If this was at the U.N. I would ask for an english translation of this gibberish.
Did you even read the post that the other poster objected to, or just react without reading the post like he did.
that is the dumbest analogy I have yet seen on this board.
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Isn't this a band? :mrgreen:Cheap debating trick.
I would prefer to give it up and have what I have paid in returned to me to invest how I see fit.
My age has nothing to do with it so I didn't vote in the poll.
The answer is yes regardless.
Its a crap question based on if personal greed will come into account. I have no personal greed when it comes to my principles. I have never wanted social security nor do I desire it now and if I live to be hundred and have nothing to show for myself I will think the same.
Btw, I'm 28.
I am seventy but I was given the option of leaving Social Security in 1966 and I did.
it has everything to do with it, it effects young people the most. but just worry about your future later i guess. - pshh, youve been hustled
im so glad you have such wonderful principles hopefully it'll get you far in life haha, but its called a safety net, and my principals tell me that even if im successful when i graduate, that not everyone is, so for the better future of my unsuccessful or unfortunate peers, please dont **** with thier safety net, i dont wanna see anymore old people dying a slow painful death like were in the middle ages.
im so glad you have such wonderful principles hopefully it'll get you far in life haha, but its called a safety net, and my principals tell me that even if im successful when i graduate, that not everyone is, so for the better future of my unsuccessful or unfortunate peers, please dont **** with thier safety net, i dont wanna see anymore old people dying a slow painful death like were in the middle ages.
lovelyLUDWIG said:im so glad you have such wonderful principles hopefully it'll get you far in life haha, but its called a safety net, and my principals tell me that even if im successful when i graduate, that not everyone is, so for the better future of my unsuccessful or unfortunate peers, please dont **** with thier safety net, i dont wanna see anymore old people dying a slow painful death like were in the middle ages.
I recall a member on another board, very conservative, who touted the investing of his SS. He lost a crap load the last Wllstreet down turn. He admitted his error in thinking. If your young enough, you can recover from these things, but if they happen late, you lose. A gamble is a gamble, always.
I am seventy but I was given the option of leaving Social Security in 1966 and I did.
Where do people get the idea that workers are going to save up just like me? Get rid of a government mandated retirement plan and you are deciding that you would like to pay for all the people who just couldn't save. Not because thy were reckless but because they could only sacrifice so mch.
A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds that a majority of retirees say they expect their current benefits to be cut, a dramatic increase in the number who hold that view. And a record six of 10 non-retirees predict Social Security won't be able to pay them benefits when they stop working.
Skepticism is highest among the youngest workers: Three-fourths of those 18 to 34 don't expect to get a Social Security check when they retire....
Id like to know where CPwill got that gallup poll from..because its not on gallups site, unless I missed it
Heres an interesting poll, most americans back the unions against the governors that are attacking them
It's not a retirement plan. Retirement plans involve a lot more than contributions over time -- they also involve careful investment, monitoring of assets, occasional changes in distribution to go with a risk tolerance that changes over time. They also involve the fact that at some point you get access to everything you put in, minus losses or plus profits over time.
Social Security is me paying into a pit that someone else gets a pittance out of, the "surplus" of which is shoveled into the ginormous potholes in the Federal budget process.
In other words, it's Bernie Madoff's wet dream -- a Ponzi scheme by government fiat..
I remember something from years and years ago, the late eighties maybe, that said people of Generation X were more likely to believe in extraterrestrials visiting Earth than they were to believe they would get SS
Hell no. Even as a conservative I paid into it all these years, damn skippy I want my money back.
A. it's not "your" money.
B. the money you paid into it is long, long, long gone.
C. continuing the system as it is (along with Medicare) will bankrupt the nation, so;
D. you might as well get used to the fact that it's not going to happen.
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