Bill Bennett:aborting black babies would lower crime

[ALiberalModerate]

ROFL hardly. They would still be Republicans.



There is no "if" about it, Republicans fought for and voted overwhelmingly for the Civil Rights act while Democrats opposed it.



Who have they denied?



I tell you what, you ask me what I think and then I will tell you, if you believe you know what I think and that is what you will argue against then I can just sit back and watch as you type both sides. But what I think is certainly not as you would try to frame it as your own arguements go down in flames.



Born in Tennesse raised in and still live in Alabama with family in Arkansas and having spent quite a bit of time in Arkansas. My Grandfather was quite well known in the state.



The race issue being what issue? And cite some examples of bills.



Except for the race part which had nothing to do with it.

Stinger, we will just have to agree to disagree here. At least we were both by the grace of God lucky enough to be born southerners.

Anyway, I posed the U.S. census poverty tables to back up my assertions on poverty rates durring the Clinton years falling every year all the way down to a record low, then poverty rates rising every year that Bush has been in office.

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/pover...v/hstpov2.html

To say that Bush has a lower poverty rate in his 5th year than Clinton did is intellectually dishonest, because Clinton had reduced the poverty rate for every year while Bush started with the record low during the Clinton years and it has risen every year since.

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

If the Republicans are such a party of civil rights and racial inclusion, then why is it, that your party, the party in power in all three branches of Federal Government, will not put the money and resources behind one African American to get them elected to Congress?

Isn't the test not the color of the man's skin but the shape of his ideas?

While you may have a perfectly valid point here, what you need to do is find the cases where black candidate that supported the Republican platform was rejected over a white candidate that did not.

Alternately, and yeah I know this information isn't accessible, but you should try to find black GOP candidates who were rejected in favor of whites by the RNC even though projections at the time indicated the black candidate had a higher chance of defeating the Democrat.

This kind of data is PROOF. Mere absence of melanin on a ticket is not conclusive.

On the other hand, it's pretty clear that politicians like Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee, to name two, are elected because of their skin color and the loud incoherent noises they make. If South Central Los Angeles is any indication, Waters has been a total disaster for black Americans.

And don't go pinning racist labels on me. I voted for Alan Keyes in two presidential primaries. And that was on the grounds that his ideas were what mattered.

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

Johnson reduced the poverty rate in half in just 4 years with his Great Society programs.

That's misleading. With Jim Crow, before the Great Society, black families were intact, young black males were taught a solid work ethic, and the inner cities weren't devastated by crime and drugs.

After the Great Society, the black family is practically gone, unwed and single black mothers is the norm, a sense of entitlement stifles self-reliance, and gang violence and drug trafficking have reduced black neighborhoods to war zones.

And yeah, I blame it on the government's "Great Society". Effect follows cause.

 

[Navy Pride]

I personally would like to see a complete reform in the welfare system where the only people that get assistance acctually get it......I have a friend who is a mail carrier and he has been delivering a welfare check to the same mail box for 3 generations...

Unwed mothers should not be rewared with more money for having more babies.....

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Isn't the test not the color of the man's skin but the shape of his ideas?

While you may have a perfectly valid point here, what you need to do is find the cases where black candidate that supported the Republican platform was rejected over a white candidate that did not.

Alternately, and yeah I know this information isn't accessible, but you should try to find black GOP candidates who were rejected in favor of whites by the RNC even though projections at the time indicated the black candidate had a higher chance of defeating the Democrat.

See I don’t think its some overt racism on the part of the Republican Party. Instead, I think the problem is that the policies that Republicans advocated, and the Party Platform, are not at all attractive to the vast majority of African Americans. That is the problem. If you want to get more black votes, you have to realize that it is the party platform that would have to be moderated to get those votes. Democrats targeted black votes in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, by pushing a platform that was attractive to black candidates and voters because it addressed the issues that black candidates and voters are concerned about. Republicans targeted white southerners during that time by baiting them with affirmative action, making false and misleading characterizations that affirmative action could result in disaffected white southerners loosing their jobs or their children not getting into college because of it. They also kowtow to Bob Jones University and argue for flying the Confederate Flag in Southern Statehouses even though the Confederate Flag is understandably like a swastika to African Americans. Strom Thurman and Jesse Helms were both Democrats who vehemently opposed Civil Rights legislation, and during the Civil Rights era, they jumped ship to the GOP.

The bottom line is that it’s the little things that Republican do when pandering to white southerners that keep the majority of Blacks from voting for them. It’s the little key phrases they use in speeches like when they talk about “States Rights”. It’s the way they go after affirmative action, but say nothing about rich mans version of the same thing that gives big donor’s kid’s preference in attending Universities.

[FONT=&quot]And in light of all of that, the worst thing Republicans then do is call the Democratic Party racist. By doing that, the insinuation to Blacks is that they are either to stupid to know any better than to vote Democrat, or that they are such deadbeats, than they only vote Democrat because they think that Democrats will let them live off of the government. If Republicans want Black votes, then they need to really examine their own party platform and accept that there is something wrong with it, or they would get more of the Black vote. [/FONT]

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

I personally would like to see a complete reform in the welfare system where the only people that get assistance acctually get it......I have a friend who is a mail carrier and he has been delivering a welfare check to the same mail box for 3 generations...

Unwed mothers should not be rewared with more money for having more babies.....

Oh, hell. Those people don't deserve a dime of public money.

The government's not supposed to spend tax dollars on charity.

 

[DeeJayH]

my personal opinion of why the black are poor and have such problems with life in general is so many of their 'leaders' keep casting them as victims, instead of trying to help raise them up
why is it, throughout history jews have been decimated by others. Yet they keep pulling it back together, and have a low crime rate, have a low abortion rate, have a strong family unit, etc...
it is the mentality they are embued with growing up
Blacks are raised to believe 'The man is keeping them down'
which in part was very true, and in part is still true to a much lesser degree
but blacks have every oppurtunity anybody else in this country has.
But they allow gangs to own the streets they live on
Many of them are raised to believe there are only a few ways out of poverty
Sports, Music or Gangs. And when those routes fail, they fall into despair and dependency
It is the breakdown of the family unit that has wreaked havoc on the black community
Where are the Black Leaders of the Past that cared about raising up the people more than their own power

 

[ALiberalModerate]

That's misleading. With Jim Crow, before the Great Society, black families were intact, young black males were taught a solid work ethic, and the inner cities weren't devastated by crime and drugs.

After the Great Society, the black family is practically gone, unwed and single black mothers is the norm, a sense of entitlement stifles self-reliance, and gang violence and drug trafficking have reduced black neighborhoods to war zones.

And yeah, I blame it on the government's "Great Society". Effect follows cause.

I am writing this in bold because I really want to hammer home a point here. To all you guys in the Republican Party who are not racists and not bigoted, and you just can’t understand why hardly any Blacks vote Republican.

This guy and his response here is exactly why they don’t. He represents a significant voice in your party when he says that with JIM CROW, blacks were better off than they are now.

 

[Stinger]

Poverty rates were falling before welfare was cut (I agree with cutting it).

Johnson reduced the poverty rate in half in just 4 years with his Great Society programs.

Really

The wel-fare reform act was signed on Aug. 22 1996, pledging to retract it as he signed it and later at the nominating convention again running on his pledge to turn it over and get rid of it.

Now go here: http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/04statab/income.pdf

And tell me why you claim poverty was on a downward trend before he signed, against his will, the welfare reform act.

Or just look at these numbers from the Cenus buruea

Sorry tables don't past correctly but it's Individuals first group Families second and you can see the rates

2003...... 287,699 35,861 12.5 238,903 25,684 10.8
2002...... 285,317 34,570 12.1 236,921 24,534 10.4
2001...... 281,475 32,907 11.7 233,911 23,215 9.9
2000 12/.. 278,944 31,581 11.3 231,909 22,347 9.6
1999 11/.. 276,208 32,791 11.9 230,789 23,830 10.3
1998...... 271,059 34,476 12.7 227,229 25,370 11.2
1997...... 268,480 35,574 13.3 225,369 26,217 11.6
1996...... 266,218 36,529 13.7 223,955 27,376 12.2
1995...... 263,733 36,425 13.8 222,792 27,501 12.3
1994...... 261,616 38,059 14.5 221,430 28,985 13.1
1993 10/.. 259,278 39,265 15.1 219,489 29,927 13.6
1992 9/... 256,549 38,014 14.8 217,936 28,961 13.3
1991 8/... 251,192 35,708 14.2 212,723 27,143 12.8
1990...... 248,644 33,585 13.5 210,967 25,232 12.0



And when Johnson sign the Great Society bill, actually the Economic Opportunity Act, the poverty rate had been falling for a number of years from 20.8% in 1959 to 15.8% in 1965 the year it went into effect.

Again I ask where do you get this stuff?

 

[Scarecrow Akhbar]

See I don’t think its some overt racism on the part of the Republican Party. Instead, I think the problem is that the policies that Republicans advocated, and the Party Platform, are not at all attractive to the vast majority of African Americans. That is the problem. If you want to get more black votes, you have to realize that it is the party platform that would have to be moderated to get those votes.

You'll have to get specific here. I know of no overt or covert racist planks in the Republican platform.

Moderated how? What part of "equal opportunity" do the blacks not understand?

Democrats targeted black votes in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, by pushing a platform that was attractive to black candidates and voters because it addressed the issues that black candidates and voters are concerned about.[\quote]

Yes, they've been playing the race card at every opportunity. Look at the recent nonsense about the government's slow response to the Katrina disaster being racist.

This has been the Democrat campaign strategy in a nutshell:

1) Republicans are racist.
2) We'll give you money.
3) Republicans are racist.
4) We'll protect black employment and contract quotas.
5) Republicans are racist.
6) You don't have to do anything for yourself, it's racist to even suggest it.
7) Republicans are racist.

Note the NAALCP anti-Bush ads in 2000 involving that Texas truck dragging incident as just one example.

Republicans targeted white southerners during that time by baiting them with affirmative action, making false and misleading characterizations that affirmative action could result in disaffected white southerners loosing their jobs or their children not getting into college because of it.

What do you mean, "false"? Affirmative Action is nothing except reverse racism. People not in the preferred minority are denied access to college, to jobs, to loans, solely on the basis of their heritage. Affirmative Action institutionalizes racism to combat institutionalized racism. Racism isn't a forest fire, and all that tactic does is preserve racism.

I say the if the blacks want independence and self-reliance, they'll stop voting for parties that promise them a lifetime of servitude and denigration.

 

[Stinger]

Oh, hell. Those people don't deserve a dime of public money.

The government's not supposed to spend tax dollars on charity.

Let's phrase this correctly

Oh hell. Those people don't deserve a dime of someone else's hard earned money.

The government's not supposed to spend other peoples hard earned money by giving it to people who otherwise could earn their own.

 

[Stinger]

I am writing this in bold because I really want to hammer home a point here. To all you guys in the Republican Party who are not racists and not bigoted, and you just can’t understand why hardly any Blacks vote Republican.

This guy and his response here is exactly why they don’t. He represents a significant voice in your party when he says that with JIM CROW, blacks were better off than they are now.

No that is not what he said at all and you know it. What he said was

"That's misleading. With Jim Crow, before the Great Society, black families were intact, young black males were taught a solid work ethic, and the inner cities weren't devastated by crime and drugs."

Now on those points the solid work ethic, and inner cities that weren't devestarte by crime and drugs, is he factually correct or not?

"After the Great Society, the black family is practically gone, unwed and single black mothers is the norm, a sense of entitlement stifles self-reliance, and gang violence and drug trafficking have reduced black neighborhoods to war zones."

And on those points, since the Great Society was inacted, that the black family is practically gone, unwed and single motherhood is the norm, the sense if entitlement stifles sel-reliand and gang violend and drugs, is he factually correct or not?

And then of course the question is why and what do we do about it. The Democrats propose more of the same, is that prudent?

 

[cnredd]

I am writing this in bold because I really want to hammer home a point here. To all you guys in the Republican Party who are not racists and not bigoted, and you just can’t understand why hardly any Blacks vote Republican.

This guy and his response here is exactly why they don’t. He represents a significant voice in your party when he says that with JIM CROW, blacks were better off than they are now.

The problem with this post is that there are no Republicans that "can't understand why hardly any Blacks vote Republican"...we all know the reason...

When you have politicians that continue to give entitlements to keep them in check, and when you have groups like the NAACPETCPWDTLU snug firmly in one political party's grip, Republicans know full well what they're up against...

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Really

The wel-fare reform act was signed on Aug. 22 1996, pledging to retract it as he signed it and later at the nominating convention again running on his pledge to turn it over and get rid of it.

Now go here: http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/04statab/income.pdf

And tell me why you claim poverty was on a downward trend before he signed, against his will, the welfare reform act.

Or just look at these numbers from the Cenus buruea

Sorry tables don't past correctly but it's Individuals first group Families second and you can see the rates

2003...... 287,699 35,861 12.5 238,903 25,684 10.8
2002...... 285,317 34,570 12.1 236,921 24,534 10.4
2001...... 281,475 32,907 11.7 233,911 23,215 9.9
2000 12/.. 278,944 31,581 11.3 231,909 22,347 9.6
1999 11/.. 276,208 32,791 11.9 230,789 23,830 10.3
1998...... 271,059 34,476 12.7 227,229 25,370 11.2
1997...... 268,480 35,574 13.3 225,369 26,217 11.6
1996...... 266,218 36,529 13.7 223,955 27,376 12.2
1995...... 263,733 36,425 13.8 222,792 27,501 12.3
1994...... 261,616 38,059 14.5 221,430 28,985 13.1
1993 10/.. 259,278 39,265 15.1 219,489 29,927 13.6
1992 9/... 256,549 38,014 14.8 217,936 28,961 13.3
1991 8/... 251,192 35,708 14.2 212,723 27,143 12.8
1990...... 248,644 33,585 13.5 210,967 25,232 12.0



And when Johnson sign the Great Society bill, actually the Economic Opportunity Act, the poverty rate had been falling for a number of years from 20.8% in 1959 to 15.8% in 1965 the year it went into effect.

Again I ask where do you get this stuff?

Poverty rate in 1993 13.6%
Poverty rate in 1995 12.3%

As you can see, the poverty rate was falling before the welfare reform act was passed.

Now as to the Great Society:

Poverty Rate in 1964 17.4%
Poverty Rate in 1968 10.4%

7 percentage points in only 4 years which is the fastest drop in the poverty rate in American History, and the poverty rate has never since risen to as high as it was before the Great Society. You may have valid ideological disputes with the idea of the great society programs, but they have to a large extent worked.

Nixon had a war on poverty as well and basically extended upon some of the Great Society Programs

Poverty Rate by 1972 9.7%.

The Great Society included the following programs:

Medicare
Medicaid
Federal Aid to Education
Immigration Reform
Environmental and Consumer Protections
The Creation of HUD
The Creation of the DOT
As well as the National Endowment for the Arts and Humanities
Food Stamps
Head Start
Model Cities and other reforms

All Americans have benefited or will at some point in their lives benefit from one or more of those programs.

Since 1965 the federal government has provided more than a quarter of a trillion dollars in 86 million college loans to 29 million students, and more than $14 billion in work-study awards to 6 million students. Today nearly 60 percent of full-time undergraduate students receive federal financial aid under Great Society programs and their progeny.

Prior to the Great Society, only 41 percent of Americans had completed high school; only 8 percent held college degrees. This past year, more than 81 percent had finished high school and 24 percent had completed college.

Prior to Medicare, the majority of the elderly had no health insurance at all.

Welfare did not start under Johnson; instead, it was started during the 1930s.

LBJ called the welfare system in America "outmoded and in need of a major change" and pressed Congress to stop conditioning welfare benefits on the man leaving the house and to create "a work incentive program, incentives for earning, day care for children, child and maternal health, and family planning services.” At the time, both Conservatives and Liberals resisted any changes.

 

[scottyz]

The problem with this post is that there are no Republicans that "can't understand why hardly any Blacks vote Republican"...we all know the reason...

When you have politicians that continue to give entitlements to keep them in check, and when you have groups like the NAACPETCPWDTLU snug firmly in one political party's grip, Republicans know full well what they're up against...

And they know the easiest way to bring more black folks into the party is to have other Repubicans say things that will offend black people! Genius!

 

[aquapub]

What Bennet said is true. Blacks make up only 12% of our population, yet they commit 72% of the crimes.

Beside that, pro-abortionists have used the argument for years that abortion is justified because it prevents a lot of poor people from existing, and would therefore reduce crime dramatically. It is a reprehensible "ends justify the means" argument, but it is true...

Commiting genocide against blacks, poor people, and liberals would all but eliminate crime according to the statistics.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

What Bennet said is true. Blacks make up only 12% of our population, yet they commit 72% of the crimes.

Beside that, pro-abortionists have used the argument for years that abortion is justified because it prevents a lot of poor people from existing, and would therefore reduce crime dramatically. It is a reprehensible "ends justify the means" argument, but it is true...

Commiting genocide against blacks, poor people, and liberals would all but eliminate crime according to the statistics.

You know, I am very glad that you are Republican. I really hope that you identify yourself as a Republican and tell everyone you meet just what you have written on here. Make sure that you always tell them, after you tell them that you are a Republican, that while it would be wrong, " Committing genocide against blacks, poor people, and liberals would all but eliminate crime according to the statistics."

Please, just stand behind your convictions, don't candy coat your words at all, and tell everyone one you ever see on the street just that.

In fact, I call on all Republicans to stand behind your convictions and tell everyone that you are a Republican and exactly what Aquapub just wrote. Please do, in fact, I bet I could get some left leaning organizations to pay for your travel so you could tell as many Americans as possible especially if you could get the word out sometime in the weeks just prior to November 2006.

 

[DeeJayH]

1) Republicans are racist.
2) We'll give you money.
3) Republicans are racist.
4) We'll protect black employment and contract quotas.
5) Republicans are racist.
6) You don't have to do anything for yourself, it's racist to even suggest it.
7) Republicans are racist.

BING-freaking-O

the lies spread by Dems/Libs which the black leaders have taken advantage of, and re-enforced the idea to garner their own power
Hell, even Nagin was a Republican until he decided to run for public office
In order to get elected in New Orleans he changed to Democrat

The dems have the black vote because they promise to give them everything they need to be ok
yet they fail to deliver blacks from poverty, even with a record surplus:roll:
the Reps do not have the black vote, yet, because we preach self reliance, and our message to the blacks is manipulted by the black power structure to maintain their stranglehold on power in the community


AS to the Great Society Programs.......It was an utter failure
there is still vast poverty and crime
throw all the money you want at it, some people will always be poor due to poor life decisions

• education is the only out, Ebonics was a horrendous idea that would keep the disadvantaged under the thumb
• being able to speak English articulately, and a 2nd or 3rd language would be better
• having a marketable job skill other than slinging crack on the corner

 

[DeeJayH]

You know, I am very glad that you are Republican. I really hope that you identify yourself as a Republican and tell everyone you meet just what you have written on here. Make sure that you always tell them, after you tell them that you are a Republican, that while it would be wrong, " Committing genocide against blacks, poor people, and liberals would all but eliminate crime according to the statistics."

Please, just stand behind your convictions, don't candy coat your words at all, and tell everyone one you ever see on the street just that.

In fact, I call on all Republicans to stand behind your convictions and tell everyone that you are a Republican and exactly what Aquapub just wrote. Please do, in fact, I bet I could get some left leaning organizations to pay for your travel so you could tell as many Americans as possible especially if you could get the word out sometime in the weeks just prior to November 2006.

aquapub said BASED ON THE STATISTICS
debate the statistics all you want, not the reasonble conclusions drawn from them
You may want to read the book FREAK-O-NOMICS by an award winning scientist
it is what Bennet was referring to when he made the comment
He was just stating what was already said in the above mention book
the conclusion will never be done, much less condoned by any reasonable person
but the majority of Abortion on demand is done by the POOR
the overwhelming majority of Crime is done by the Poor

 

[douglas4123]

And thanked the Republicans who fought the Democrat filibusters, all three of them, and finally got it passed.



"Odds" they place upon themselves.



Then why are there so many successful blacks?




And what specifically do you believe the problem is and how is it to be solved?



And that is factually incorrect. The Republicans by far voted overwhelmingly for the civil rights and voting rights legislation while the Democrats fought to block both.




Not based on civil rights and he would probably have opposed affirmative action with it's race based policies.

I like how you say that Democrats were the ones fillibustering, the record for longest fillibuster is held by Strom Thurmond A REPUBLICAN, and it was over civil rights.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

aquapub said BASED ON THE STATISTICS
debate the statistics all you want, not the reasonble conclusions drawn from them
You may want to read the book FREAK-O-NOMICS by an award winning scientist
it is what Bennet was referring to when he made the comment
He was just stating what was already said in the above mention book
the conclusion will never be done, much less condoned by any reasonable person
but the majority of Abortion on demand is done by the POOR
the overwhelming majority of Crime is done by the Poor

Do the statistics say that all criminals are liberal??? The guy is a hatemongering biggot.

First, when we had those record surpluses during the nineties, the poverty rate dropped every year Clinton was in office.

The Great Society brought on the fastest and largest drop in the poverty rate in our nations history. No programs before or since have been as successful. By the way, the welfare reform of the ninties (which I think was long due) was first proposed by LBJ as part of the great society. Liberals and Conservatives at the time rejected it.

Finally, Bingo. My point all along. The problem with high abortion rates and high crime rates is not Blacks, its poverty and ignorance. That is the root of the problem. As poverty rates fell in the nineties, abortion rates went down. As poverty rates have increased since Bush took office, abortion rates have increased as well. If locking people up were the solution to crime, then with the highest per capita prison population of any industrialized nation on earth, it would have worked by now. Until we address as a society the poverty and ignorance in our society again like we did in the 50s, 60s, and into the Nixon Adminstration, then we are not going solve those problems.

The point of the Great Society, the Fair Deal, and the New Deal along with Nixon's anti-poverty measures was not a hand out, it was a leg up. If you want to do something about poverty and ignorance, you have to make some investments in society to prime the pump.

Since the beginning of civilization, up until the New Deal, we tried the strictly "individual responsibility" way. It did not work. I am not saying that big government is the answer to everything, but I am saying that you have to make investments as a society in a societies future in order to progress. In order to progress, we have to realize that we have a responsibility to each other as well as just ourselves.

There will always be poverty in America. There will always be a very small segment of the population who is just unwilling to try to better themselves. However, right now we have the highest poverty rate of any modern industrialized nation on Earth. We can do better.

 

[Hoot]

I'm a liberal...at least since the way I saw republicans act when Clinton was in office, but that's another story...

I don't think anything Bennet said was racist and it certainly does not deserve an apology.

I think the problem is, alot of listeners are not used to hearing an intelligent man speak....the guy qualified his statement by saying it was "morally reprehensible."

That should settle it for anyone with a high school education, or above...I cannot believe the outcry over this?!

 

[DeeJayH]

Do the statistics say that all criminals are liberal??? The guy is a hatemongering biggot.

First, when we had those record surpluses during the nineties, the poverty rate dropped every year Clinton was in office.

The Great Society brought on the fastest and largest drop in the poverty rate in our nations history. No programs before or since have been as successful. By the way, the welfare reform of the ninties (which I think was long due) was first proposed by LBJ as part of the great society. Liberals and Conservatives at the time rejected it.

Finally, Bingo. My point all along. The problem with high abortion rates and high crime rates is not Blacks, its poverty and ignorance. That is the root of the problem. As poverty rates fell in the nineties, abortion rates went down. As poverty rates have increased since Bush took office, abortion rates have increased as well. If locking people up were the solution to crime, then with the highest per capita prison population of any industrialized nation on earth, it would have worked by now. Until we address as a society the poverty and ignorance in our society again like we did in the 50s, 60s, and into the Nixon Adminstration, then we are not going solve those problems.

The point of the Great Society, the Fair Deal, and the New Deal along with Nixon's anti-poverty measures was not a hand out, it was a leg up. If you want to do something about poverty and ignorance, you have to make some investments in society to prime the pump.

Since the beginning of civilization, up until the New Deal, we tried the strictly "individual responsibility" way. It did not work. I am not saying that big government is the answer to everything, but I am saying that you have to make investments as a society in a societies future in order to progress. In order to progress, we have to realize that we have a responsibility to each other as well as just ourselves.

There will always be poverty in America. There will always be a very small segment of the population who is just unwilling to try to better themselves. However, right now we have the highest poverty rate of any modern industrialized nation on Earth. We can do better.

the Great Society was/is a failure
think what you want
throw as much money as you want at it
but until people, of all races in poverty, take responsibility for their lot in life
poverty will always exist, no matter what we do to help them
some cant be helped
others dont want to be helped
and to hell with both of those groups because they live off of the government handouts
the rest, take the help and get back on track and move on with their lives
as it should be

as far as the high poverty rate. TOO BAD
we have a much lower UNEMPLOYMENT RATE which is much more important and relevant
the only reason others poverty rates are not so high is because of their socialistic cradle to grave entitlements
They dont have 'poverty' because the tax the hell out of the working class and give the losers of the country a comfortable living without working for it

If you dont work, you dont eat. PERIOD
if you fall on hard times, the government has programs to get you back on track
but we do not support you for life. Make your own life

 

[wrath]

I'm a liberal...at least since the way I saw republicans act when Clinton was in office, but that's another story...

I don't think anything Bennet said was racist and it certainly does not deserve an apology.

I think the problem is, alot of listeners are not used to hearing an intelligent man speak....the guy qualified his statement by saying it was "morally reprehensible."

That should settle it for anyone with a high school education, or above...I cannot believe the outcry over this?!

Nor can any other rational person. I suspect that Bennet would use another example (ANY other example) of something that is morally reprehensible if he had it to do over again. I wish he had said "white babies" as (for some reason) far fewer people would take it out of context.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

the Great Society was/is a failure
think what you want
throw as much money as you want at it
but until people, of all races in poverty, take responsibility for their lot in life
poverty will always exist, no matter what we do to help them
some cant be helped
others dont want to be helped
and to hell with both of those groups because they live off of the government handouts
the rest, take the help and get back on track and move on with their lives
as it should be

as far as the high poverty rate. TOO BAD
we have a much lower UNEMPLOYMENT RATE which is much more important and relevant
the only reason others poverty rates are not so high is because of their socialistic cradle to grave entitlements
They dont have 'poverty' because the tax the hell out of the working class and give the losers of the country a comfortable living without working for it

If you dont work, you dont eat. PERIOD
if you fall on hard times, the government has programs to get you back on track
but we do not support you for life. Make your own life

For all of you who say that Blacks were better off before the Great Society:

Prior to Johnson's Great Society, with all of its programs including Affirmative Action, the poverty rates for blacks was 56%.

Yes folks, thats right, prior to the Great Society, 56% black Americans lived in third world poverty conditions.

Today, the poverty rate for Blacks is 22%.