Are NRA members generally more dangerous people than non members? [W:629]

[Cardinal]

Quite true. Just look at the antifa, who are for violence and property destruction, against the police and all authority, and are for anarchy. And yet liberals cozy up to them as heroes.

Yeah, they were a real big deal for a week or two back in...August, was it? They didn't actually kill anybody...ever...(unlike the Nazi who killed a woman with his car), but yeah, the next time they show up I hope the Avengers are around to restore order.

 

[X Factor]

why are you making this a poll? I mean seriously of course not, people are all different.

Sometimes I really just want to know what people think. I do have generally positive ideas about the NRA, because I support the second amendment, but I'm not a member myself so I don't have that personal connection to the organization. I mean, while the NRA isn't one, I can think of membership in certain groups that would lead me to think a person was more dangerous or violent. Can't you?

 

[calamity]

Sorry but this NRA member doesn't have any use for those who want a goose stepping fascist country where the military pretends it is superior to civilians or thinks they should have rights that others cannot enjoy.

Ah, so bone spurs kept you out of the military too then. Huh?

 

[MAGAnificent]

If you limit to that you are ignoring the dangerous threat their ideas and political actions present to others and the nation as a whole.

But its your poll - so define it the way you want to. Thanks for the prompt answer.

Favoring our second amendment rights as this nation's founders did is dangerous threats and ideas?

 

[TurtleDude]

Cult fits

only to those who are unable to get over the fact that Trump won the election and try to salve their butt hurt by attacking the NRA because it supported Trump.

 

[calamity]

Quite true. Just look at the antifa, who are for violence and property destruction, against the police and all authority, and are for anarchy. And yet liberals cozy up to them as heroes.

Oh noes....Antifa!

 

[X Factor]

Quite true. Just look at the antifa, who are for violence and property destruction, against the police and all authority, and are for anarchy. And yet liberals cozy up to them as heroes.

It is puzzling to me that many of the same people who believe cops to be racist murderers who can't be trusted also seem to be the same people that think only cops should be allowed to have guns.

 

[calamity]

only to those who are unable to get over the fact that Trump won the election and try to salve their butt hurt by attacking the NRA because it supported Trump.

No, I attack the NRA like I would any other zealots. It just so happens though, that most zealots happen to love their extremist leader. So, be it cult of the NRA, Jesus, Trump, etc....allduhsame.

 

[TurtleDude]

Ah, so bone spurs kept you out of the military too then. Huh?

lets see-in 1977 Jimmy Carter was the commander in Chief. There was no draft and no war. No one in my HS class even considered the military. On December 15th or so I was accepted under Yale's Early Action Admissions program. A couple months later, I was accepted at Amherst University. Four years later, Reagan was the president. There was no draft. There was no war. Burl Branham of the US Army Marksmanship Unit had approached me at the 1980 Olympic Trials and asked me if I was interested in enlisting in the US Army and joining the US Army shooting team since I was both the former JO national Skeet champion, and an All-American. I told him I'd let him know by the end of the first semester in my senior year. Before the Christmas Break, I had already been accepted into three top law schools. I called him and said after discussing things with my father I had decided to go to law school. He told me the employment opportunities for Ivy League Law graduates was a bit better than NCOs who were army skeet shooters. 8 years later I won a couple major skeet titles and actually was leading another Olympic trials before I sustained a minor eye injury that knocked me out of contention. A couple of the army shooters who knew my background noted I was still shooting well enough to compete with the army-indeed the all civilian team I was on beat both the army and the USMC shooting teams to win the NT trophy.

So I don't know what you are are trying to insinuate but If I had joined the military, I would have shot skeet and trap on the public's dime for four years.

 

[MSgt]

Sorry but this NRA member doesn't have any use for those...

...and done.

I was an NRA member back in 2004. After three combat deployments abroad in two separate theaters (by 2004), I grew up. I realized the difference between me, who understood and fully appreciated my rights in America, and those who do not and merely think they do simply because they were lucky enough to born in the right place while abusing my Right by insisting that the lowest denominator define "our" Rights. You, dear turtle whatever, are the threat to my Right.

 

[TurtleDude]

No, I attack the NRA like I would any other zealots. It just so happens though, that most zealots happen to love their extremist leader. So, be it cult of the NRA, Jesus, Trump, etc....allduhsame.

stop lying. Your frantic posts about the NRA are based on nothing more than some sort of need to salve your own hurt over Trump winning. anyone who claims the NRA are zealots in the gun control war proves he's either dishonest, ignorant or so far left on the issue that anyone who supports second amendment rights, is seen as radical

 

[X Factor]

No, I attack the NRA like I would any other zealots. It just so happens though, that most zealots happen to love their extremist leader. So, be it cult of the NRA, Jesus, Trump, etc....allduhsame.

But to you, an extremist is just someone who disagrees. I often find your hostility pretty extreme and would term you an extremist in certain ways.

 

[calamity]

lets see-in 1977 Jimmy Carter was the commander in Chief. There was no draft and no war. No one in my HS class even considered the military. On December 15th or so I was accepted under Yale's Early Action Admissions program. A couple months later, I was accepted at Amherst University. Four years later, Reagan was the president. There was no draft. There was no war. Burl Branham of the US Army Marksmanship Unit had approached me at the 1980 Olympic Trials and asked me if I was interested in enlisting in the US Army and joining the US Army shooting team since I was both the former JO national Skeet champion, and an All-American. I told him I'd let him know by the end of the first semester in my senior year. Before the Christmas Break, I had already been accepted into three top law schools. I called him and said after discussing things with my father I had decided to go to law school. He told me the employment opportunities for Ivy League Law graduates was a bit better than NCOs who were army skeet shooters. 8 years later I won a couple major skeet titles and actually was leading another Olympic trials before I sustained a minor eye injury that knocked me out of contention. A couple of the army shooters who knew my background noted I was still shooting well enough to compete with the army-indeed the all civilian team I was on beat both the army and the USMC shooting teams to win the NT trophy.

So I don't know what you are are trying to insinuate but If I had joined the military, I would have shot skeet and trap on the public's dime for four years.

You're the one who seems to insist on playing tin soldier. So, I wondered why you never joined the boom-boom brigade.

 

[TurtleDude]

...and done.

I was an NRA member back in 2004. After three combat deployments abroad in two separate theaters (by 2004), I grew up. I realized the difference between me, who understood and fully appreciated my rights in America, and those who do not and merely think they do simply because they were lucky enough to born in the right place while abusing my Right by insisting that the lowest denominator define "our" Rights. You, dear turtle whatever, are the threat to my Right.

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sorry dude, this isn't Starship Troopers and if you take the oath you took seriously, you best stow your anti second amendment nonsense

 

[TurtleDude]

You're the one who seems to insist on playing tin soldier. So, I wondered why you never joined the boom-boom brigade.

You still haven't explained why you are so upset about the NRA-we know why but we want to hear it from you

btw civilian tactical use of firearms has very little to do with the military. In the military, the consequences for missed shots is not nearly as damning as in a civilian environment.

 

[TurtleDude]

It is puzzling to me that many of the same people who believe cops to be racist murderers who can't be trusted also seem to be the same people that think only cops should be allowed to have guns.

Its a dilemma for leftwing statists-they tend to identify with criminals and hate cops (who often are more conservative than their leadership in even big liberal run cities) but they also love big government.

 

[calamity]

But to you, an extremist is just someone who disagrees. I often find your hostility pretty extreme and would term you an extremist in certain ways.

Of course. I'm a centrist. So, everyone to my Left or Right is by definition extreme.

 

[apdst]

Screw em with logic!

:lamo

 

[Fearandloathing]

Thank you.

If #1 is correct, in that they have called for something that broad based, I would also have a problem with it.

2... while the devil is in the details I have long said we messed up in the 80s when we closed down most of the state asylums and de-funded a lot of mental health. Granted there were abuses in the past... but in LE I encountered many individuals who clearly *needed* to be institutionalized rather than in prison, but there were no beds to be had for them.

3... well I just flat disagree that this is a racial issue.

Among the examples of school shootings, how many have there been were the perpetrator(s) were "mentally ill".

The second point is, where do you draw the line? Who draws it. Years ago there was a law here that said mentally ill people could not associate with one another...it got used a lot on drunks.

 

[calamity]

stop lying. Your frantic posts about the NRA are based on nothing more than some sort of need to salve your own hurt over Trump winning. anyone who claims the NRA are zealots in the gun control war proves he's either dishonest, ignorant or so far left on the issue that anyone who supports second amendment rights, is seen as radical

You just fail to see how much of a zealot you are on this issue. It's been pointed out to you by many others, not just me.

 

[lurchadams]

What do you think? Attaching poll.

Not that holding extreme opinions can be considered, "dangerous", but the majority of NRA members are reasonable, sensible, law abiding people.

 

[X Factor]

Of course. I'm a centrist. So, everyone to my Left or Right is by definition extreme.

Ok, I don’t doubt you perceive yourself that way but it seems to me you tend to be pretty one sided, like calling the NRA a cult yet defending antifa.

 

[Cardinal]

Ok, I don’t doubt you perceive yourself that way but it seems to me you tend to be pretty one sided, like calling the NRA a cult yet defending antifa.

Who's antifa again?

 

[X Factor]

Oh noes....Antifa!

You don’t think antifa are zealots or do they just happen to be zealots you’re ok with?

 

[Perotista]

What do you think? Attaching poll.

I don't think so. As far as I know not one mass shooter or school shooter was a member of the NRA. I would say NRA member are probably the safest gun owners around.