Are the dems getting desperate? [W:33]

[clownboy]

Don't even do them the favor of equating them. Recent tax records are relevant to a candidate's qualifications. College transcripts from 30+ years ago ... not so much.

Romney has released "recent tax records". You reframe the bit about college transcripts and discount the importance of his writings because he's your guy. Shaky ground Adam.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Ridiculous question! The release of tax returns by POTUS candidates is usual and customary; showing your college transcript to anyone other than your first employer, your graduate school or your mom is highly unusual to absurd. Why not ask your doctor on your next visit if you can see his college record?

When was the last time you asked your doctor for his tax records? See how this works?

 

[Redress]

Don't even do them the favor of equating them. Recent tax records are relevant to a candidate's qualifications. College transcripts from 30+ years ago ... not so much.

Which qualifications are those?

 

[upsideguy]

When was the last time you asked your doctor for his tax records? See how this works?

You have missed my point, which is asking for transcripts is a false equivalent of asking Back to what is usual and customary (for POTUS and COTUS candidates); personal items are not.

 

[clownboy]

You have missed my point, which is asking for transcripts is a false equivalent of asking Back to what is usual and customary (for POTUS and COTUS candidates); personal items are not.

So you're saying nobody knew and nobody cared about Bush's college transcripts? This was/is a guy that runs on being a constitutional scholar. His transcripts and his writings of the time are indeed germaine.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

You have missed my point, which is asking for transcripts is a false equivalent of asking Back to what is usual and customary (for POTUS and COTUS candidates); personal items are not.

You made your point badly. And it is completely appropriate to ask for ALL records of someone who is running for President. It goes to character and ability.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Pointless to put this out since it isnt everything but here is a page with links to various financial disclosures and documents:
Introduction | Mitt Romney for President

 

[Redress]

So you're saying nobody knew and nobody cared about Bush's college transcripts? This was/is a guy that runs on being a constitutional scholar. His transcripts and his writings of the time are indeed germaine.

Really? Perhaps you can show me where in his website he is heavily promoting that fact: Barack Obama. You can point me to all his election speeches where he makes it a point to bring that up.

One of us is consistent. I don't think Obama's college records nor Romney's tax records are important.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Really? Perhaps you can show me where in his website he is heavily promoting that fact: Barack Obama. You can point me to all his election speeches where he makes it a point to bring that up.

One of us is consistent. I don't think Obama's college records nor Romney's tax records are important.

Uhh, it was a constant talking point when he was running in 2008. Now? Hes using Presidential experience, the "constitutional scholar" thing isnt being pushed---but it sure was in 2008.

 

[Redress]

Uhh, it was a constant talking point when he was running in 2008. Now? Hes using Presidential experience, the "constitutional scholar" thing isnt being pushed---but it sure was in 2008.

Funny, I don't remember him making a big deal out of it then. Perhaps you can actually show some evidence you are not making this up.

 

[Boo Radley]

So you're saying nobody knew and nobody cared about Bush's college transcripts? This was/is a guy that runs on being a constitutional scholar. His transcripts and his writings of the time are indeed germaine.

I knew. Didn't care much, though it bothered when a student try to excuse his poor work as being equal to the president's. Lame excuse. What happens in an election cycle is both sides look for bs to push to tar the other candidate. This is one reason why they seldom give any specifics or let much out. I don't care for the process. And it takes attention away form useful information. I real debate over how they will govern. Despite oppposition hyperbole, Obama has not been a disaster. As best I can tell, Romney offers nothing significant in terms of either leadership or policy. What little difference there is, for me, works against him. He is particular weak in leadership, and too willing to change with tide (something Bush wasn't willing to do). On that front, Obama is somewhere between the two, and I think that makes himmbetter than both.

But, what we won't get, and we are the ones to blame, is a real discussion of differences and why they stand where they stand.

 

[Darrell]

Almost 6 trillion added to the national debt in just 4 yrs, unemployment at over 8% for over 40 months, and an economy stuck at 1.5% GDP. This is what your guy has to run on.

Umm, he helped have cars more fuel efficient, orderd the assassinations of many senior Al-Quade members, withdrew all our troops from Iraq, helped get rid of the Libya dictator, argued repeatedly with the WTF (World Trade Federation) against China, because they are raising tarrifs and taxes are goods to high. Umm, he helped get us an awesome healthcare system, improved benefits for veterans, helped decrease the U.S jail population for the first time in 10 years, helping the fight towards gay-marriage. There is alot he has done, but he doesn't brag about it. Do you know why? It's because it's his job. So, next time it would help if you did a little research before you run your mouth.

 

[Bronson]

You made your point badly. And it is completely appropriate to ask for ALL records of someone who is running for President. It goes to character and ability.

Yea I'm sure you were there standing on your soapbox demanding 20 years of Bill Clinton and John Kerry's tax returns or something when they ran for president

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Yea I'm sure you were there standing on your soapbox demanding 20 years of Bill Clinton and John Kerry's tax returns or something when they ran for president

Prove that I didn't.

 

[johnny_rebson]

Yet liberals continue to bash rich white people.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

Yet liberals continue to bash rich white people.

Unless you are trying to be funny, this may be the most misguided, idiotic, and hackish post in the history of DP. HE WAS MAKING A JOKE.

 

[clownboy]

Funny, I don't remember him making a big deal out of it then. Perhaps you can actually show some evidence you are not making this up.

Then you weren't paying attention to the race in 08.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/us/politics/30law.html?pagewanted=all

Around the Keg: Barack Obama: Constitutional Scholar, Patriot, President,...Brewer?

Inside Professor Obama's Classroom - NYTimes.com

Constitutional Scholar Obama Questions Legality of Slavery Ban | Conservative News, Views & Books

Endorsing Obama

Google is your friend. There's hundreds more.

 

[Redress]

Then you weren't paying attention to the race in 08.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/us/politics/30law.html?pagewanted=all

Around the Keg: Barack Obama: Constitutional Scholar, Patriot, President,...Brewer?

Inside Professor Obama's Classroom - NYTimes.com

Constitutional Scholar Obama Questions Legality of Slavery Ban | Conservative News, Views & Books

Endorsing Obama

Google is your friend. There's hundreds more.

You didn't read those did you? Hint: one of them is an Ann Coulter piece with a sarcastic title. Most of the rest are not part of the Obama campaign, but stories about Obama. Nice try though.

 

[clownboy]

You didn't read those did you? Hint: one of them is an Ann Coulter piece with a sarcastic title. Most of the rest are not part of the Obama campaign, but stories about Obama. Nice try though.

Again, not my fault if you can't use google and you conveniently cannot remember the 2008 election season. I was an early Obama supporter in that campaign. I know what was said about him, I knew the talking points. It was brought up a lot to counter the fact he had virtually no experience.

 

[AdamT]

Again, not my fault if you can't use google and you conveniently cannot remember the 2008 election season. I was an early Obama supporter in that campaign. I know what was said about him, I knew the talking points. It was brought up a lot to counter the fact he had virtually no experience.

What on earth do undergraduate transcripts have to do with the fact that he was a constitutional law professor? He got that position because he was editor of Harvard Law Review, and because he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. The fact that he graduated magna indicates that he graduated at least in the top 15% of his class. What else do you need to know about that?

 

[clownboy]

What on earth do undergraduate transcripts have to do with the fact that he was a constitutional law professor? He got that position because he was editor of Harvard Law Review, and because he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law. The fact that he graduated magna indicates that he graduated at least in the top 15% of his class. What else do you need to know about that?

Personally, I don't care about his transcripts (though there's the old comeback, what's he hiding?), you keep avoiding that I'm wanting to see his papers, his writings.

I want to see what this magna cum laude, editor of the law review, constitutional scholar was writing about. Certainly informative considering the raft of constitutional questions a president faces.

 

[AdamT]

Personally, I don't care about his transcripts (though there's the old comeback, what's he hiding?), you keep avoiding that I'm wanting to see his papers, his writings.

What papers? What writings? You realize that anything he published is, by definition, public, right?

 

[Czernobog]

Why would "the dems" be getting desperate? Now, polls on any given day, don't mean ****, so I would actually advise you to look at the map over the past several months. The story it tells is quite interesting, although probably a bit disappointing to the Republicans. You see, the story it tells is that nothing Romney, and the right has been trying has help; not his insistence that Obama is destroying the economy, not the Affordable Care Act, nothing. Hell, even the last three months of less than happy jobs reports hasn't had the effect that everyone on the right was sooooo sure it would. According to the electoral map, Obama is doing just fine. I have been saying all along that this election is not Romney's to win - it is Obama's to lose.

 

[clownboy]

What papers? What writings? You realize that anything he published is, by definition, public, right?

No, you're incorrect. The university keeps them and will only release them to the public with the consent of the author. Obama will not give that consent.

If you think I'm wrong, find any of his papers from that time and link them here.

However, many things regarding the future President's time at these colleges have remained private. Under order of the Obama campaign, all information not directly allowed published by Obama himself, is not to be disclosed to any media. These included grades, attendance records, rewards received, and papers submitted.

Source

 

[Boo Radley]

Yet liberals continue to bash rich white people.

Only in republican fanasty world. :coffeepap