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Blowing Smoke: Obama Climate Speech Riddled With Lies

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By Dr. Tim Ball and Tom Harris
6/26/2013


President Barack Obama’s naïve and error-riddled speech at Georgetown University on Tuesday clearly demonstrated that he is serious about trying to stop global climate change. However, like the tide, climate change is a natural event of such proportions that it is largely unaffected by human activities. Obama ignores that the “official climate science” on which he bases America’s climate and energy policies has been washed away by 17 years without global warming, despite atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) — the gas Obama blames for rising temperatures — continuing to increase primarily due to the emissions of China and India.


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PJ Media » Blowing Smoke: Obama Climate Speech Riddled With Lies

"In foisting many of the same policies on America that have already failed in Europe, the president appears to be counting on U.S. media to continue to hide the significance of Climategate and the recent halt in planetary warming". Keep moving folks nothing to see here. Obama will calm and lower the seas and while he's at it stop the use of coal, nuclear and all types of fuel in America unless Americans are ready to pay higher and higher costs. See what gasoline and diesel fuel is costing Americans today compared to what Americans paid before Obama was elected and then re-elected.
 

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Obama cannot even get Harry Reid under control, so I doubt he is going to be able to get Mother Nature to sit down for a microbrewed cold one let alone get her to stop bitch slapping him.
 

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Obama cannot even get Harry Reid under control, so I doubt he is going to be able to get Mother Nature to sit down for a microbrewed cold one let alone get her to stop bitch slapping him.
Well someone is doing Obama's bidding. If it isn't Reid could it be Schumer?
 

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Well someone is doing Obama's bidding. If it isn't Reid could it be Schumer?
It is the other way around. Obama is doing Reid's bidding.
 

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Lets parse the silly lying editorial wolf posted (does he post any other kind?). First, when you call somebody a liar, you should document what they said and document why it’s a lie. Wolf’s ‘editorial’ only uses hyperbole to claim man made climate change is a lie so anything President Obama says is a lie. For instance:

“However, like the tide, climate change is a natural event of such proportions that it is largely unaffected by human activities. “

Mmmm, wasn’t it just a few short years (or weeks) that climate change itself was a hoax. Now it seems the narrative has changed to its just natural and not caused by man. Lets continue.

“Obama ignores that the “official climate science” on which he bases America’s climate and energy policies has been washed away by 17 years without global warming, despite atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) — the gas Obama blames for rising temperatures — continuing to increase primarily due to the emissions of China and India.”

Well enough with the hemming and hawing, the editorial just decides to lie. “ 17 years without global warming” seems to be just the latest in a long list of republicans lies. And they just seem to get bigger and more ridiculous.

“NASA scientists say 2012 was the ninth warmest of any year since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures. With the exception of 1998, the nine warmest years in the 132-year record all have occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the hottest years on record.” “
NASA - NASA Finds 2012 Sustained Long-Term Climate Warming Trend

(cue the lying conservative hyperbole about Nasa)

And don’t you just like the way even if CO2 did cause global warming its really India and China’s fault. And that’s just another lie (but cons don’t care because they want to believe it). China is the top emitter. We are number 2

“Emissions by Country
In 2008, the top carbon dioxide (CO2) emitters were China, the United States, the European Union, India, the Russian Federation, Japan, and Canada. “
Global Emissions | Climate Change | US EPA


“As ICSC policy advisor Lord Christopher Monckton just showed, the study that backs this claim is fatally flawed. “

Sorry Monckton proves nothing. And since he proves nothing he has to dazzle us with what an 11th century Iraqi philosopher said or what somebody said in 1860. Real studies don’t have to make their case with quotes. Oh and Nasa says he’s a liar too.

“Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.”

Climate Change: Consensus
 

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I see wolf has chosen to post yet another lying editorial about Benghazi rather than deal with the lying editorial he posted here. What would cons do without lying editorials?
 

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yea, my state is screwed if Obama's "climate control" bull goes through
 

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New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism


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July 27, 2011


NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

"The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."


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New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

There are discrepancies about the issue and there have already been proven hoaxes found that show that Al Gore and Obama both are blowing smoke up you know where.
 

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New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism


Forbes
James Taylor
July 27, 2011


NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

"The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."


[Excerpt]

Read more:
New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

There are discrepancies about the issue and there have already been proven hoaxes found that show that Al Gore and Obama both are blowing smoke up you know where.
This sort of thing shows why a little bit of science in an idiot's hand is a bad thing. It also shows why calling things global warming instead of pollution is causing problems. We have a problem with our air quality. It is getting worse. We see very real problems of pollutants. These things are not getting better, they are getting worse as we advance into more industry. We have large populations of the world just starting to get industrial like the first world. The populations and need for resources of people just getting into our new technology era dwarf those who are already in it. Whether or not you think the world is going to end from this is irrelevant. There is a reality we already face that pollution is becoming problematic to our health and survival.

Since you appreciate science you should be aware that pollutants become more concentrated as you move up the food chain. Since we are on top that is bad for us. If our soil becomes spoiled to where we cannot grow non-toxic food in it anymore we have a real problem. if you do not want to believe in global warming, I don't blame you. You should believe in the effects of pollution making your food and water contaminated with crap, or perhaps a lot more expensive to produce. Those effects are very real and we are already seeing them as a result of our use of things like fossil fuels.
 

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“Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.”

Climate Change: Consensus

That's amazing. All of those people are saying and doing on the job what their employer is telling them to say and do on the job.

I bet that's the only profession in which this surprising activity goes on.
 

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Science denialists are hilarious.


Idiots, like Obama are sadly tragic.

While he is planning and implementing the worst energy and economic plans in the history of the republic, the world moves forward and does so in direct opposition to his stated goals.

More than 1200 coal fired power plants will be built in the upcoming years. China and India will bring another on line every week for the next five years alone.

Obama's attempt to distract from the most corrupt and inept administration in history will have no impact on Carbon production. This policy, like his Failed Stimulus, Failed Foreign Policy, Failed Post Race and Post Partisan rhetoric will also fail.

It makes little difference, though, as the Climate, unlike Obama, does not react to Carbon emissions. History will reveal that the first Black President's greatest achievement was getting elected.

It's a shame that in order to get real news, we need to source a foreign organization. There was a time when our domestic organizations had real integrity and ethics. Now they just have political affiliations and kick backs.

More than 1,000 new coal plants planned worldwide, figures show | Environment | The Guardian
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Coal plants are the most polluting of all power stations and the World Resources Institute (WRI) identified 1,200 coal plants in planning across 59 countries, with about three-quarters in China and India. The capacity of the new plants add up to 1,400GW to global greenhouse gas emissions, the equivalent of adding another China – the world's biggest emitter. India is planning 455 new plants compared to 363 in China, which is seeing a slowdown in its coal investments after a vast building programme in the past decade.
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This sort of thing shows why a little bit of science in an idiot's hand is a bad thing. It also shows why calling things global warming instead of pollution is causing problems. We have a problem with our air quality. It is getting worse. We see very real problems of pollutants. These things are not getting better, they are getting worse as we advance into more industry. We have large populations of the world just starting to get industrial like the first world. The populations and need for resources of people just getting into our new technology era dwarf those who are already in it. Whether or not you think the world is going to end from this is irrelevant. There is a reality we already face that pollution is becoming problematic to our health and survival.

Since you appreciate science you should be aware that pollutants become more concentrated as you move up the food chain. Since we are on top that is bad for us. If our soil becomes spoiled to where we cannot grow non-toxic food in it anymore we have a real problem. if you do not want to believe in global warming, I don't blame you. You should believe in the effects of pollution making your food and water contaminated with crap, or perhaps a lot more expensive to produce. Those effects are very real and we are already seeing them as a result of our use of things like fossil fuels.



The EPA was formed in about 1970. There is an equivalent agency to this in every state in the union.

Our land, air and water is cleaner today than it was in 1950 and that is improving. Due largely to the policies of Obama which has shut down much of industry and stopped millions from driving to work, our Carbon emissions in the USA are below those of 1993. Obama's dream is coming true.

How clean is clean? At what point do you think we should say we are clean enough, let's try to create jobs?
 

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By Dr. Tim Ball and Tom Harris
6/26/2013


President Barack Obama’s naïve and error-riddled speech at Georgetown University on Tuesday clearly demonstrated that he is serious about trying to stop global climate change. However, like the tide, climate change is a natural event of such proportions that it is largely unaffected by human activities. Obama ignores that the “official climate science” on which he bases America’s climate and energy policies has been washed away by 17 years without global warming, despite atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) — the gas Obama blames for rising temperatures — continuing to increase primarily due to the emissions of China and India.


(Excerpt)

Read more:
PJ Media » Blowing Smoke: Obama Climate Speech Riddled With Lies

"In foisting many of the same policies on America that have already failed in Europe, the president appears to be counting on U.S. media to continue to hide the significance of Climategate and the recent halt in planetary warming". Keep moving folks nothing to see here. Obama will calm and lower the seas and while he's at it stop the use of coal, nuclear and all types of fuel in America unless Americans are ready to pay higher and higher costs. See what gasoline and diesel fuel is costing Americans today compared to what Americans paid before Obama was elected and then re-elected.
I guess unlike you, Obama understands that scientists are the most reliable source of information on this topic .
 

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That's amazing. All of those people are saying and doing on the job what their employer is telling them to say and do on the job.

I bet that's the only profession in which this surprising activity goes on.
so your spin is that they are just saying what they are told to say. But then if they are saying it and that means Monckton is lying. So the editorial wolf posted is lying. see the problem when you try to create your own lying narratives. anyhoo, you shouldn't assume all people are weak and easily manipulated like cons. I understand why you think that but its still wrong. At least we agree that 97 % of climate scientists say its real and man made.
 

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Examples?
Well the mother of them all was the insurance mandates. Obama opposed them, but Reid supported them and "just couldn't" get it passed without them.
 

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NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.
Er uh wolf, you’re jumping the gun there buddy. The original republican lie is that global warming is a hoax. The current republican lie is that the earth is warming but its natural. The future republican narrative will be “okay, its real and man made but wont be as bad as predicted”. And I hope the climate scientists quoted in the Forbes editorial are right but why did you chose to believe them? I thought all climate scientists are liars. And Spencer’s data was used for a decade to claim global warming was a hoax. At least now he acknowledges it real.

Anyhoo, since you jumped the gun with the future republican narrative, do you admit that your first ‘editorial’ was lying?
 

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Er uh wolf, you’re jumping the gun there buddy. The original republican lie is that global warming is a hoax. The current republican lie is that the earth is warming but its natural. The future republican narrative will be “okay, its real and man made but wont be as bad as predicted”. And I hope the climate scientists quoted in the Forbes editorial are right but why did you chose to believe them? I thought all climate scientists are liars. And Spencer’s data was used for a decade to claim global warming was a hoax. At least now he acknowledges it real.

Anyhoo, since you jumped the gun with the future republican narrative, do you admit that your first ‘editorial’ was lying?


Global Warming - NASA Scientist Dr. Hansen caught again, page 1


Global Warming - NASA Scientist Dr. Hansen caught again, page 1

Global Warming - NASA Scientist Dr. Hansen caught again, page 1. go. Pages: 1 2 >> ATS Members have flagged this thread 0 times. ... NASA Scientist caught lying
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Lying, cheating climate scientists caught lying, cheating again ...

Lying, cheating climate scientists caught lying, cheating again – Telegraph Blogs

Oct 30, 2011 · Oh dear. I really didn't want my first blog post in a week to be yet another one about global bloody warming. Problem is, if those lying, cheating clim
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IPCC Lead Author Caught Lying On ABC News Video | Real Science

IPCC Lead Author Caught Lying On ABC News Video | Real Science

... a senior research scientist at the ... 21 Responses to IPCC Lead Author Caught Lying On ... warning signs of man made global warming? these anthropological ...

The fact that these so-called scientists have been caught falsifying information has no basis for you to change your mind.
 

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Okay, on the carbon dioxide being emitted into space, that is still testimony that there is a vast increase in CO2 concentrations. People think, "Oh, if record high CO2 is being released, then CO2 isn't a big deal." Wrong. CO2 is being released because:

A) The atmosphere cannot trap all the CO2. It is trapping some, but the concentrations are going to level out at a maximum concentration over time.
B) There has been enough time for the CO2 to travel at through the stratosphere.

Another thing. People do not think about other possibilities when they think about what is going on. Here is another example. Ocean temperatures are recorded to be dropping and people opposed to global warming say this is evidence that there isn't global warming. But they aren't taking into account that records amount of ice is melting. As the volume of the oceans increase, the oceans are able to absorb more heat resulting in lower ocean temperatures. This is why it is dangerous for average americans to be making conclusions about global warming and not trusting the scientific community that studies the various processes that contribute to global warming. They are too dumb to think about all that is going on. The logic is too simplistic for the complexities that Gaia has to offer.

It's just frustrating. All we do is go to work, take care of what needs to be done at home and with the kids, and with exhaustion of energy we consume entertainment at an alarming portion. We do not education ourselves about various topics that we vote on, simply because we don't have the time, or if we do, we would rather mentally masterbate by means of electronics. This scares me. People with their own interests will get what they want, while millions of people and the environment suffer.

Just go on your library's databases and research global warming studies. There is vast amount of evidence. As we eliminate more species on this planet, it turns out that there is a correlation between that and temperature regulation throughout the planet. As the planet heats up, there are less mechanisms to stabilize the temperature, or the mechanisms are not as effective. Increases in CO2 have been discovered to increase the concentration of certain bacteria or microbes in the soil, thereby increasing the CO2 emissions.

Last but not least, I read an article describing evidence that there was indeed more CO2 present before the last iceage, which is believed to be the reset button so to speak on temperature (ice ages make the planet reach temperature homeostasis). Whether or not we are contributing to CO2 emissions increasing, the fact is putting more CO2 is going to intensify and speed up the process of the next ice age. Climatologists are predicting around 2100 intense changes will be happening to the environment.

All the while, we bitch and moan about spending money on curbing the emissions, or providing better education to all Americans etc. while we build complexes to spy on Americans that cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

Money and power takes all precedence over anything else.
We are going to let this remain as we are content with our consumption of entertainment.
We are screwed unless people decide to get behind a movement and reform policies of our government. That is the first step, then it is about tackling the various issues that plague our country.
 

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sorry wolf, your new lying editorials do nothing about the fact that your 2nd editorial proved your first editorial was lie. Are we going to discuss the contradictory editorials you posted or are you just going to mindlessly post more lying editorials? no need to answer.

And why do you think you have post blogs and editorials? because you cant use facts. When you call somebody a liar, you post what they said and prove why its a lie. You continue to post editorials that assure us people are lying. remember the first editorial you posted in this thread. It assured us President Obama was lying. Sadly but not surprisingly, it was lying.
 

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sorry wolf, your new lying editorials do nothing about the fact that your 2nd editorial proved your first editorial was lie. Are we going to discuss the contradictory editorials you posted or are you just going to mindlessly post more lying editorials? no need to answer.

And why do you think you have post blogs and editorials? because you cant use facts. When you call somebody a liar, you post what they said and prove why its a lie. You continue to post editorials that assure us people are lying. remember the first editorial you posted in this thread. It assured us President Obama was lying. Sadly but not surprisingly, it was lying.


Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our ...


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Then explain the above. According to you there are no lies as long as Progressives say it's so.
 

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Then explain the above. According to you there are no lies as long as Progressives say it's so.
You're missing the point. You keep posting editorials that assure us people are lying. In addition to me proving your first editorial was lying, you proved your first editorial is lying. See how you don't want to discuss that. You just keep posting more editorials. And Sen Inhofe saying somebody is lying is just like all your other editorials: he assures us they are lying. It doesn't prove it. again, your editorials only prove your determination to believe lies. Hey remember how your 'editorials' assured us President Obama was born in Kenya and his BC was a fake. at what point do you realize that you are being lied to?

97 % of climate scientists say global warming is real and man made. 1000s of lying editorials cant make that fact go away.
 

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You're missing the point. You keep posting editorials that assure us people are lying. In addition to me proving your first editorial was lying, you proved your first editorial is lying. See how you don't want to discuss that. You just keep posting more editorials. And Sen Inhofe saying somebody is lying is just like all your other editorials: he assures us they are lying. It doesn't prove it. again, your editorials only prove your determination to believe lies. Hey remember how your 'editorials' assured us President Obama was born in Kenya and his BC was a fake. at what point do you realize that you are being lied to?

97 % of climate scientists say global warming is real and man made. 1000s of lying editorials cant make that fact go away.
So you claim that IPCC junk science is a fact when it's been disproved time and time again?
 
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