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It was telling that 278 of America's top corporations and municipalities were so worried about losing talented gay and lesbian workers that they filed briefs with the U.S. Supreme Court urging the justices to take the action they did: throwing out California's Proposition 8 and gutting the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).
Several of those companies were concerned about losing LGBT workers with foreign-born partners, prompting the companies to write a letter to Congress saying, "We cannot afford to lose our most precious resource: talent."
And that talent is apparently already being lost, due to an LGBT job flight that began even before the Supreme Court's rulings.
Brain drain in states barring gay marriage: Column
I have a master's degree and considerable experience in my field. My boyfriend has two master's degrees and considerable experience in his field. I have been really struggling to find reasons to remain in Florida especially as far as the long term for our relationship. We both would eventually like marriage and kids to be a part of our lives and that is very unlikely to happen in this state. In one sense I feel obligated to remain in Florida because this is where I earned my degree and started my career but on the other hand it feels like Florida doesn't really want us.
I'm a bit worried because I see other gay couples now pondering the same things and I am already seeing how this could have a compounded effect because once other gay people leave it incentivizes other gay people to do so as well and the community just sort of falls apart and the support goes with it. I'm sure the social conservatives are happy about it because they probably believe all the deviants, sinners, and perverts are leaving and therefore their state will suddenly prosper all the better but I don't think that is how it will pan out in reality. Also what does it say to the young gay folk who grow up in this state and have no choice but to stay here if people like myself leave?
In one sense I feel obligated to remain in Florida because this is where I earned my degree and started my career
I had considered moving to Texas because CA is so messed up financially, but because of Texas's bans on same-sex marriage (and what I assume to be a very homophobic culture to match) I will just have to stay here.
I doubt you are going to find a state that much more gay friendly than FL, particularly around Orlando and South Beach, and I doubt three master degrees moving away cannot be replaced by 3 masters degrees moving in or 3 masters degrees already there waiting to be promoted. Seems kind of silly to me. I have a JD/MBA and disagree with about 2/3's of what goes on in my state, but I have no desire to move to any other state, let alone for some fleeting political point nobody but you will care about in the end.
Can you explain this very odd sense of obligation you feel?
Simply because you went to school in Florida you feel obligated to stay there?????
What?
Good lord - extensive education should be a ticket to freedom - not chains and a lock.
Move your smart ass to some place where you'll be the happiest you can be. Life is far to short, and has far to many nasty aspects to it to not take any and every chance you can to increase your happiness.
Your allegiance and obligation should not be to some highly strange entity like a state.
I'm just so confused over that idea. Would love for you to explain why you might feel that way.
I imagine in big cities like Austin it is better. But Texas does have written in its constitution that marriage is limited to a man and a woman does it not? That seems like a pretty clear ban to me...There are no bans on same sex marriage here in Texas, they just aren't recognized yet. The climate here, at last in the big cities is not hostile
I doubt you are going to find a state that much more gay friendly than FL, particularly around Orlando and South Beach, and I doubt three master degrees moving away cannot be replaced by 3 masters degrees moving in or 3 masters degrees already there waiting to be promoted. Seems kind of silly to me. I have a JD/MBA and disagree with about 2/3's of what goes on in my state, but I have no desire to move to any other state, let alone for some fleeting political point nobody but you will care about in the end.
I went to a state school. I couldn't afford many of the costs but my school went out of their way to help me several times so that I could finish my degree. Part of what the school was trying to do was keep high skilled workers in the state. So it is is more of a commitment to my old school than the state I guess.
I imagine in big cities like Austin it is better. But Texas does have written in its constitution that marriage is limited to a man and a woman does it not? That seems like a pretty clear ban to me...
I had considered moving to Texas because CA is so messed up financially, but because of Texas's bans on same-sex marriage (and what I assume to be a very homophobic culture to match) I will just have to stay here.
A constitutional amendment limiting marriage to a man and a woman is a ban on same sex marriage--a constitutional ban, actually, even worse than a statutory one. What exactly are you defining as a ban?No that isn't a ban, some states have a ban. same sex marriage is simply not recognized yet.
I agree things will change in Florida - but if he wants to marry his b/f before that happens, moving is probably a good idea. Marrying somewhere else and coming back to Florida may cause his marriage not to be recognized even by the federal govt (I think they're still working through that). And of course if they later want to divorce, that gets tricky in a state that doesn't recognize their marriage.
So this may be worth moving for.
A constitutional amendment limiting marriage to a man and a woman is a ban on same sex marriage--a constitutional ban, actually, even worse than a statutory one. What exactly are you defining as a ban?
That seems like a pretty absurd semantic argument to me. A statute doesn't need to say "same-sex marriage is banned" to ban same-sex marriage. If I passed a law saying the only soda that could be sold was Pepsi, I would effectively be banning Coke and all other types of soda from being sold. By explicitly limiting marriage to one man and one woman in the constitution itself, Texas is clearly banning same-sex marriage and all other types of marriage. Which is why virtually any resource discussing same-sex marriage in the 50 states will list Texas as having a ban on same-sex marriage.A statute that states that it is banned
People that think that two men or two women getting married is going to cause their marriage to end or mean less aren't very bright. Most of these people are fixated on anal sex. They fitting realize that what makes a person gay isn't the desire to have anal sex, everybody has an anus so if it was about butts there would be no gay people if it was all about analsex.
It really boils down to ignorance. Look at the anti SSM arguments here on this page. All from pure ignorance.
Calm down.WTF? This was post #3. There was no anti-SSM arguments in the first two posts. Were you predicting? Or did you forget a link?
Added: I've now been through all post up to this one. I haven't found one anti-SSM post.
That seems like a pretty absurd semantic argument to me. A statute doesn't need to say "same-sex marriage is banned" to ban same-sex marriage. If I passed a law saying the only soda that could be sold was Pepsi, I would effectively be banning Coke and all other types of soda from being sold. By explicitly limiting marriage to one man and one woman in the constitution itself, Texas is clearly banning same-sex marriage and all other types of marriage. Which is why virtually any resource discussing same-sex marriage in the 50 states will list Texas as having a ban on same-sex marriage.
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