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Ben Carson asks, ‘Gravity, where did it come from?’

When in the hell did I ever say that?

Instead of addressing the arguments that I raise, you misrepresent what I say and use it as a means to ridicule. That's pretty damned lame if you ask me.

Then you agree. There is scientific evidence supporting the Big Bang and no scientific evidence supporting Creationism and therefore the logical position is the former.

I'm glad you've stopped pretending beliefs with scientific evidence are equal to those without.
 
It's amazing how scared Progressives and Liberals are of a Conservative who is not afraid to openly discuss his faith and beliefs. Oh yeah, he's black too!! That's it, their racist!!


That line worked in 2008.
 
More accurately, it works constantly. Every mass is affected by gravity.

Yes, that's more accurate. The gravitational force acts constantly, and it acts at any distance. It's been know for centuries that it is proportional to the masses of any two objects and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. But why the force is a function of mass, or what the means is by which it acts cross vast distances between one mass and another, who knows?
 
Then you agree. There is scientific evidence supporting the Big Bang and no scientific evidence supporting Creationism and therefore the logical position is the former.

I'm glad you've stopped pretending beliefs with scientific evidence are equal to those without.

Funny, that the Big Bang theory supports creationism more than you think or are aware of.
 
What brain surgeon can't grasp basic biology, astronomy, or understand climate change...
Let's not forget his record on vaccines: Ben Carson says pediatricians realize need to cut down number and proximity of vaccines | PolitiFact Florida

I do not support Ben Carson as a candidate, but you're being a little dishonest.

You don't have to accept macroevolution, know a lick of astronomy, or accept climate change to be an extremely competent neurosurgeon.

He's by no means an all-out anti-vaxxer. He simply stated that they should be distributed in smaller amounts over a longer period of time.
 
It's frightening that people with such beliefs are considered for public office.

Nah. It's a sign of a healthy democracy that any nutjob can at least try to run for office. It'd be frightening if there were enough nutjobs in the electorate to actually get them elected.
 
Nah. It's a sign of a healthy democracy that any nutjob can at least try to run for office. It'd be frightening if there were enough nutjobs in the electorate to actually get them elected.

When haven't we elected fundies?
 
Nah. It's a sign of a healthy democracy that any nutjob can at least try to run for office. It'd be frightening if there were enough nutjobs in the electorate to actually get them elected.

True, but when their followers are disproportionately catered to, then you may have problems.
The old saying, squeaky wheel get the oil.
 
So where did gravity come from then?

It's actually a very, very good question, and all you have done is sneered at the questioner

It's pretty clear here that nobody here has any ****ing idea about the origins of anything material or the forces it inspires. This is simply an opportunity for insecure people to say something largely devoid of any meaning at all while patting themselves on the back for being as ignorant as everybody else in the end.
 
If that question is so stupid, then why don't one of you tell us where gravity came from?

While you're at it, could one of you please link me to the scientific proof that the earth, stars, galaxies and the universe itself weren't the products of intelligent design, but rather came into existence due to natural happenstance?

Now before anyone goes off half cocked, you should know that I'm actually a huge cosmology buff and not a religious person at all. Now that that's clear, I'm looking forward to those answers... Thanks.

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If you were any kind of science buff, you'd realize that the burden of proof rests on those with the ridiculous theory.
 
It's amazing how scared Progressives and Liberals are of a Conservative who is not afraid to openly discuss his faith and beliefs. Oh yeah, he's black too!! That's it, their racist!!


That line worked in 2008.

Every time you say Hillary Clinton shouldn't be elected, it's because you're terrified of her.
 
Then you agree. There is scientific evidence supporting the Big Bang and no scientific evidence supporting Creationism and therefore the logical position is the former.

I'm glad you've stopped pretending beliefs with scientific evidence are equal to those without.

The evidence that is use isn't solid, but speculatory. There is nothing tangible, just a series of mathematical formulas that all have flaws in them. The "standard model" is the basis of the big bang theory, and is derived from Einstein's E=Mc2. It's flaw came when it didn't jibe with the uniformity of the universe in every direction. So it was the "expansion theory" to the rescue. It hinges on the big bang being actually a little bang that didn't explode outward at great speeds, but stayed more confined which explains the uniformity of temperatures we see today. Then all of the sudden everything expanded a quadrillion quadrillion times in the blink of an eye, and so precisely controlled that it did blow the universe completely apart. The math when practically tested through observation, came out nearly perfect with what was observed by cosmologists. It's flaw unfortunately, is a major one. It seems they have no idea where the unfathomable amount of energy required to facilitate that huge expansion could have possibly come from. They are so dumbfounded by this, that very few in the scientific community will even venture a wild guess as to it origins. I've already addressed dark matter and dark energy, both of which were scientific concocted in order to fix the gaping flaws in the standard model.

What all of that plainly shows, is that everything that is presented as evidence for the big bang, are nothing but mathematic theories that have such major flaws in them that scientists work diligently to come up with new equations to fix those theories, which in the end, also end up being flawed.

If you want to talk about the multiverse theory that was dreamed up by scientists to explain the nearly incomprehensible precision of gravity and the laws of physics, just let me know... That one makes me laugh out loud, so I would be glad to discuss it with you.
 
The evidence that is use isn't solid, but speculatory. There is nothing tangible, just a series of mathematical formulas that all have flaws in them. The "standard model" is the basis of the big bang theory, and is derived from Einstein's E=Mc2. It's flaw came when it didn't jibe with the uniformity of the universe in every direction. So it was the "expansion theory" to the rescue. It hinges on the big bang being actually a little bang that didn't explode outward at great speeds, but stayed more confined which explains the uniformity of temperatures we see today. Then all of the sudden everything expanded a quadrillion quadrillion times in the blink of an eye, and so precisely controlled that it did blow the universe completely apart. The math when practically tested through observation, came out nearly perfect with what was observed by cosmologists. It's flaw unfortunately, is a major one. It seems they have no idea where the unfathomable amount of energy required to facilitate that huge expansion could have possibly come from. They are so dumbfounded by this, that very few in the scientific community will even venture a wild guess as to it origins. I've already addressed dark matter and dark energy, both of which were scientific concocted in order to fix the gaping flaws in the standard model.

What all of that plainly shows, is that everything that is presented as evidence for the big bang, are nothing but mathematic theories that have such major flaws in them that scientists work diligently to come up with new equations to fix those theories, which in the end, also end up being flawed.

If you want to talk about the multiverse theory that was dreamed up by scientists to explain the nearly incomprehensible precision of gravity and the laws of physics, just let me know... That one makes me laugh out loud, so I would be glad to discuss it with you.

That apologism for believing things with NO EVIDENCE is too long to read.

Some evidence > no evidence
 
If you were any kind of science buff, you'd realize that the burden of proof rests on those with the ridiculous theory.

My point is, that neither the big bang theory or creation theory have any tangible proof that makes one any more a leap of faith than the other.

So, do you have the answer as to where gravity comes from?
 
That apologism for believing things with NO EVIDENCE is too long to read.

So what's the belief that I have, that you claim I'm an apologising for again?

Some evidence > no evidence

That's just your way of saying that you refuse to address my post. When it comes to the existence of God, what do you say to the thousands of people who all claim to have seen the virgin mary appear before their eyes? What about the literally millions of people who claim to have been visited by friends and family members after their deaths, from some other realm or plane of existence? How about the countless number of children all over the world who recount the memories of a past life they had lived, with an unbelievable accuracy of detail, and knowledge that they would have absolutely no way of knowing?

Those people's experiences represent evidence of things that scientists can't explain, and that evidence is no more solid than the evidence used to support the big bang theory. One is based on math, the other on personal experience. They both require a leap of faith and neither can be proven or disproven.

My point being, that ridiculing someone over questioning our origins and the origins of the universe, when science doesn't have the answers either, is about as condescending and hypocritical as it gets. But who am I to criticize the latest liberal sport of attacking and ridiculing people who don't subscribe to their world view.
 
Funny, that the Big Bang theory supports creationism more than you think or are aware of.

I haven't brushed upon that one yet, but something tells me that before this is done, i will.
 
Big bang is a theory, not a proven fact. Nevertheless, the theory was developed through observation of the physical universe. Our universe is expanding. The galaxies are all moving away from each other in all directions as though they are propelled by an explosion. The big bang is one way to explain what is observed. There are other explanations as well but big bang is the most popular one.

I think the big bang theory is fine, but many people don't realize just how flawed the science behind it really is. Here's a link to a documentary from the BBC that addresses some of those many flaws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsEfZaZLNhA

As I said before, I'm a huge cosmology/science documentary buff. I go to sleep every single night watching space and science documentaries.
 
That's just your way of saying that you refuse to address my post. When it comes to the existence of God, what do you say to the thousands of people who all claim to have seen the virgin mary appear before their eyes? What about the literally millions of people who claim to have been visited by friends and family members after their deaths, from some other realm or plane of existence? How about the countless number of children all over the world who recount the memories of a past life they had lived, with an unbelievable accuracy of detail, and knowledge that they would have absolutely no way of knowing?

Those people's experiences represent evidence of things that scientists can't explain, and that evidence is no more solid than the evidence used to support the big bang theory. One is based on math, the other on personal experience. They both require a leap of faith and neither can be proven or disproven.

My point being, that ridiculing someone over questioning our origins and the origins of the universe, when science doesn't have the answers either, is about as condescending and hypocritical as it gets. But who am I to criticize the latest liberal sport of attacking and ridiculing people who don't subscribe to their world view.

The universe isn't uniform in all directions, and it's not expanding uniformly either.
 
My point is, that neither the big bang theory or creation theory have any tangible proof that makes one any more a leap of faith than the other.

So, do you have the answer as to where gravity comes from?

*Obviously* the answer is the God particle !
 
The universe isn't uniform in all directions, and it's not expanding uniformly either.

When I say uniformed, I'm talking about the temperature of the microwave background being the same no matter where you look. That directly contradicts the belief that we exploded into existence. As for the expansion, the farther away from the center of the universe a galaxy gets, the faster it appears to travel.
 
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