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[Once More]

no, he doesn't control the Senate voting - YOU said he controls the Govt, I never did


they passed the CR for the Senate to then pass = its not on the House anymore




then WHY is Trump wanting this shutdown ? you've got to show your reasoning why he'd want it for your theory to hold water

Have you listened to anything the Orange A****** has said since the shut down happened?
He has told you many reasons why he likes the government being shut down.
No oversight.
He can do whatever he wants with the money.
He can permanently cut whatever programs he wants to.
He can fire anyone he wants to.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

no, he doesn't control the Senate voting - YOU said he controls the Govt, I never did

No, we are past that point, you are going backwards, you lost track. I said he doesn't care if Congress is in session, it is your turn to show he does care.

they passed the CR for the Senate to then pass = its not on the House anymore

I didn't say it was in the House, I said he doesn't care.

then WHY is Trump wanting this shutdown ?

He doesn't want Dems to have our new rep sworn in and have the Epstein files released.
Don doesn't care if Congress is in session.

you've got to show your reasoning why he'd want it for your theory to hold water

Again, what efforts has he made to get Congress back? It is not a priority, he has golf and the dance hall, boats to blow up, money to Milie, lots of distractions.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Have you listened to anything the Orange A****** has said since the shut down happened?
He has told you many reasons why he likes the government being shut down.
No oversight.
He can do whatever he wants with the money.
He can permanently cut whatever programs he wants to.
He can fire anyone he wants to.

Ok, lets assume the above is true - do you think Senate Democrats knows this ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

No, we are past that point, you are going backwards, you lost track. I said he doesn't care if Congress is in session, it is your turn to show he does care.

I didn't say it was in the House, I said he doesn't care.

He doesn't want Dems to have our new rep sworn in and have the Epstein files released.
Don doesn't care if Congress is in session.

Again, what efforts has he made to get Congress back? It is not a priority, he has golf and the dance hall, boats to blow up, money to Milie, lots of distractions.

he's not in the Senate voting - Democrats and Republican Senators are

 

[Captain Adverse]

Have you listened to anything the Orange A****** has said since the shut down happened?
He has told you many reasons why he likes the government being shut down.
No oversight.
He can do whatever he wants with the money.
He can permanently cut whatever programs he wants to.
He can fire anyone he wants to.

But ONLY if the Democrats in the Senate continue refusing to vote on the clean Continuing Resolution.

IMO the Democrats fell into the trap that benefits Trump due to their own hubris. I repeat, they did not think it through and so they ended up giving Trump the power to decide which government sectors get paid, and which do not. It also allows him to fire personnel which he is happy to do since he considers the Federal Government is full of useless personnel bloat.

One way to cut costs is to eliminate useless agencies, and fire unnecessary personnel. The shutdown has given him that power and the longer it stays shut down the more government bloat Trump can eliminate.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

he's not in the Senate voting

Nobody said he is, you are saying absurd crap. Donny doesn't care if Congress is in session

- Democrats and Republican Senators are

Donny doesn't care. You can't show he does.

 

[SavannahMann]

Ok, lets assume the above is true - do you think Senate Democrats knows this ?

And what power do Senate Democrats have again? How exactly would they prevent any of these abuses?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

But ONLY if the Democrats in the Senate continue refusing to vote on the clean Continuing Resolution.

IMO the Democrats fell into the trap that benefits Trumps due to their own hubris. I repeat, they did not think it through and so they ended up giving Trump the power to decide which government sectors get paid, and which do not. It also allows him to fire personnel which he is happy to do since he considers the Federal Government is full of useless personnel bloat.

One way to cut costs is to eliminate useless agencies, and fire unnecessary personnel. The shutdown has given him that power and the longer it stays shut down the more government bloat Trump can eliminate.

Well done, you cite all sorts of reasons why Donny doesn't want Congress in session.

 

[hecatmoggie]

Nobody said he is, you are saying absurd crap. Donny doesn't care if Congress is in session

you said "don is in control of all govt."

are you crabbing on that statement ?

Donny doesn't care. You can't show he does.

WHY ? you need to show why you think that is true.

Unless of course, Senate is in control, and Trump is allowing the Senate to do what they do, its not on him at all is it ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

And what power do Senate Democrats have again? How exactly would they prevent any of these abuses?

so the Senate Democrats knows what you're saying .... and they must agree with what Trump is doing. Vote YES to continue funding the Fed Govt and they stop Trump in his tracks

right ?

 

[Once More]

Ok, lets assume the above is true - do you think Senate Democrats knows this ?

No. I know that Senate Democrats know this.
What I don’t know is WTF point you think you are making.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

you said "don is in control of all govt."

are you crabbing on that statement ?

We have already gone over that, you keep losing track of where we are. You are supposed to show that Donny wants Congress in session. You cant, so you keep going back in time.

WHY ? you need to show why you think that is true.

Again, I've gone over that, you are still lost in the conversation. He doesn't need Congress, he doesn't want the Epstein files released, he has no interest in Congress being in session

Unless of course, Senate is in control, and Trump is allowing the Senate to do what they do, its not on him at all is it ?

The Senate is in control of all branches of the govt? If thats what you want to argue, go for it.

You still can't show that Donny wants Congress in session.

 

[Once More]

But ONLY if the Democrats in the Senate continue refusing to vote on the clean Continuing Resolution.

IMO the Democrats fell into the trap that benefits Trump due to their own hubris. I repeat, they did not think it through and so they ended up giving Trump the power to decide which government sectors get paid, and which do not. It also allows him to fire personnel which he is happy to do since he considers the Federal Government is full of useless personnel bloat.

One way to cut costs is to eliminate useless agencies, and fire unnecessary personnel. The shutdown has given him that power and the longer it stays shut down the more government bloat Trump can eliminate.

Bullshit.
He only thinks he has all these powers. He doesn’t.
But you expect the Dems to be the victim of spousal abuse who think the only way to stop the abuse is to accept more of it.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Vote YES to continue funding the Fed Govt and they stop Trump in his tracks

Do you realize how stupid and wrong that comment is?

 

[hecatmoggie]

No. I know that Senate Democrats know this.
What I don’t know is WTF point you think you are making.

They are allowing Trump to do all these things by continuing to vote NO on the CR

right ? they are empowering him - they could stop all you say Trump is doing by voting to fund the Fed Govt, right ??

 

[hecatmoggie]

We have already gone over that, you keep losing track of where we are. You are supposed to show that Donny wants Congress in session. You cant, so you keep going back in time.

I never said he did - go back and prove I did or admit you're lying

you said "don is in control of all govt." ..... I asked WHY you believe that

Again, I've gone over that, you are still lost in the conversation. He doesn't need Congress, he doesn't want the Epstein files released, he has no interest in Congress being in session

you keep saying that and not saying WHY - remember what you said "don is in control of all govt."

The Senate is in control of all branches of the govt? If thats what you want to argue, go for it.

You still can't show that Donny wants Congress in session.

show mw where I ever said he did ? you must be confusing me with someone else (or point to where I said it)

 

[Gimmesometruth]

They are allowing Trump to do all these things by continuing to vote NO on the CR

Donny is not stopped by the shutdown or by a passage of the CR. Donny doesn't need Congress, he doesn't care if Congress is in session.

right ? they are empowering him - they could stop all you say Trump is doing by voting to fund the Fed Govt, right ??

No, who told you this? Why do you think passage of the CR "stops" Donny?

 

[hecatmoggie]

Do you realize how stupid and wrong that comment is?

so all that Trump is being claimed to be doing because the Fed Govt is shut down would still be in his power if the Fed Govt started up again ?

your side is very confused on what you're saying ... lets recap

you said "don is in control of all govt." ................. but clearly he isn't because he's not voting in the Senate is he ?

your side claims "No oversight.,He can do whatever he wants with the money.,He can permanently cut whatever programs he wants to.,He can fire anyone he wants to." ...... if this is true, then vote to open the Govt and take all that away, right ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

Donny is not stopped by the shutdown or by a passage of the CR. Donny doesn't need Congress, he doesn't care if Congress is in session.

why ?

No, who told you this? Why do you think passage of the CR "stops" Donny?

you said "don is in control of all govt." ................. but clearly he isn't because he's not voting in the Senate is he ?

your side claims "No oversight.,He can do whatever he wants with the money.,He can permanently cut whatever programs he wants to.,He can fire anyone he wants to." ...... if this is true, then vote to open the Govt and take all that away, right ?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

I never said he did - go back and prove I did or admit you're lying

I know you never said Donny wants Congress in session, you can't admit he wants it shutdown. He doesn't care if Congress is in session.

you said "don is in control of all govt." ..... I asked WHY you believe that

I answered it, you forgot, you keep going back in time because you can't admit he doesn't want Congress in session.

you keep saying that and not saying WHY - remember what you said "don is in control of all govt."

I've told you over and over why Donny doesn't want Congress in session, you just keep forgetting because you can't admit he doesn't want Congress in session.

show mw where I ever said he did ? you must be confusing me with someone else (or point to where I said it)

Ah, you have finally reached point of saying Donny doesn't care if Congress is in session.

Congrats. That was the point.

 

[trixare4kids]

We have a fat f*** in the White House who thinks he deserves to be king, who is actually delusional enough to think he is king.

We have a democratically elected president in the WH you happen to detest so, of course, you will call him juvenile names like king.

Did you catch the quip about the Time magazine cover? When he was complaining about the picture he said it looks like they put a crown on my head, but it’s a very tiny crown.

The alleged unflattering image accompanies a story praising his Gaza peace deal as a "triumph". So, the picture aside, the triumph is the peace deal he gets the credit for.

Trump has also appeared on more than 45 Time covers since 1989, not all of them flattering, though he's also been named Person of the Year twice (in 2016 and 2024). I would think he'll win it again for 2025 in light of brokering the peace deal in Gaza.

Normal Americans, those who despise his fascistic tendencies, are telling the wannabe king to go f*** himself.

Normal Americans don't go around calling the president a king or swear f-words at him because Kamala didn't beat him, but you do you.

The Trumpublicans are saying give me more sir.

Same old extreme leftist talking points, a different day.

 

[Jetboogieman]

But ONLY if the Democrats in the Senate continue refusing to vote on the clean Continuing Resolution.

IMO the Democrats fell into the trap that benefits Trump due to their own hubris. I repeat, they did not think it through and so they ended up giving Trump the power to decide which government sectors get paid, and which do not. It also allows him to fire personnel which he is happy to do since he considers the Federal Government is full of useless personnel bloat.

One way to cut costs is to eliminate useless agencies, and fire unnecessary personnel. The shutdown has given him that power and the longer it stays shut down the more government bloat Trump can eliminate.

Except for the massive state security apparatus right?

 

[Jetboogieman]

peace deal

It is not a peace deal.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

he's not voting in the Senate is he ?

He doesn't need to vote in the Senate to control little mike and little john.

I'm done, I got you to admit Donny doesn't care if Congress is in session:

You still can't show that Donny wants Congress in session.

show mw where I ever said he did ?

 

[hecatmoggie]

I know you never said Donny wants Congress in session,

thank you - I never said he did OR didn't

you can't admit he wants it shutdown. He doesn't care if Congress is in session.

no idea, I can't prove one way or the other

I answered it, you forgot, you keep going back in time because you can't admit he doesn't want Congress in session.

prove that please

I've told you over and over why Donny doesn't want Congress in session, you just keep forgetting because you can't admit he doesn't want Congress in session.
Ah, you have finally reached point of saying Donny doesn't care if Congress is in session.
Congrats. That was the point.

you are having a conversation with yourself, because I'm not saying anything you're accusing me of

you're a very poor discussionist today