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LOL...progressive socialists vote out of emotion, and large parts of dem constituents are told who to vote for by those who are paid cash to get them to the ballot box.
Why on Earth would anyone not rich vote Republican?
Please provide cite for that analysis.... you do know that if you can't back up your claim with 3rd party evidence that its not true.
"Education" past high school, is becoming a joke, these days.
What the hell does this even mean? Abortion? Gay marriage? God? What the hell does God have to do with how people vote? "Vote for Trump because he's God"?
Why do you keep pretending to be a moderate? if this is what you think represents the Republican Party, you're no moderate.
While I understand the thrust of your remark, and I'd challenge the other member to soundly/cogently substantiate his claim, I can't "get with" the back end of your "gauntlet" statement. Surely you know that isn't at all what makes an assertion be so?
The right is represented by the 1% and the morons that believe that the 1% are going to let that wealth "trickle down" to them. You have to be a moron to believe that. It's always trickle up. Nevertheless, the aforementioned morons, are pretty decent people that just want somebody to do their thinking for them, or present a mind numbing imagery "good guy," "bad guy" or simplified arguments with no complications. You see a great deal of that on this forum. Partisan points of view, uninterrupted by common sense, logic or reason.
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Like what? The Reign of Terror. Are their any other examples?Depends on what you mean by educated.
Certainly the left has more people with college degrees.... but in my opinion that seems to be a function of indoctrination/influence rather than education.
Intellectuals have always been responsible for almost all the greatest tragedies in human history. You do not get common sense and wisdom from education.
Conceptually, yes, that's about what's going on. In practice, that is not how it works. What plays out in the courtroom is the dialectic: argument, counterargument, rebuttal and conclusion. The defense does not get to implore the prosecution to produce anything; what the defense does, if it so chooses, is rebut positively the merit of the premises and inferences the prosecution presents.Think of debate as a court of law. The defendant may be guilty, but in the court you must prove his guilt. If you make an assertion, the defense attorney gets to demand that assertion be supported with evidence. The failure of the prosecution to support the allegation means that the allegation is withdrawn by those judging (the jury). You don't get to make unsubstantiated claims in a court of law nor in a debate (which, fundamentally a trial is).
The particular poster I called out continues to make wildass statements that he can support. It's time that he called out on it lest he will continue to be but a mosquito of discourse.
I listed several things. And, yes, people do vote because the Republican party believes in God more than the Democratic party does, like it or not. There is a fairly good size section which does not like gay marriage and is against the murder of life. Disagree with it all you want but many people do vote because of religion and God. Have you never even heard of the Evangelical vote? To the best of my knowledge, Evangelicals believe in God and are against gay marriage and abortion and won't vote Democratic because of these.
Yes, I know. I would have done the same. Indeed, in another thread I did more or less just that. Specifically, what I did wasThink of debate as a court of law. The defendant may be guilty, but in the court you must prove his guilt. If you make an assertion, the defense attorney gets to demand that assertion be supported with evidence. The failure of the prosecution to support the allegation means that the allegation is withdrawn by those judging (the jury). You don't get to make unsubstantiated claims in a court of law nor in a debate (which, fundamentally a trial is).
The particular poster I called out continues to make wildass statements that he can support. It's time that he called out on it lest he will continue to be but a mosquito of discourse.
Stalin was an intellectual...
Equal amounts, but as of late the Right is wearing it as a badge of honor.
Holy ****. You don't understand separation of church and state.
Yes, the Evangelicals who gave the man who admittedly broke numerous commandments a "mulligan" for his behavior? Yes, we all know about them.
Any idiot who votes because they think someone who they don't know believes in God, or because one's belief of lack of belief in God has anything to do with legislating in a country with the separation of church and state in our Constitution has no clue at all what the lawmakers in this country do, or what they are supposed to do.
I think, by the way, everyone is against the "murder of life". That's why murder is against the laws of this country. Who do you know supports murder?
Pew Research Center, SEPTEMBER 15, 2016
The contest for president between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is marked by an educational divide that is far wider than in past elections.
In Pew Research Center’s August survey, registered voters with a college degree or more education favor Clinton over Trump by 23 percentage points (52% Clinton vs. 29% Trump) in a four-way contest that included Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson (supported by 11% of voters with at least a college degree) and Green Party candidate Jill Stein (4%).
By contrast, voters who do not have a college degree were more divided in their preferences: 41% backed Trump, 36% Clinton, 9% Johnson and 5% Stein.
If the gap between Clinton and Trump holds in November, it will be the widest educational divide in any election in the last several decades. And the current gap is particularly pronounced among white voters...
Among white voters in the current election, college graduates support Clinton over Trump by a 14-point margin (47% Clinton vs. 33% Trump), while those without college degrees back Trump over Clinton by an even larger 25-point margin (51% Trump vs. 26% Clinton), according to the Center’s survey conducted Aug. 9-16.
Educational divide in vote preferences on track to be wider than in recent elections | Pew Research Center
Like what? The Reign of Terror. Are their any other examples?
Intellectuals are among the first to be persecuted because they are the biggest threats to despots. Intellectualism lifted us out of barbarism and savagery. Countries and civilizations that encourage free thought and listen to the advice of experts thrive. Ones that don't turn bloody.
Nazism was very much an anti-intellectual movement, hence the prevalence of completely incompetent people in high leadership positions. Communism has similar groundings and is fueled by proletariat anger. The response to the Hundred Flowers movement is proof enough of that. The Church has a long history of bloody purges of intellectuals. The Islamic world was the pinnacle of civilization and human achievement until anti-intellectual forces began to dominate.
Yes, I know. I would have done the same. Indeed, in another thread I did more or less just that. Specifically, what I did was
- Recognize that the OP-er's assertion is heterodox.
- Present the orthodoxy and the proofs for its legitimacy.
- Ask him to justify his position with specific reference to how it fits into well understood, proven and accepted principles. Of course, as an implicit alternative, he may if he cares to and is able to, present a treatise that shows that those principles are indeed invalid, whereupon he need not reconcile his claim with the orthodoxy, instead needing only to present the merits of his position and the empirical proofs that support it. (Frankly, I don't imagine the member will pursue the latter tack for, as goes his assertion, that would be stuff worth of a Nobel prize in economics. Were I to present something of that nature, here'd be the last place I'd initially present it.)
My point when I responded to you was and remains that third party support is not all that can make a statement/proposition true.
I do agree. Well done!
However, I do not like lazy posters that state impressions as fact and can not support them. Especially when those impressions are simply off the wall and thus somewhat offensive, as was the case with the poster I challenged. I am not a lazy poster (if you read my posts you would see they are generally well supported), but I don't always want to do the work to disprove the positions (though I often do) that I know they can not defend. I want them to up their game to defend themselves and learn in the process.
They, or I, might learn something if they can produce some type of evidence to defend their statements.
We've already had facts from other elections which prove that in some elections, more uneducated vote for Republicans and in some elections more uneducated vote for Democrats. As usual, your side cherry picks the information which proves your side. Evidence shows that it is actually 50/50, depending on which election you want to cherry pick.
Pew Research Center, MARCH 20, 2018
As the 2018 midterm elections approach, women and especially college graduates have moved toward the Democratic Party. By contrast, the Republican Party’s advantage in leaned party identification among white voters without a college degree has never been greater, dating back more than two decades...
Voters who have completed college make up a third of all registered voters. And a majority of all voters with at least a four-year college degree (58%) now identify as Democrats or lean Democratic, the highest share dating back to 1992. Just 36% affiliate with the Republican Party or lean toward the GOP. The much larger group of voters who do not have a four-year degree is more evenly divided in partisan affiliation. And voters with no college experience have been moving toward the GOP: 47% identify with or lean toward the Republican Party, up from 42% in 2014.
Wide Gender Gap, Growing Educational Divide in Voters? Party Identification | Pew Research Center
Pew Research Center, MARCH 20, 2018
As the 2018 midterm elections approach, women and especially college graduates have moved toward the Democratic Party. By contrast, the Republican Party’s advantage in leaned party identification among white voters without a college degree has never been greater, dating back more than two decades...
Voters who have completed college make up a third of all registered voters. And a majority of all voters with at least a four-year college degree (58%) now identify as Democrats or lean Democratic, the highest share dating back to 1992. Just 36% affiliate with the Republican Party or lean toward the GOP. The much larger group of voters who do not have a four-year degree is more evenly divided in partisan affiliation. And voters with no college experience have been moving toward the GOP: 47% identify with or lean toward the Republican Party, up from 42% in 2014.
Wide Gender Gap, Growing Educational Divide in Voters? Party Identification | Pew Research Center
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