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Boehner says 'unemployed' Trump 'has nothing else to do' but 'cause trouble' (4/12/21)

Conservative said:
Comments like yours are an embarrassment to the education system. Growth in percentage is irrelevant, as 2% growth on 14 trillion isn't the same as 2% growth on 18 trillion. Trump's growth difference of 400 billion dollars per year over Obama was 1.2 TRILLION in three years. I am embarrassed for you
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I don't care what you think is embarrassing.
Of course it matters. It just doesn't to you for what I stated
 
Plasmaball said:
I don't care what you think is embarrassing.
Of course it matters. It just doesn't to you for what I stated
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Then why do you have no pride in yourself and post such garbage? Such hatred over a President who did no harm to you or your family and in fact put America first so maybe that is what bothers you
 
Conservative said:
I am so sorry that your education didn't teach you how to do research or even read basic economic data. You going to explain how Trump's 900 billion dollars vs Obama's 500 billion dollars per year GDP dollar growth is the same because the percentage change is the same

So you didn't get a tax cut?? That makes you one of the 46% of income earning Americans who don't pay FIT
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I did not say anything of what you want me to say. Take your srawman and stick it soemwhere else (and you contunue to exclude the 2020 year).

And you are not even aware of what a GDP growth as a percentage is.

You can have the SAME GDP growth as a percentage from the GDP of the PRECEDING year but different dollar values in the end of a time period because you are too stupid to realize that GDP grows over time and the same percentage applies to increasingly higher numbers which will give a higher number of dollars.

And your coment about tax cuts also has nothing to do with my point. If you are telling me that in 2009 after the end of the offival recessio you were ready to consume like you did in Trump''s years, I will have to assume that you do not own a house or a 401K or an IRA because people who own such assets understand that their wealth was still wayy down EVEN AFTER THE OFFICIAL END OF THE RECESSION in 20009 and such realization affects how much people are willing to spend! You would not spend the same dollar amount to refinance and renovate houses and you would be more willing to put more money aside to replenish 401Ks (especially if you had to take out money during the recession and your losses were locked).
 
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pamak said:
I did not say anything of what you want me to say. Take your srawman and stick it soemwhere else (and ou contunue to exclude the 2020 year).

And you are not even aware of what a GDP growth as a percentage is.

You can have the SAME GDP growth as a percentage from the GDP of the PRECEDING year but different dollar values in the end of a time period because you are too stupid to realize that GDP grows over time and the same percentage applies to increasingly higher numbers which will give a higher number of dollars.
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Apparently I have no idea what GDP Growth is because 500 billion seems to be less than 900 billion but apparently that isn't true and the difference of 1.2 trillion dollar growth didn't happen, interesting. The time period I gave you in the spreadsheet showed yearly change and then average for the time period listed, do you need someone to assist you in calculating the math? In your former country do you spend percentage change? In this country it is dollars
 
Conservative said:
Then why do you have no pride in yourself and post such garbage? Such hatred over a President who did no harm to you or your family and in fact put America first so maybe that is what bothers you
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Lol look at you punting with this nonsense.
 
Conservative said:
Apparently I have no idea what GDP Growth is because 500 billion seems to be less than 900 billion but apparently that isn't true and the difference of 1.2 trillion dollar growth didn't happen, interesting. The time period I gave you in the spreadsheet showed yearly change and then average for the time period listed, do you need someone to assist you in calculating the math? In your former country do you spend percentage change? In this country it is dollars
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Apparently, you have no idea how a consistent percentage change over a GDP of many trillions can actually lead over time to different amounts of billions. You better learn the value of the US GDP in trillions and you may realize what I am saying. And again, you do not compare Obama's term to Trump;s term when you exclude the years of Trump''s term that do not fit your agenda. Nor do you account for the massive increaee of national debt. Nor do you account for the population increase, and so on....
 
pamak said:
Apparently, you have no idea how a consistent percentage change over a GDP of many trillions can actually lead over time to different amounts of billions. You better learn the value of the US GDP in trillions and you may realize what I am saying. And again, you do not compare Obama's term to Trump;s term when you exclude the years of Trump''s term that do not fit your agenda. Nor do you account for the massive increaee of national debt. Nor do you account for the population increase, and so on....
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What is quite telling is how those percentages actually led to 4 trillion dollars over 8 yeas for Obama and 2.7 trillion dollars for Trump over 3. You aren't going to answer the question are you showing nothing but typical liberal partisanship, bias and propaganda. What is it about socialism that creates people like you and why don't you tell us what socialist policies have been successful in your state of California that you want the rest of the nation to adopt?

Socialist have no problem with debt so why is that even an issue for you? My bet is it isn't, just more hot air
 
pamak said:
Apparently, you have no idea how a consistent percentage change over a GDP of many trillions can actually lead over time to different amounts of billions. You better learn the value of the US GDP in trillions and you may realize what I am saying. And again, you do not compare Obama's term to Trump;s term when you exclude the years of Trump''s term that do not fit your agenda. Nor do you account for the massive increaee of national debt. Nor do you account for the population increase, and so on....
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Oh, by the way, from April 2008 to January 2017 apparently there was no population growth as only 6 million new jobs were created and apparently the population boom started again in January 2017 helping Trump create almost 7 million NEW jobs in 3 years.
 
Conservative said:
Didn't forget at all that you didn't respond to the post of Biden lies nor do you care. Trump's massive history is a figment of your imagination
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Are you saying that I DID NOT reply to your post about Biden's lies or is your use of words above a typo? I responded TWICE saying that Biden should not be lying. You're memory is becoming an issue when you can't recall two of my posts from today?

You're also saying that Trump didn't lie? Really?

You're also saying that if Trump did lie it doesn't matter because of his "results"? Really?
 
Conservative said:
What is quite telling is how those percentages actually led to 4 trillion dollars over 8 yeas for Obama and 2.7 trillion dollars for Trump over 3. You aren't going to answer the question are you showing nothing but typical liberal partisanship, bias and propaganda. What is it about socialism that creates people like you and why don't you tell us what socialist policies have been successful in your state of California that you want the rest of the nation to adopt?

Socialist have no problem with debt so why is that even an issue for you? My bet is it isn't, just more hot air
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What is interesting is that you do not actually try to compare Obama's term to Trump';s terms (4 years vs 3 years) and you have never addressed any of my points.
 
jakiejakester said:
Are you saying that I DID NOT reply to your post about Biden's lies or is your use of words above a typo? I responded TWICE saying that Biden should not be lying. You're memory is becoming an issue when you can't recall two of my posts from today?

You're also saying that Trump didn't lie? Really?

You're also saying that if Trump did lie it doesn't matter because of his "results"? Really?
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I don't think at this point it really matters what you think about Trump and those supposed lies, Biden is in the Oval Office or at least that is where he is supposed to me. I wonder when he is going to act like a President and protect our borders? I wonder who it is going to fund the liberal spending programs that he is proposing? I wonder when people like you are going to actual reconcile liberal results with the rhetoric
 
Conservative said:
Oh, by the way, from April 2008 to January 2017 apparently there was no population growth as only 6 million new jobs were created and apparently the population boom started again in January 2017 helping Trump create almost 7 million NEW jobs in 3 years.
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Another strawman since I never claimed that population growth did not exist under Obama. What I am saying is that GDP in absolute numbers ALWAYS reflect to some extend the ABSOLUTE number of population, so GDP comparisons in absolute numbers must also account for such difference. There is no doubt that population during Trump's term was higher than the population during Obama's term and this difference is generating billions of additonal dollars in Trump's economy. And notice that this was just ONE of the points I made.
 
pamak said:
Another strawman since I never claimed that population growth did not exist under Obama. What I am saying is that GDP in absilute numbers ALWAYS reflect to some extend the ABSOLUTE number of population, so GDP comparisons in absolute numbers must also account for such difference. There is no doubt that population during Trump's term was higher than the population during Obama's term and this difference is generating billions of additonal dollars in Trump's economy.
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If population growth did occur under Obama where are the results. What you continue to say is percentage change trumps dollar growth so answer the question, do you spend percentage change or dollar growth? Is it percentage change or dollar growth that funds personal and gov't expenses? You going to ever answer the direct question about what liberal/socialist programs do you want to see this country adopt that have been successful in California? Homelessness, Illegals, Poverty doesn't seem to resonate with you
 
Conservative said:
So you didn't get a tax cut?? That makes you one of the 46% of income earning Americans who don't pay FIT
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Huh? I didn't get a tax cut because I lost my deduction for SALT. I paid more and I pay a lot of FIT. Your statement is inaccurate and who cares?
 
Conservative said:
If population growth did occur under Obama where are the results. What you continue to say is percentage change trumps dollar growth so answer the question, do you spend percentage change or dollar growth? Is it percentage change or dollar growth that funds personal and gov't expenses? You going to ever answer the direct question about what liberal/socialist programs do you want to see this country adopt that have been successful in California? Homelessness, Illegals, Poverty doesn't seem to resonate with you
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What I am saying is that population under Obama was LOWER than the population under Trump since there is a constant population growth over years. And this population difference creates also more billions in tthe economy during Trump's years compared to Obama's years. The same point would exist in favr of Obama when one wants to make a HONEST comparison of the GDP in ABSOLUTE numbers during his term and during Bush's term.
 
jakiejakester said:
Huh? I didn't get a tax cut because I lost my deduction for SALT. I paid more and I pay a lot of FIT. Your statement is inaccurate and who cares?
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LOL, so I was paying Higher federal taxes because of lower state and local taxes to deduct from my federal return?? About damn time the cost of liberalism hit you in the pocketbook
 
pamak said:
What I am saying is that population under Obama was LOWER than the population under Trump since there is a constant population growth over years. And this population difference creates also more billions in tthe economy during Trump's years compared to Obama's years. The same point would exist in favr of Obama when one wants to make a HONEST comparison of the GDP in ABSOLUTE numbers during his term and during Bush's term.
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Seems with population we would have had more than 6 million new jobs created in 9 years how can that be with liberal economic policies? Nice diversion and typical liberal diversion from reality. Think those 8-9 million part time jobs for economic reasons employees were happy with Obama? Now keep dodging, bobbing, weaving and ignoring reality
 
Conservative said:
Seems with population we would have had more than 6 million new jobs created in 9 years how can that be with liberal economic policies? Nice diversion and typical liberal diversion from reality. Think those 8-9 million part time jobs for economic reasons employees were happy with Obama? Now keep dodging, bobbing, weaving and ignoring reality
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You do not know how many of the jobs that existed under Obama and how many of the billions in Obama's GDP was the result of natural population growth .There is no diversion. The point was raised pages ago and AGAIN it was ONE of the things I said. Bigger populations means more billions in absolute numbers for the economy. The diversion is all the BS you type about CA....
 
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Conservative said:
LOL, so I was paying Higher federal taxes because of lower state and local taxes to deduct from my federal return?? About damn time the cost of liberalism hit you in the pocketbook
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You have it in reverse.. Blue states subsidize the poor people in red states because they earn way lower minimum wages which put them below the federal threshold of poverty and make them eligible for more federal assistance.
 
pamak said:
You do not know how many of the jobs that existed under Obama and how many of the billions in Obama's GDP was the result of natural population growth .There is no diversion. The point was raised pages ago and AGAIN it was ONE of the things I said. Bigger populations means more billions in absolute numbers for the economy. The diversion is all the BS you type about CA....
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apparently those jobs due to natural population growth were part time jobs for economic reasons. It is stunning your support and loyalty to failed social and economic problems.
 
Boehner has a book to sell and he's doing it well. That's all I have to say about him.
 
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