insurrectionists, I don't like this either.

Did you read about how they approached deleting?

 

[roguenuke]

Nothing Trump said in his speech on Jan. 6 called for violence. On the contrary he called the people patriots and told them as they march to the Capitol which constitutionally they had every right to express their grievances to government, he told them to remain peaceful.
What Trump did lay out was the fraud. The very reason the electors were being challenged. And guess what is not being discussed now? The fraud that does exist in states to the level the state legislators felt compelled to send another set of electors for Trump because the amount of fraud they uncovered in their states weeks after the election would have altered the outcome of the election claiming their state election should never have been certified. And just when the joint session of Congress was separating to debate the challenge THE VERY FIRST STATE of Arizona all Hell broke out. What perfect timing. And from that time forward fraud was no longer the topic but the breach into the Capitol changing the entire narrative.

People are being identified and charged and it appears they belong to fringe groups on both sides of the aisle. They certainly do not represent the hundreds of thousands that attended the rally. Conservatives denounced the behavior of all the riots, looting, burning down cities over the Summer by BLM and leftist anarchist groups and they denounce the the breach of the Capitol as well. They are consistent .....the left not so much.


The first reports that a Capitol police officer was beaten to death by Trump protesters is now in question and as of today his family still did not know the cause of death, released a statement asking that his death not be used for political purposes. The officer left the Capitol on his own and later passed away. And while the left wants to claim all deaths that occurred in the Capitol that day as nefarious. others too had nothing to do with what occurred at the Capitol. But what one thing over the years I have learned the left with its many buddies in the MSM who are the third arm of the Democrat party, seek to concrete a narrative immediately that is political damning to their opponents.

There is video of Officer Sicknick being beaten and unconscious on the steps of the Capitol. And despite him having views that supported Trump, he appeared to have still been doing his duty and defending the Capitol.

And at least one of the other deaths occurred due to the actions of those storming the Capitol, as she herself was trampled/crushed while storming the Capitol. That wasn't some heart attack or stroke (which are the ones we simply don't know when they happened, but we don't know that they had nothing to do with what occurred, if a person has a heart attack or stroke while others are robbing a bank, they can still be charged with the person's death, held responsible). But at least 3 deaths and possibly this latest officer suicide (more info would be needed) could be blamed on the insurrection that happened.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Did you read about how they approached deleting?

Yup, it was a hide flag

Maybe it put it in queue to be deleted later?

 

[BlueTex]

Yup, it was a hide flag

Maybe it put it in queue to be deleted later?

Yep, all those “parleys” users were deleting are still there.

They also stored GPS location data.

 

[BlueTex]

There is video of Officer Sicknick being beaten and unconscious on the steps of the Capitol. And despite him having views that supported Trump, he appeared to have still been doing his duty and defending the Capitol.

And at least one of the other deaths occurred due to the actions of those storming the Capitol, as she herself was trampled/crushed while storming the Capitol. That wasn't some heart attack or stroke (which are the ones we simply don't know when they happened, but we don't know that they had nothing to do with what occurred, if a person has a heart attack or stroke while others are robbing a bank, they can still be charged with the person's death, held responsible). But at least 3 deaths and possibly this latest officer suicide (more info would be needed) could be blamed on the insurrection that happened.

Be sure to turn up the volume so you hear the “patriots”.
This one:

 

[Slartibartfast]

Be sure to turn up the volume so you hear the “patriots”.
This one:

shameful

 

[Slartibartfast]

Yep, all those “parleys” users were deleting are still there.

They also stored GPS location data.

Its all over Twitter, ycombinator, and reddit at this point. I am not seeing any news articles though. I am still skeptical.

 

[BlueTex]

Its all over Twitter, ycombinator, and reddit at this point. I am not seeing any news articles though. I am still skeptical.

It's going to take while to comb through it all..

 

[Overitall]

Fox News, Sinclair-owned media, conservative podcasts, conservative talk radio, Russia Today, Newsmax, OANN, Breitbart, Reddit, political forums like this one....

Keep in mind that public figures like Trump and Bannon still have national platforms and the ears of major media; and that Parler is getting hit not because it leans conservative, but because it does not lift a finger to stop its users from planning another attack on DC before the Inauguration.
If the only place your leaders are allowed to speak to you are forums that do not ban users who are actively plotting the violent overthrow of the federal government, then... what's that line about "the company you keep"?

There quite possibly are other platforms where the “leaders” of movements can speak but how many of them (such as the ones you cited in your first sentence) allows their followers the opportunity to speak back? This is more about the principle of freedom (or is that spelled fee-dom) of speech. For example:

Maxine Waters encourages supporters to harass Trump administration officials | CNN Politics

Rep. Maxine Waters called on her supporters to publicly confront and harass members of the Trump administration in response to the "zero tolerance" policy that led to the separation of families at the border.

www.cnn.com

Rep. Maxine Waters called on her supporters to publicly confront and harass members of the Trump administration

Whereas, I consider what Waters said inflammatory and could have possibly incited some in her audience to take the meaning of the word harass to an extreme I still support her freedom of speech to say it. When or if those who did take it to the extreme (heck for that matter what gives someone the right to harass anyone?) should we hold Waters responsible for their actions? If your answer is yes, then why is she still serving in Congress?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Well, Amazon is a private corporation. Parler can buy some servers and host their own stuff, or find a different host. Anyone that's unhappy about this can boycott Amazon and buy products elsewhere. Seems clear cut to me.

Why do I get the feeling that a lot of their users are going to be reluctant to rejoin after finding out about

THIS

PARLER DATABASES DISCLOSED - DOWNLOADED

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

If the only place your leaders are allowed to speak to you are forums that do not ban users who are actively plotting the violent overthrow of the federal government, then... what's that line about "the company you keep"?

 

[Taylor]

Companies

Be sure to turn up the volume so you hear the “patriots”.
This one:

Meh - Kamala Harris called driving over protestors and killing cops "essential" and "brilliant".