Bernie's plans... How they are paid for.

[ludin]

CNN isn't above engineering a hit piece on Bernie to repay one of the favors they owe Shillary, or to increase the odds she'll be in a position to repay the favors she owes them.

it isn't just cnn it is almost every other major news organization out there.
his math doesn't add up.

 

[Absentglare]

it isn't just cnn it is almost every other major news organization out there.
his math doesn't add up.

Link them.

 

[ludin]

Medical costs in the US are so high precisely because we do have insurance networks and no control over prescription drug price gouging, which raises the costs for everyone.

Bernie's plan, while requiring a tax increase will eliminate premiums, deductibles, monthly insurance amounts that come out of your paycheck, etc and will save everyone thousands of dollars over the course of ones lifetime.

There is 0 proof of this. Bernie is right because Bernie says it's right is circular logic no matter how you state it.
losing an additional 8.2% out of my pay check on top of having to get private insurance to deal with things that Bernie doesn't think I need.

does not save me or anyone else money.

Most countries have recognized these savings which is why the US is the only major 1st world country that stands alone as far as our healthcare system goes. Certain industries operate better when privatized and certain industries operate better when ran by the government, and healthcare is one of those industries because the lack of controls in place in the private sector allow prices to run rampant.

We also have the best doctors, medical procedures, medical equipment in the world. where do you think that comes from?

Our healthcare prices trickle into the rest of the economy for people who would otherwise have more discretionary spending now having to devote their income towards taking care of themselves and their families. Single payer healthcare is just smart, and quite frankly it's conservative in that it cuts the price down and benefits the economy as a whole.

it's only smart if you don't value your health.
it's dumb if you think the government really cares about your health.

 

[ludin]

Link them.

Google there you go I have already posted at least 2 articles on it.
that is enough.

if you want more go look it up yourself and educate yourself on the issue.
since you evidently have a sever lack of knowledge.

sanders numbers don't add up. he has an 11.5 trillion dollar deficit in what he wants to do.

 

[Absentglare]

Google there you go I have already posted at least 2 articles on it.
that is enough.

if you want more go look it up yourself and educate yourself on the issue.
since you evidently have a sever lack of knowledge.

sanders numbers don't add up. he has an 11.5 trillion dollar deficit in what he wants to do.

Lol IOW you couldn't materialize your claims. Unsurprising.

 

[Absentglare]

There is 0 proof of this. Bernie is right because Bernie says it's right is circular logic no matter how you state it.
losing an additional 8.2% out of my pay check on top of having to get private insurance to deal with things that Bernie doesn't think I need.

does not save me or anyone else money.



We also have the best doctors, medical procedures, medical equipment in the world. where do you think that comes from?



it's only smart if you don't value your health.
it's dumb if you think the government really cares about your health.

I don't think a single claim you made here is correct.

 

[Casper]

I think the winds are shifting, starting with the younger generations who are being faced with higher costs of everything from rent to housing, to education, healthcare, goods and services, etc. Our healthcare system is exorbitantly expensive for various reasons, all which could be addressed by ending its privatization and taking cost control out of the hands of insurance companies and into the hands of the government.

People are happy with the status quo until the status quo makes it harder to justify, and we're getting to that point very rapidly. I know you libertarian conservative types shriek in pain at the thought of big gummint taking control of anything, but healthcare will be single payer in my lifetime if the guys who run it can't get costs under control.

Why can't we negotiate prescription drug prices in the US like every other industrialized nation, which would drastically reduce costs?

Why can't we control administrative costs, which make up around 25% of healthcare costs? Most industrialized nations don't have this issue because their healthcare is government ran.

When you switch healthcare over to the government, you now have negotiating power over out of control prices. You also save your employer money which gives more incentive towards raises, money that could be put to better use flowing back into the economy.

There are so many advantages to single payer healthcare that it's astounding really that our electoral populace can't grasp this.

So sorry but you lost me when you labeled me as, what was it you called it a "libertarian conservative", cannot stop laughing long enough to address the rest of the Bernie speak. FYI: I am a Freaking Liberal, have been one all my life, the thing is I am a Liberal near the Center, something the far left does not understand.

 

[Lord of Planar]

You didn't discuss a topic at all. You just stated we are a Republic.

Again, Democracy won when the Republic was abusing Rights and condoning slavery. The reason the Constitution wasn't changed is because one of you shot Lincoln before he changed it.

I agree that most laws should be State driven. MOST. If the State doesn't have common sense, the people shouldn't pay the penalty.

Wow...

Just wow...