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Sharon was the Minister of Defense. "His" plan was authorized by the government which was led by Menachem Begin. The Chief of the army was Rafael Eithan (Sharon was never Chief of the Army, he was a General).
Israel's current prime minister (Sharon) - 20 years ago, the defense minister of a nation at war - deceived the reigning prime minister, the government and the entire public.
and you get it wrong again
i am very much pro israel
just as i am very much pro palestine
one does not have to hate one while advocating the other
but from your posts, over a long span, it is obvious that reality is beyond you
justabubba post 14 said:if there is a hell, he is now arguing once more with arafat
two sides of the same terrorist coin
good riddance to both
back to the thread topic ...
Chomsky gets it right:
Oh yes, you are so down the middle :roll: You got called out, now you are spinning trying to turn this around on me. Jesus bubba, try a little honesty for a change will ya?
I guess the fact that he says that Arafat is in hell too means that he's anti-Palestinian as well. :roll:
What Pete said. Sharon way over-stepped the agreed remit of the invasion without Begin's approval. This came out some years later. Sharon sued the journalists who made the allegation, and lost the case. Here's the story:
So what is your point? That he is adept at covering his anti Semitic screed by adding in Arafat's name? What a joke...In the same post he cites Chomsky for God's sake...That man is drivel personified. You can roll your eyes all you want, but we know the truth of people in here and where they stand....Too many posts over too many years not to.
I know there's an unshakeable belief amongst many mostly, but not exclusively, right wingers that Chomsky is anti-semitic, but I don't buy it at all. It doesn't take much reading of articles, books and interviews with him to bury this lie. Here's a great interview that does just that.
A Chomsky quote:
"What is the Jew's foundation in this world? Usury. What is his worldly god? Money...Money is the zealous one God of Israel, beside which no other God may stand...The bill of exchange is the Jew's real God...Only then could Jewry become universally dominant...The social emancipation of Jewry is the emancipation of society from Jewry."
Stereotypical drivel....Oh he's so enlightened isn't he?
Source? Link?
A Chomsky quote:
"What is the Jew's foundation in this world? Usury. What is his worldly god? Money...Money is the zealous one God of Israel, beside which no other God may stand...The bill of exchange is the Jew's real God...Only then could Jewry become universally dominant...The social emancipation of Jewry is the emancipation of society from Jewry."
Stereotypical drivel....Oh he's so enlightened isn't he?
Those are a series of non-consecutive and incomplete quotes from Karl Marx.
I know there's an unshakeable belief amongst many mostly, but not exclusively, right wingers that Chomsky is anti-semitic, but I don't buy it at all. It doesn't take much reading of articles, books and interviews with him to bury this lie. Here's a great interview that does just that.
Are you doubting the quote?
Is Noam Chomsky an Anti-Semite
There, now you can dismiss it due to source.
Karl Marx, born a Jew and baptized only at the age of six, who could nonetheless write
What is the Jew's foundation in this world? Usury. What is his worldly god? Money...Money is the zealous one God of Israel, beside which no other God may stand...The bill of exchange is the Jew's real God...Only then could Jewry become universally dominant...The social emancipation of Jewry is the emancipation of society from Jewry.
So, what you are saying here is that if you wish to understand the living conditions of the chickens, all you need to do is interview the fox.
That Chomsky repeated? I can see that happening....He is after all a student of Marx, in addition to an anti Semite.
Those are a series of non-consecutive and incomplete quotes from Karl Marx.
Ok....Some of Chomski's views expressed on college campuses in speeches....
"Chomsky rejects the idea of a Jewish state and wants the destruction of Israel. He believes Jews do not deserve a homeland, while every other ethnic/religious group in the world does. He believes that Arabs should be able to settle in Israel at will, but Jews should not be able to settle in Arab countries (keep in mind that more than 800,000 Jews were kicked out of Arab countries in 1948).
Chomsky called the Yugoslavian revolution in the 1990s that included a genocide of tens of thousands of people a “successful social revolution.” This is pure hate speech.
Chomsky sponsored a party in Israel (Matzpen) that advocates for terrorism. Matzpen partnered with a terrorist group that carried out an attack on an elementary school that killed 22 children.
Chomsky calls the PLO the “heroes” of the 1982 Lebanon War. Meanwhile, the PLO raped and killed tens of thousands of Lebanese civilians before Israel kicked them out of Lebanon."
Noam Chomsky: A Jewish Anti-Semite
Whatever.
Most humans will judge a thinker and a writer on what he writes and what he says.
It's very noticeable that you aren't able to actually quote Chomsky himself.
I wish you the same fate..May he burn in eternal hellfire :fueltofir
May he rot in hell and shame on his family for keeping a brain dead man alive for 8 years.
He bore direct responsibility for the Qibya massacre, and indirect responsibility for Sabra and Shatila - the worse massacre against Palestinians ever committed.
Saying Sharon didn't order killings at Sabra and Shatilla because he didn't personally give the order is like saying Hitler didn't order the Holocaust, since he never personally gave such an order. . .
Actually he was defence minister and lied to the Prime Minister and the Cabinet. Sharon found excuse after excuse to extend the advance further than the 40 km that was agreed on. Everything collapsed on Sharon when his Christian terrorists were allowed and with IDF help, to commit one of the worst acts of terror in human history. And ultimately his actions killed the Prime Minister since he entered a deep depression when he realized Sharon had played him...
I'd say answer these questions and you'd have a leg to stand on....
Many years ago, you (Chomski) signed a petition that referred to Robert Faurisson (a Holocaust denier) as a “respected professor of literature who merely tried to make his findings public.” Would you sign that same petition today if you had the chance to do so?
You (Chomski) seem to blame most of the problems in the world on either the United States or Israel, which is exactly what al-Qaida and Iran do. Do you hold other views that are similar to those of al-Qaida and Iran?
You (Chomski) have in the past compared the United States to Nazi Germany. Can you explain how the two are alike?
The PLO raped, tortured, and murdered innocent civilians in Lebanon for years before the 1982 Lebanon War. Estimates put the death toll of civilians at the hands of the PLO at 100,000, with 250,000 wounded. You (Chomski) referred to the PLO as “heroes” in Lebanon; why do you consider them heroes?
In the past, you (Chomski) referred to the Yugoslavian revolution in the 1990s that resulted in a genocide of tens of thousands of people as a “successful social revolution.” What makes this genocide a “successful social revolution”?
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