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Biden lands another Republican Governor Endorsment

that is rich...you blather all over these forums and give no quality posts ever. I have yet to see anything fact based from you.

So exactly what is your definition of fact since apparently it isn't bls.gov, bea.gov, treasury.gov, the Constitution, census bureau or any other quantitative information. Guess the issues posted in that OP aren't factual either so rather continue to spout rhetoric answer the question, what exactly are facts to you?
 
Former Michigan Governor Rick Snyder: I am a Republican vote for Biden

"I will continue to support and stand up for Republican policies and values, and support Republican candidates, but I will not support Donald Trump for reelection."

It's not quite 4 small town MN Mayors, but it adds nicely to the 155 other Republicans, including Governors, Secretaries of State, Trump White House Staff, Congress People, Senators, Bush White House Staff, and the McCain family.

Source: Rick Snyder: why I'm voting for Joe Biden, even as a Republican

Yeah, screw that guy. He belongs in prison for his Flint water debacle.
 
Patriotism isn't rioting, looting, destruction of monuments, and BLM being racist. The simple minded ignore that Seattle, Portland, LA, SF, Chicago, Kenosha, St. Louis, NYC have been run by democrats for decades thus the hiring, funding, and training have come from the taxes collected in those cities, you tell me how and why that is federal responsibilities
No one claimed patriotism is any of those things. You are all over the place in this thread, seemingly determined to have an argument with things no one has said. Stop constructing strawmen and engage with the topic. I get you don’t like Democrats or their platform, but ask yourself why Republicans keep coming out in favour of Biden? Maybe Trump isn’t the pure embodiment of conservative ideals you seem to think he is. Don’t forget he spent most of his life as a sleazy Manhattan wannabe socialite who hung out with Democrats like the Clintons. Just the sort of guy you’d despise if he hadn’t entered the Republican primary.
 
No one claimed patriotism is any of those things. You are all over the place in this thread, seemingly determined to have an argument with things no one has said. Stop constructing strawmen and engage with the topic. I get you don’t like Democrats or their platform, but ask yourself why Republicans keep coming out in favour of Biden? Maybe Trump isn’t the pure embodiment of conservative ideals you seem to think he is. Don’t forget he spent most of his life as a sleazy Manhattan wannabe socialite who hung out with Democrats like the Clintons. Just the sort of guy you’d despise if he hadn’t entered the Republican primary.

No, what you don't get is I grew up a staunch JFK Democrat and have probably voted for more Democrats than you have voted Republican. The Democratic Party has been taken over by radicals and that is what you refuse to acknowledge. Far too many like you who buy rhetoric that you want to believe but never verify it for accuracy. Why don't you tell us exactly what is in the Harris/Biden agenda that you support and what don't you like? Can you explain to me why anyone would expect change in cities that have been run for the same ideology for decades by voting for the same ideology over and over again? Trump is the alternative to the Harris/Biden Administration so tell us exactly what Trump implemented that isn't conservative and what your alternative or the Democratic Alternative was?
 
Here is what happens when an African American endorses Trump

Watch: Craig Melvin Fires Back At Georgia Democrat Who Supports Trump | Craig Melvin | MSNBC - YouTube

By all means keep ignoring results and keep buying the liberal rhetoric diverting from the failures of liberalism and terrible liberal results

The Great Reset - Why They Hate Donald Trump - YouTube
This is what happens to anyone who just vomits up Dirtbag Donnie's lies and then launches into a rant and then runs of the cover of "racism" to avoid having to answer any other questions. It's really the ultimate in desperation for a black politician to accuse a black interviewer of racism.
 
This is what happens to anyone who just vomits up Dirtbag Donnie's lies.

Why is it people like you consistently give an anal exam to Trump rhetoric but not Biden's and why doesn't that exam exist when it comes to actual results? All those supposed lies and none of them affecting you or your family or even the country. Issues debate doesn't resonate with people like you
 
No, what you don't get is I grew up a staunch JFK Democrat and have probably voted for more Democrats than you have voted Republican.
What you don't get is that gives you no cover or status whatsoever, now.
 
No, what you don't get is I grew up a staunch JFK Democrat and have probably voted for more Democrats than you have voted Republican. The Democratic Party has been taken over by radicals and that is what you refuse to acknowledge. Far too many like you who buy rhetoric that you want to believe but never verify it for accuracy. Why don't you tell us exactly what is in the Harris/Biden agenda that you support and what don't you like? Can you explain to me why anyone would expect change in cities that have been run for the same ideology for decades by voting for the same ideology over and over again? Trump is the alternative to the Harris/Biden Administration so tell us exactly what Trump implemented that isn't conservative and what your alternative or the Democratic Alternative was?
Jesus man, I ask you stick to the topic and stop tilting at windmills and you come back with this hysterical lunacy. Let me know when you’ve got the better of your emotions and we can try again.
 
Trump literally cheats customers out of money, runs a corrupt CHARITY, trashes our military and thinks Christians are nut jobs.


And strong, independent Southern and Midwestern MEN are gonna vote for him.

What's that tell you?
It says alot. I've been discussing politics with my family here in Louisiana lately. They have always been pretty conservative and unabashed republicans, but I've never felt the need to really argue with them from a more moderate, centrist or eve left wing view point depending on the topic and my views of it.

Since Trump has been elected it's been a whirlwind of bullshit about the Qanon cult, the dems are trying to ruin the country, if you vote for Biden you think white lives are worth less than black lives, Trump is a genius who is incredibly honest and tells it like it is etc. It's just mind boggling.

We have a facebook messenger chat that we use for political discussions. A few months ago my brother had mentioned something about how all of the jobs started coming back right when Trump was elected and the unemployment rate plummeted etc. So I just went to BLS.gov, took a snippet of the chart and posted it. I asked him where the plummet is. He sidetracked and started arguing about how it's not Trumps fault that the en of the chart goes sky high because that's the virus and that's not his fault. I had to redirect him. "No, you said the unemployment rate plummeted. In my opinion, it continued on a downward trend at roughly the same pace that it was at before he was elected. Look at the chart and just tell me honestly which one of us you think is closer to the truth." to which he replied that you can't go off the unemployment rate because it's a fixed number and that it doesn't track how good everyone was doing before the virus.

It was absolutely astounding. I can't imagine being so brainwashed on a topic that I am unable to look at a straight line and not being able to just openly say "yea, looks like a straight line, I don't really see any drastic changes".
 
What you don't get is that gives you no cover or status whatsoever, now.

Right, today's Democratic Party has no resemblance to the party of JFK and what today's Democratic Party has done is unleased a massive hoax on the American electorate

The Biden Hoax

 
Right and what you ignore is that all those characteristics you claim about Trump hasn't hurt the American people at all as the results matter and it is results resonating with the voter, not Trump's personality ....
Trump’s “characteristics” are responsible for
- excessive/preventable deaths from Coronavirus
- the US economy contracted at a 32.9% annual rate from April through June, its worst drop on record
- increase in division among Americans and biggest spike in hate crimes in 16 years
- reduced air quality in America
- tearing apart immigrant families as a deterrent to keep Southern Triangle people out of America
- siding with and taking the word of dictators and despots
- damaging relationships with long time allies

and on, and on, and on .....

These and many more Trump failures are what’s resonating with Americans, and why Trump will rightfully be kicked to the curb.
 
Trump’s “characteristics” are responsible for
- excessive/preventable deaths from Coronavirus
- the US economy contracted at a 32.9% annual rate from April through June, its worst drop on record
- increase in division among Americans and biggest spike in hate crimes in 16 years
- reduced air quality in America
- tearing apart immigrant families as a deterrent to keep Southern Triangle people out of America
- siding with and taking the word of dictators and despots
- damaging relationships with long time allies

and on, and on, and on .....

These and many more Trump failures are what’s resonating with Americans, and why Trump will rightfully be kicked to the curb.

Your post is all lies and diversion from reality, another supposed American making wild ass claims. Where do you reside and in which country?

Like all radicals you claim you wanted the economic shutdown to stop the spread of the virus but what you really wanted were the poor economic numbers to blame on Trump. Doesn't appear to be working as his approval rating on the economy is back over 50% and no President in history has lost re-election with an approval rating on pocketbook issues over 50%

The only reduction in air quality is coming from the hot air being delivered by liberals. Your very poor understanding of state and local responsibility says all I need to know about you
 
It says alot. I've been discussing politics with my family here in Louisiana lately. They have always been pretty conservative and unabashed republicans, but I've never felt the need to really argue with them from a more moderate, centrist or eve left wing view point depending on the topic and my views of it.

Since Trump has been elected it's been a whirlwind of bullshit about the Qanon cult, the dems are trying to ruin the country, if you vote for Biden you think white lives are worth less than black lives, Trump is a genius who is incredibly honest and tells it like it is etc. It's just mind boggling.

We have a facebook messenger chat that we use for political discussions. A few months ago my brother had mentioned something about how all of the jobs started coming back right when Trump was elected and the unemployment rate plummeted etc. So I just went to BLS.gov, took a snippet of the chart and posted it. I asked him where the plummet is. He sidetracked and started arguing about how it's not Trumps fault that the en of the chart goes sky high because that's the virus and that's not his fault. I had to redirect him. "No, you said the unemployment rate plummeted. In my opinion, it continued on a downward trend at roughly the same pace that it was at before he was elected. Look at the chart and just tell me honestly which one of us you think is closer to the truth." to which he replied that you can't go off the unemployment rate because it's a fixed number and that it doesn't track how good everyone was doing before the virus.

It was absolutely astounding. I can't imagine being so brainwashed on a topic that I am unable to look at a straight line and not being able to just openly say "yea, looks like a straight line, I don't really see any drastic changes".

my cousin says literally the exact same stuff as your brother.


my cousin, in his life, has...

cheated on his wife
did drugs
filed bankruptcy
was an alcoholic
borrowed (and still owes) money to his mom
is a loud Christian
lies like he's breathing
HATES black people
listens to Rush/Sean 24/7 (and lets you know it)
says Democrats are Satan/Communist/Fascist/Racist/Perverts


i don't even listen to him anymore. he's lost.
 
my cousin says literally the exact same stuff as your brother.


my cousin, in his life, has...

cheated on his wife
did drugs
filed bankruptcy
was an alcoholic
borrowed (and still owes) money to his mom
is a loud Christian
lies like he's breathing
HATES black people
listens to Rush/Sean 24/7 (and lets you know it)
says Democrats are Satan/Communist/Fascist/Racist/Perverts


i don't even listen to him anymore. he's lost.
I don't want to go in to details but my brother has a past history of a lengthy jail sentence and heavy drug abuse, littered with the types of things that heavy drug abuse can lead to, like theft etc.

But since getting out he has gotten a job, works hard every day, got custody of his son back and by most standards is just a stand up guy. I love my brother. Same goes for my father and other family members by in large.

But I know a few of the types of people you are referring to. I don't argue with those types. Not worth my time or concern.
 
That isn't what they are saying though, they are saying they hate Trump so much that they are voting for biden. If they really were republicans and did not like trump, they would not vote for either.

That's just dumb. Why would not they vote for the better of the two options? Of course they would and they should. Your premise however that this Republican Governor is not really a Republican is funny though.
 
That's just dumb. Why would not they vote for the better of the two options? Of course they would and they should. Your premise however that this Republican Governor is not really a Republican is funny though.
It confirms for me that the disease of progressivism has not only inflicted democrats but republicans as well.
 
Republicans said that in 2015
Rank and file republicans voted for Trump in the primary and are still there at his campaign rallies. His popularity was due to his appealing to some pretty base instincts amongst the angry blue collar white guy demographic. I don’t think he could have appealed to rank and file democrats in the same way unless he used a completely different shtick.
 
Your post is all lies and diversion from reality, another supposed American making wild ass claims. Where do you reside and in which country?

Like all radicals you claim you wanted the economic shutdown to stop the spread of the virus but what you really wanted were the poor economic numbers to blame on Trump. Doesn't appear to be working as his approval rating on the economy is back over 50% and no President in history has lost re-election with an approval rating on pocketbook issues over 50%

The only reduction in air quality is coming from the hot air being delivered by liberals. Your very poor understanding of state and local responsibility says all I need to know about you
The lies are all yours. Everything I’ve posted are facts. Deal with it.

And since you like to debate using historical references, here’s a couple for you;
1. Since 1900, only one president has won re-election with a recession occurring sometime in the last two years of their first term: William McKinley.

Since then, the four presidents who ran for a second term during such an economic downturn—William Taft in 1912, Herber Hoover in 1932, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992—were unsuccessful.

Bad news for the “King of debt”.

2. In the entire history of polling, all incumbents with an approval rating of 50% or higher have won reelection, and presidents with approval ratings lower than 50% have lost.

Trump has not had one single day of his presidency when his national approval average has reached 50%. He has the worst approval ratings in the entire history of polling.
 
The lies are all yours. Everything I’ve posted are facts. Deal with it.

And since you like to debate using historical references, here’s a couple for you;
1. Since 1900, only one president has won re-election with a recession occurring sometime in the last two years of their first term: William McKinley.

Since then, the four presidents who ran for a second term during such an economic downturn—William Taft in 1912, Herber Hoover in 1932, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992—were unsuccessful.

Bad news for the “King of debt”.

2. In the entire history of polling, all incumbents with an approval rating of 50% or higher have won reelection, and presidents with approval ratings lower than 50% have lost.

Trump has not had one single day of his presidency when his national approval average has reached 50%. He has the worst approval ratings in the entire history of polling.

Here is your problem none of those Presidents had a pandemic and most people know that Trump isn't responsible for the pandemic, and most people understand that the liberal states and cities are economic and social disasters, the king of Debt is Obama, 9.3 trillion with NO pandemic. If a Democrat was in charge the debt would have been at least a trillion dollars more as that is what Pelosi wanted to bail out liberal states who are driving taxpayers out of those states due to high taxes, socialism isn't free

Your lack of understanding is evident in your posts as is your lack of civics and Constitutional education. Tell me the last time Seattle, Portland, LA, SF, Chicago, Kenosha, Minneapolis, NYC, St. Louis had a Republican Mayor and the last time California and NY had a Republican Legislature. You want the same results over and over, keep electing liberals
 
Here is your problem none of those Presidents had a pandemic and most people know that Trump isn't responsible for the pandemic, and most people understand that the liberal states and cities are economic and social disasters, the king of Debt is Obama, 9.3 trillion with NO pandemic. If a Democrat was in charge the debt would have been at least a trillion dollars more as that is what Pelosi wanted to bail out liberal states who are driving taxpayers out of those states due to high taxes, socialism isn't free

Your lack of understanding is evident in your posts as is your lack of civics and Constitutional education. Tell me the last time Seattle, Portland, LA, SF, Chicago, Kenosha, Minneapolis, NYC, St. Louis had a Republican Mayor and the last time California and NY had a Republican Legislature. You want the same results over and over, keep electing liberals
More pathetic lies and obfuscation. It’s really easy to understand why you’re a Trumpster.
 
Here is what happens when an African American endorses Trump

Watch: Craig Melvin Fires Back At Georgia Democrat Who Supports Trump | Craig Melvin | MSNBC - YouTube

By all means keep ignoring results and keep buying the liberal rhetoric diverting from the failures of liberalism and terrible liberal results

The Great Reset - Why They Hate Donald Trump - YouTube
We see the results of Trump lying to the American people about Covid-19 --- 200,000 dead (so far) with tens of thousands that didn't have to die if we had presidential leadership that addressed the pandemic from day one.
 
my cousin says literally the exact same stuff as your brother.


my cousin, in his life, has...

cheated on his wife
did drugs
filed bankruptcy
was an alcoholic
borrowed (and still owes) money to his mom
is a loud Christian
lies like he's breathing
HATES black people
listens to Rush/Sean 24/7 (and lets you know it)
says Democrats are Satan/Communist/Fascist/Racist/Perverts


i don't even listen to him anymore. he's lost.

Substitute the word "fake" for "loud" Christian, and you described Trump to a tee.
 
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