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A group of Arizona politicians — all Republicans, of course — have proposed a law (House Bill 2467) requiring public high school students to recite the following oath in order to graduate:
I, _______, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge these duties; So help me God.
Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists To Graduate High School
Awful damn hard to be a pagan and a conservative in this country when our so-called "conservative party" apparently hates you.
Does your (lack of) religion prohibit you from saying "So help me God"? If not than this "oath" clearly does not establish a religion nor prohibit the free exercise thereof.
Does your (lack of) religion prohibit you from saying "So help me God"? If not than this "oath" clearly does not establish a religion nor prohibit the free exercise thereof.
So you are saying that your deity, or one of them, isn't a god?Your parenthetical is not appreciated-- as I noted, I am not atheist but pagan, an Ásatrúar, and I am devoutly religious. And yes, my faith absolutely does prohibit me from saying "So help me God" or swearing any other oath on the Judeochristian deity along with any other non-Germanic deity.
Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists To Graduate High School
Awful damn hard to be a pagan and a conservative in this country when our so-called "conservative party" apparently hates you.
So you are saying that your deity, or one of them, isn't a god?
No, but my deities have names and they are not properly addressed by "God".
Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists To Graduate High School
Awful damn hard to be a pagan and a conservative in this country when our so-called "conservative party" apparently hates you.
If any one of them is a god to you, then there is no reason as to why you can not say it, as it would be inclusive to you, as opposed to those who do not believe in a G_d, or gods. Let alone the statement of Oath to begin with.No, but my deities have names and they are not properly addressed by "God".
If any one of them is a god to you, then there is no reason as to why you can not say it, as it would be inclusive to you, as opposed to those who do not believe in a G_d, or gods.
And yet refers to any deity. Go figure."God" is a capitalized proper noun and any person of Judeochristian faith will be happy to tell you refers only to their god. I am as excluded as any atheist.
Arizona Republicans Propose Bill That Would Not Allow Atheists To Graduate High School
Awful damn hard to be a pagan and a conservative in this country when our so-called "conservative party" apparently hates you.
'Libertarianism - Right', apparently, means being perfectly content with allowing the State to violate an individual's right of conscience in order to appease our conservative political benefactors.
And yet refers to any deity. Go figure.
Such as the Greek Gods.
Your distortion of what is actually being proposed in Arizona is somewhere between comical and pathetic....
:dohExcept that it doesn't, being the difference between the proper noun "God", which is never pluralized, and the common noun "god" which is frequently so.
Well the oath is not religious.Okay, wise guy, tell me what is being proposed in Arizona if it isn't an illegal and unconstitutional requirement for students to swear a religious oath before they're allowed to graduate high school.
Except that it doesn't, being the difference between the proper noun "God", which is never pluralized, and the common noun "god" which is frequently so.
Okay, wise guy, tell me what is being proposed in Arizona if it isn't an illegal and unconstitutional requirement for students to swear a religious oath before they're allowed to graduate high school.
Again, your thread title and claims simply ring as partisan blather.....
Yeah, I hate the Republicans so much I went out and registered as one.
Whether or not it was religious, I would refuse to say it because I am graduating from high school. I am not taking a public oath for office.
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