Biden to host George Floyd's family next week on anniversary of his death

[Steve N]

Is it ok to murder someone if you call them names? If I call you names, is it ok for someone to murder you? How ****ing horrible are you? It was a literal murder on tape, and you still side with it?

And another response that doesn’t address the topic and is trying to put me on defense.

 

[skeptic llc]

It should be ridiculously easy to not just say that all lives matter but that specific lives matter.

Plus it's not like they believe in ALM anyway. If this pandemic has proven anything, it's that that claim is off by at least 500,000.

Yep. I do not know what is wrong with these people, but when I am not throwing punches here they just make me sad. Some values are supposed to be universal.

 

[Steve N]

It should be ridiculously easy to not just say that all lives matter but that specific lives matter.

Plus it's not like they believe in ALM anyway. If this pandemic has proven anything, it's that that claim is off by at least 500,000.

Ok, specific lives matter. Which ones? Name all the lives that matter.

 

[j-mac]

No, you didn't. You gave the quippy "all lives matter" response, which is a deliberate deflection away from the VERY specific question as to whether Black Lives Matter.

I'm going to ask you one more time. A deflection, whataboutism, or conditional qualification will be taken as a No. Yes or No, do Black Lives Matter?

I believe that all lives matter, Black, White, Aisian, Hispanic, and so on. Now, if any one from any of those groups meets his, or her demise through their own stupidity, that is on them.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Ok, I think all reasonable people on this board will fess up and say Floyd was a career criminal, a drug addict and an abuser of women. Regardless, Harris told Floyd's family he was a hero and now Biden is inviting them to the White House. Why?

Doesn't Biden know that Chauvin's case is still winding it's way through the court system via the appeals process? Wouldn't a better use of Biden's time be spent on praising the cops who save lives and prevent crime rather than honoring a person who essentially lead criminal life?

I sort of hope the meeting with Biden and Floyd's family is televised in its entirety because who knows what insults Biden might hurl at them. With his history there's a very good chance Biden will say something racist or insensitive, it's his nature, just ask Harris because she 'was that little girl.'.

A career criminal, a drug addict and yes, even an abuser of women, still deserves due process under the law, yes or no?
Or are police officers entitled to be judge, jury and executioner in your world?

 

[Phys251]

Ok, specific lives matter. Which ones? Name all the lives that matter.

Steve, who refuses to play defense, STILL cannot unconditionally admit that Black Lives Matter.

 

[VySky]

What's on the menu?

 

[Phys251]

I believe that all lives matter, Black, White, Aisian, Hispanic, and so on. Now, if any one from any of those groups meets his, or her demise through their own stupidity, that is on them.

Except we're not talking about someone who chooses to earn a Darwin Award. We're talking about people such as Philando Castille and Breonna Taylor, who were murdered by the police. Did their lives matter, yes or no? You still have not properly answered the question!

 

[skeptic llc]

Ok, how about this. Should Floyd’s family be welcomed at the White House by a guy whose own VP said is racist?

And what you call smears the rest of the world calls facts.

OHHHH I see where you are coming from. You (mysteriously) have obtained all these negative supposed fun facts about a particular murder victim -- not things you know about your president, congressperson, mayor, or anyone else, but you are shockingly "informed" about this one person a cop murdered -- and now, based on your curious interest in finding negative things to say about that murder victim who happens to be black (just a coincidence, you're no racist!), you want to make sure his family members do not set foot in the White House. Just as you conducted background checks on every other person who was invited to the White House ever, I'm sure. Can you give me similar background info on, say, the military vets who get medals, the sports stars who meet the president, the congressional staff who wander the halls of the white house, or anyone else? Or is it just the black family who lost a loved one to a murdering cop that you want to scrutinize?

 

[j-mac]

It should be ridiculously easy to not just say that all lives matter but that specific lives matter.

Plus it's not like they believe in ALM anyway. If this pandemic has proven anything, it's that that claim is off by at least 500,000.

Ah, so not one person should have died from a novel viral pandemic eh? Perfection is your standard? We’re you against Trumps China travel ban early on?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

But to your point, black lives matter just as much as white, yellow and red lives, but I doubt you'll accept that.

That is the core meaning OF the phrase "black lives matter", which by the way predates the 2013 genesis of the brand name group by that name....by about four hundred years.
So let's just assume that the BLM™ group doesn't even exist and settle the matter by agreeing that "black lives matter TOO", because the phrase has never meant that black lives matter MORE.

BUT I DOUBT YOU'LL ACCEPT THAT

 

[Phys251]

Ah, so not one person should have died from a novel viral pandemic eh? Perfection is your standard? We’re you against Trumps China travel ban early on?

There it is. The deflection. 500,000 lives do not matter to that one, who obviously does not believe that Black Lives Matter.

You have confirmed my point. Have a pleasant day, and take some time to reflect on your mistakes.

 

[skeptic llc]

That is the core meaning OF the phrase "black lives matter", which by the way predates the 2013 genesis of the brand name group by that name....by about four hundred years.
So let's just assume that the BLM™ group doesn't even exist and settle the matter by agreeing that "black lives matter TOO", because the phrase has never meant that black lives matter MORE.

BUT I DOUBT YOU'LL ACCEPT THAT

omg this is too ****ing awesome. TY CS.

 

[VySky]

Steve, who refuses to play defense, STILL cannot unconditionally admit that Black Lives Matter.

I'm confused why blacks aren't considered part of 'all'. Most people know what the definition of 'all' is. If not, the term would be some lives matter, then you may have a gripe

 

[skeptic llc]

Ah, so not one person should have died from a novel viral pandemic eh? Perfection is your standard? We’re you against Trumps China travel ban early on?

It seems like you are very very reluctant to acknowledge some lives matter. And you keep trying to change the subject. This is not hard. For example, I can freely acknowledge that your life matters. There, done.
Why is it so hard for you to do the same for people who are not your color? What is going on in your brain that makes this complicated?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

OHHHH I see where you are coming from. You (mysteriously) have obtained all these negative supposed fun facts about a particular murder victim -- not things you know about your president, congressperson, mayor, or anyone else, but you are shockingly "informed" about this one person a cop murdered -- and now, based on your curious interest in finding negative things to say about that murder victim who happens to be black (just a coincidence, you're no racist!), you want to make sure his family members do not set foot in the White House. Just as you conducted background checks on every other person who was invited to the White House ever, I'm sure. Can you give me similar background info on, say, the military vets who get medals, the sports stars who meet the president, the congressional staff who wander the halls of the white house, or anyone else? Or is it just the black family who lost a loved one to a murdering cop that you want to scrutinize?

It's just the black family who lost a loved one to a murdering cop that @Steve N wants to scrutinize.

 

[skeptic llc]

I'm confused why blacks aren't considered part of 'all'. Most people know what the definition of 'all' is. If not, the term would be some lives matter, then you may have a gripe

Same reason that ALM people oppose BLM. ALM logically includes BLM, so ALM people should embrace BLM ... but they don't. It's all just about whether one believes black lives are being valued less than others right now.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

career criminal, a drug addict and an abuser of womem.

Hrmm. Sounds an awful lot like Trump, with his Adderal addiction and whatnot.

Is Biden meeting Jr. and Ivanka?

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Are you that embarrassed by Biden’s actions?

No.

I find the actions of racist Trump supporters to be far more embarrassing to our country.

 

[skeptic llc]

It's just the black family who lost a loved one to a murdering cop that @Steve N wants to scrutinize.

I'm pretty sure if a cop murdered my loved one, I would not be interested in hearing some jackass recite the criminal history, if any, of that loved one. But just as they are on the side of child rape these days, Rs are apparently going with being for murder too. How ****ing depraved can a party get? Seriously, do they have no values or human emotions or connections at all?

 

[VySky]

Same reason that ALM people oppose BLM. ALM logically includes BLM, so ALM people should embrace BLM ... but they don't. It's all just about whether one believes black lives are being valued less than others right now.

How would value be displayed?

 

[Fletch]

You did not answer the question.

Ill answer that stupid question. Black lives matter only when they are taken by white cops. If they OD, die in gang violence or are murdered by other blacks, no one on the left gives a ****.

 

[Steve N]

Steve, who refuses to play defense, STILL cannot unconditionally admit that Black Lives Matter.

Look at this. I’m being questioned by a person who refuses to address the topic, wants to deflect, and has an avatar of a woman who called Biden a racist.

 

[Steve N]

A career criminal, a drug addict and yes, even an abuser of women, still deserves due process under the law, yes or no?
Or are police officers entitled to be judge, jury and executioner in your world?

Floyd received due process and was sent to prison after his convictions.

 

[skeptic llc]

How would value be displayed?

Oooh, good question. Let's say thousand of George Floyds, armed with zip ties and bear spray and spears, had overrun the seat of US government, stolen congressional records, beat capitol police along the way, and put all of it on the internet live ... do you think Republican officials would be apologists for them?