Lately we have seen Republican and Democrat (though, oddly, only Republicans make news with it) Governors work to save their states from fiscal ruin by curtailing the Public Unions, either in finances or in power. Have the last two years marked the beginning of the end for the Public Sector Union, and will they go the way of the Private Sector Union?
Hopefully it's the beginning of the end for all unions.
you are free to work anywhere you wish....if you don't like the terms of that employment, no one is forcing you to take a job...move on to the next one.I would like to see a national right to work law past.
Lately we have seen Republican and Democrat (though, oddly, only Republicans make news with it) Governors work to save their states from fiscal ruin by curtailing the Public Unions, either in finances or in power. Have the last two years marked the beginning of the end for the Public Sector Union, and will they go the way of the Private Sector Union?
you are free to work anywhere you wish....if you don't like the terms of that employment, no one is forcing you to take a job...move on to the next one.
They should be forced if they will in anyway benefit from something a union negotiates.No one should be force into a union just because of there job.
Lately we have seen Republican and Democrat (though, oddly, only Republicans make news with it) Governors work to save their states from fiscal ruin by curtailing the Public Unions, either in finances or in power. Have the last two years marked the beginning of the end for the Public Sector Union, and will they go the way of the Private Sector Union?
Joining a union should be a choice and it should never be a condition of employment.Closed shops remove this choice especially for anyone wanting to be a public school teacher, police officer or some other public sector career that has a closed shop. Whether or someone works for a company should only be between the employee and employer and should have nothing to do with the union.Whether or not someone joins a union should only be between the individual and the union and should have nothing to do with the employer.you are free to work anywhere you wish....if you don't like the terms of that employment, no one is forcing you to take a job...move on to the next one.
No one should be force into a union just because of there job.
It's not a choice in some places because it's not a choice to benefit from what unions negotiate. If you teach in a public school where unions negotiate better security, then you are a free rider if you don't pay union dues. That's ridiculous.Joining a union should be a choice and it should never be a condition of employment.Closed shops remove this choice especially for anyone wanting to be a public school teacher, police officer or some other public sector career that has a closed shop.
Joining a union should be a choice and it should never be a condition of employment.Closed shops remove this choice especially for anyone wanting to be a public school teacher, police officer or some other public sector career that has a closed shop.
no one is 'forced' to do anything....you always have a choice.No one should be force into a union just because of there job.
as i stated earlier, no one is 'forced' to do anything....you always have a choice on where to work, if you don't like working in a union shop, there are plenty of places out there that are non-union...why should you have the right to walk into a place that is a union shop, where the employees voted for unionization, and say 'no thanks' to joining the union, but still be able to enjoy the benefits of that union's presence? no free riders. funny how you never hear about a 'free rider' turning down the benefits they enjoy because of the union, you never hear of a 'free rider' going up to the boss, and asking for less pay, less benefits, because they are not in the union...Joining a union should be a choice and it should never be a condition of employment.Closed shops remove this choice especially for anyone wanting to be a public school teacher, police officer or some other public sector career that has a closed shop. Whether or someone works for a company should only be between the employee and employer and should have nothing to do with the union.Whether or not someone joins a union should only be between the individual and the union and should have nothing to do with the employer.
They should be forced if they will in anyway benefit from something a union negotiates.
no one is 'forced' to do anything....you always have a choice.
:shrug: I believe that the country benefits from Conservative governance. Ergo, all citizens should be forced to donate money to conservative candidates for political office. Yes?
It's not force: it's democratic process when voting for representation.
If - it were democratically elected as a reuirement, then you would be right; but . . .
Beliefs are irrelevant to what I'm saying. I'm talking about facts. It is a fact that a teacher is a free rider if they get their class size lowered because of union negotiations and yet doesn't pay union dues. That is a measurable fact.:shrug: I believe that the country benefits from Conservative governance. Ergo, all citizens should be forced to donate money to conservative candidates for political office. Yes?
Beliefs are irrelevant to what I'm saying. I'm talking about facts. It is a fact that a teacher is a free rider if they get their class size lowered because of union negotiations and yet doesn't pay union dues. That is a measurable fact.
No, it's really not a belief. You don't seem to understand this basic concept, so let me try to explain it in a simpler way.:doh
No, it's not. It is a belief. One could just as easily make the argument that without public union restrictions, merit pay would allow non-unionized teachers to earn more. Similarly, one could argue that without Unions' shifting compensation to the back end via retirement and healthcare benefits, that non-unionized teachers (many of whom may want to only work for a few years) would benefit more from being able to negotiate individually and shift their compensation to the pay end and away from the benefits.
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