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Arnold Schwarzenegger's 2020 message to the Russian people

…..do you not know what apartheid was?

Are you unaware of the significant aid the U.S. provided to apartheid South Africa in the name of “fighting Russia”?

That's different than what you posted

the US has never gotten over the Russians helping bring down apartheid

So I asked. So Russia helped end apartheid and somebody never got over it? Who?

Name someone who "has never gotten over the Russians helping bring down apartheid".

You didn't answer why any of this matters now.
 
No, you changed the subject from confederate flags to Iraq. :ROFLMAO:
You were the one who started going on and on about who was “dumber”.

Hard to get more idiotic than the lies America keeps spewing about Iraq or Iran being “threats to democracy.”

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And gee, would you look at that.

So much for the “war being over” 😂
 
That's different than what you posted



So I asked. So Russia helped end apartheid and somebody never got over it? Who?

Name someone who "has never gotten over the Russians helping bring down apartheid".

You didn't answer why any of this matters now.
The Russians played an immense role in bringing down apartheid.

The US has never gotten over the fall of apartheid, as they supported the apartheid regime extensively.

Which you would know if you bothered to read.
 
You were the one who started going on and on about who was “dumber”.

Hard to get more idiotic than the lies America keeps spewing about Iraq or Iran being “threats to democracy.”

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And gee, would you look at that.

So much for the “war being over” 😂
Get your facts straight! You were the first person in the thread to discuss the confederate flag:
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Now you don't want to talk about it anymore because you realize how weak your position is, so you switch to Iraq!
 
The Russians played an immense role in bringing down apartheid.
I'm glad they did.

The US has never gotten over the fall of apartheid, as they supported the apartheid regime extensively.

Which you would know if you bothered to read.

What do mean by saying the "US has never gotten over the fall of apartheid"? Who are you talking about? Who cares if Russia helped end apartheid? I won't criticize the result. I won't defend the US in S.A. either.

That would mean somebody thinks it's worth a * to people in 2025.

You still didn't say who never got over it.

You didn't say why Russians doing that then matters now.
 
Get your facts straight! You were the first person in the thread to discuss the confederate flag:
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Now you don't want to talk about it anymore because you realize how weak your position is, so you switch to Iraq!
Yep, because you mentioned lack of “logic and common sense”, and America’s celebration of slavery displays an immense lack of either.

And because of that, the US has no room to call anyone else “dumbasses”.

But I get panic and fear at being forced to face what the US is to this very day is all you have, after all 😂😂😂
 
I'm glad they did.



What do mean by saying the "US has never gotten over the fall of apartheid"? Who are you talking about? Who cares if Russia helped end apartheid? I won't criticize the result. I won't defend the US in S.A. either.

That would mean somebody thinks it worth a * to people in 2025.

You still didn't say who never got over it.

You didn't say why Russians doing that then matters now.
The US isn’t. If it was up to America apartheid would still be the law of the land there.

Because no amount of wailing about how you “don’t care” can change the facts ;)
 
The US isn’t. If it was up to America apartheid would still be the law of the land there.

Interesting speculation, sure we'll talk about that some other time in the what-if forum.

Because no amount of wailing about how you “don’t care” can change the facts ;)

I'm still asking who is an example of your US.
So far the only clues I have are "they supported the apartheid regime extensively.'

If you can say something like the CIA, the military industrial complex, the libs, President Eisenhower, and then I'll know.

Because the question is who got burned by supporting a racist regime. Ok, that's what I'm trying to ask you. Who were or still are the (explitive deleted) who has a sad about the end of apartheid?
 
Interesting speculation, sure we'll talk about that some other time in the what-if forum.



I'm still asking who is an example of your US.
So far the only clues I have are "they supported the apartheid regime extensively.'

If you can say something like the CIA, the military industrial complex, the libs, President Eisenhower, and then I'll know.

Because the question is who got burned by supporting a racist regime. Ok, that's what I'm trying to ask you. Who were or still are the (explitive deleted) who has a sad about the end of apartheid?
The US’ actions make that rather clear, actually.

How many times do you have to be told “the US” before you actually read?

America. America does. The US supported apartheid, and apartheid fell, and America, a deeply racist country, is still horrified about that to this day.
 
The US’ actions make that rather clear, actually.

How many times do you have to be told “the US” before you actually read?

America. America does. The US supported apartheid, and apartheid fell, and America, a deeply racist country, is still horrified about that to this day.

You mean Trump, Musk And Miller. Got it.

You didn't say why Russians doing that then matters now.
 
Yep, because you mentioned lack of “logic and common sense”, and America’s celebration of slavery displays an immense lack of either.
Thanks for confirming you don't want to talk about it because your position is weak. (y)
And because of that, the US has no room to call anyone else “dumbasses”.

But I get panic and fear at being forced to face what the US is to this very day is all you have, after all 😂😂😂
 
Thanks for confirming you don't want to talk about it because your position is weak. (y)
Thanks for confirming that the U.S. doesn’t have any room to talk..:.as usual 😂
 
You mean Trump, Musk And Miller. Got it.

You didn't say why Russians doing that then matters now.
No, I mean the U.S.

And no amount of whining about how you don’t care can change that.
 
No, I mean the U.S.

And no amount of whining about how you don’t care can change that.


You didn't say why this is important to anyone now.

How does that make any difference at all to anyone today?

How is this important at all if most people are unaware Russians ended apartheid and American racist POSs got burned? How does this possibly make a difference if most people don't even know?

I'm asking because your claim is another stupid whataboutism that doesn't mean squat.

Putin started the war and he is responsible for the death and destruction. And no number of fake diversions can change that.

So why is this relevant to anything now? You never said that.
 
The Russian people were already familiar with Arnold because the movie Red Heat (1988) was filmed in Moscow and released in Russia.

Here Arnold speaks to the Russian people personally and tells them that the Putin government is lying about the invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2020.



Ahhhnold ever try to get his balls back from the California Mafia teachers union?
 
You didn't say why this is important to anyone now.

How does that make any difference at all to anyone today?

How is this important at all if most people are unaware Russians ended apartheid and American racist POSs got burned? How does this possibly make a difference if most people don't even know?

I'm asking because your claim is another stupid whataboutism that doesn't mean squat.

Putin started the war and he is responsible for the death and destruction. And no number of fake diversions can change that.

So why is this relevant to anything now? You never said that.
It sure matters to the people of South Africa, who know full well that the apartheid regime intended on forcibly sterilizing its non white population.

American ignorance doesn’t actually make historical facts go away.

And no amount of flailing can change that.
 
It sure matters to the people of South Africa, who know full well that the apartheid regime intended on forcibly sterilizing its non white population.

American ignorance doesn’t actually make historical facts go away.

And no amount of flailing can change that.

You didn't say why this makes any difference to us now. How is this the least bit relevant to Putin or Russia, or the war today?
 
You didn't say why this makes any difference to us now. How is this the least bit relevant to Putin or Russia, or the war today?
Because America is still propping up apartheid states across the globe, still fervently racist, and no amount of posturing can change that reality.

Of course, if it actually didn’t matter to you you wouldn’t be replying to begin with 😂
 
Because America is still propping up apartheid states across the globe, still fervently racist, and no amount of posturing can change that reality.

Of course, if it actually didn’t matter to you you wouldn’t be replying to begin with 😂

That doesn't say anything about Putin, Russia or the war today. How is this relevant to Putin, Russia or the war today?
 
That doesn't say anything about Putin, Russia or the war today. How is this relevant to Putin, Russia or the war today?
“But Putin” is an especially meaningless screech given the US just initiated a war of aggression against Iran.
 
“But Putin” is an especially meaningless screech given the US just initiated a war of aggression against Iran.

You didn't say why it matters now.
So the thoroughly racist US is currently propping up apartheid states. Why would that make any difference in Putin's war? How does that explain the relevance of former Soviets in South Africa when discussing Putin's war now?

What difference does it make in this war if racist pigs are still mad about South Africa? How does that change Putins' war?

How is this relevant to Putin, Russia now or the war today?
 
You didn't say why it matters now.
So the thoroughly racist US is currently propping up apartheid states. Why would that make any difference in Putin's war? How does that explain the relevance of former Soviets in South Africa when discussing Putin's war now?

What difference does it make in this war if racist pigs are still mad about South Africa? How does that change Putins' war?

How is this relevant to Putin, Russia now or the war today?
I did already, multiple times now. You refusing to read is your problem

America’s horror that apartheid fell in South Africa and desperation to aid a similar regime in Israel can’t be excused by any about of wailing about Putin.

Refusing to read can’t make the facts go away.
 
You didn't say why it matters now.
So the thoroughly racist US is currently propping up apartheid states. Why would that make any difference in Putin's war? How does that explain the relevance of former Soviets in South Africa when discussing Putin's war now?

What difference does it make in this war if racist pigs are still mad about South Africa? How does that change Putins' war?

How is this relevant to Putin, Russia now or the war today?

US support of a former apartheid state -> Something -> Something -> Something -> Something -> Putin invading Ukraine.
 
I did already, multiple times now. You refusing to read is your problem

America’s horror that apartheid fell in South Africa and desperation to aid a similar regime in Israel can’t be excused by any about of wailing about Putin.

I'm not feelin' the "America's horror" bit. That's a vague generalization.

Your post is unclear. Apartheid unraveled in South Africa in 1990.

Refusing to read can’t make the facts go away.

Do you imagine trump would decide to bomb Putin just like he did tonight to Iran? Iran , Russia, which of these two countries already has nukes? Are you saying Putin thinks the US would do the same? That's paranoid. The US and Israel have no other partners, I haven't checked if there's any reaction from the EU or NATO.

Your diversions are non sequitur examples because there's no relavent connection from one event to the other.
 
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I'm not feelin' the "America's horror" bit. That's a vague generalization.

Your post is unclear. Apartheid unraveled in South Africa in 1990.



Do you imagine trump would decide to bomb Putin just like he did tonight to Iran? Iran , Russia, which of these two countries already has nukes? Are you saying Putin thinks the US would do the same? That's paranoid. The US and Israel have no other partners, I haven't checked if there's any reaction from the EU or NATO.

Your diversions are non sequitur examples because there's no relavent connection from one event to the other.
Much to the US’ horror.

Why should anyone care what the US says about Putin? America is currently waging a war of aggression itself.

The only reason the US hasn’t attacked Russia, btw, is the massive Russian nuclear arsenal and willingness to use it.
 
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