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Are dems in the Senate giving aid to the enemy by asking for a date for withdrawal?

Are the dems in the senate giving aid to the enemy by asking for a withdrawal date?

  • Yes, the terrorists know all they have to do it wait us out then.

    Votes: 34 61.8%
  • no, cut and run like we did in Nam is the best thing to do.

    Votes: 21 38.2%

  • Total voters
    55
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Navy Pride said:
OK let me try and explain it to you.......By the way he is cute.....

We used that philosphy with Bin Laden under Clinton....We just ignored him until 9/11/01.... He was even offered to us on a silver platter by Sudan but Clinton was to busy playing patti cakes with Monica to accept him...... We will probably never know if Saddam had WOMD when we invade Iraq........We do know that he had them at one time because he used them on his own people.....We know that he was actively pursuing a dirty bomb and in a matter of time would have either used it here or gave it to a terrorist organization to use............Saddam is a madman and we could not let that happened.............We waited under Clinton until we were hit and we would not make the same mistake again

As far as Bin Laden goes he is a non factor now........He has not been heard of in almost a year and is either cowering in some cave in Pakistan or was killed by the earthquake that hit there......

I can only hope Bin Laden was killed in an earthquake. If he (Hussein) did have WMD he would have probably used them on Israel. Who Knows???????? I am glad he was captured.

I still think we are threatened by the Muslim Cults........

Thank you for complimenting my son.
 
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Scarecrow Akhbar said:
No, really. Calling towelheads "sand niggers" would be the equivalent of calling blacks "niggers", wouldn't you think?

But I find it often necessary to spice my posts up with such little gems because otherwise the liberals and Surrender Monkeys can't find anything to say in response.


Very True, there are decent Muslims. Do not confuse them with the radicals.
 
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alphieb said:
Of course they won't be in "vain". I have the utmost respect for our heroes. However, Lets put "those brave men where we truly need them". Is Iraq the place?

I know this is nothing compared to Nam......But when will it end? Besides, Nam was warrented....This my dear IS NOT.....

They will have died in vain if we cut and run........

I don't know when will it end.......No one does.......The president says the war on terror will be a long one......I am just glad we are fighting the war in the streets of Iraq rather then the streets of the USA........
 
alphieb said:
I can only hope Bin Laden was killed in an earthquake. If he (Hussein) did have WMD he would have probably used them on Israel. Who Knows???????? I am glad he was captured.

I still think we are threatened by the Muslim Cults........

Thank you for complimenting my son.

Except for the war in Iraq I think you and I agree on more then we disagree on...........
 
First of all, Bin laden was not offered to Clinton...that's a deliberate distortion of the facts, and Navy Pride should know better. But enough about Clinton...I don't need to defend him since polls show a majority of Americans believe Clinton to be more honest and trustworthy then Bush.

As far as Iraq...we now have democratically elected leaders of the Kurdish, Sunnui, and Shiite's that want a timetable established for all U.S. troops to withdraw. Each leader of these factions have stated they want U.S. troops to leave Iraqi soil.

That means no permanent bases...no temporary bases...no nothing.

Iraq is split into 3 factions, as described above. Each of these factions will be loyal to their sectarian leaders, and not to any future central government that is established. Do any of us believe that the Sunnui's will be loyal to a government controlled by a majority of Shiites? Do any of you believe the Kurds will be loyal to a central government?

If you do, you're living in a dream world. The democracy that Bush proposes will never be the democracy that Bush envisions. It ain't gonna happen folks. The worst case scenario is civil war...the best case is a fractured nation, much like Lebanon, with different leaders representing their respective people with no thought of compromise, and outright suspicion and distrust of the other factions. It has been this way for generations and will continue to be this way.

Bush has led us into an impossible scenario. I predict that the U.S. will maintain a military prescence in Iraq until the day each of us dies, or the U.S. goes bankrupt from the irresponsible spending and borrowing of this fiscally retarded president. Remember...you heard it here first.
 
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Navy Pride said:
They will have died in vain if we cut and run........

I don't know when will it end.......No one does.......The president says the war on terror will be a long one......I am just glad we are fighting the war in the streets of Iraq rather then the streets of the USA........

Despite whether I agree or disagree with this war.....I will say this, now is not the time to pull out and run....that would be a disaster and as an American (even though a dem) I don't want to see that.

GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.......
 
Hoot said:
First of all, Bin laden was not offered to Clinton...that's a deliberate distortion of the facts, and Navy Pride should know better. But enough about Clinton...I don't need to defend him since polls show a majority of Americans believe Clinton to be more honest and trustworthy then Bush.

As far as Iraq...we now have democratically elected leaders of the Kurdish, Sunnui, and Shiite's that want a timetable established for all U.S. troops to withdraw. Each leader of these factions have stated they want U.S. troops to leave Iraqi soil.

That means no permanent bases...no temporary bases...no nothing.

Iraq is split into 3 factions, as described above. Each of these factions will be loyal to their sectarian leaders, and not to any future central government that is established. Do any of us believe that the Sunnui's will be loyal to a government controlled by a majority of Shiites? Do any of you believe the Kurds will be loyal to a central government?

If you do, you're living in a dream world. The democracy that Bush proposes will never be the democracy that Bush envisions. It ain't gonna happen folks. The worst case scenario is civil war...the best case is a fractured nation, much like Lebanon, with different leaders representing their respective people with no thought of compromise, and outright suspicion and distrust of the other factions. It has been this way for generations and will continue to be this way.

Bush has led us into an impossible scenario. I predict that the U.S. will maintain a military prescence in Iraq until the day each of us dies, or the U.S. goes bankrupt from the irresponsible spending and borrowing of this fiscally retarded president. Remember...you heard it here first.

Hoot you are just wrong my friend.......


http://www.infowars.com/saved pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm


By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.

I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
 
Clition is more honset & trustworthy then Bush? What a surreal world you live in. Do you hear yourself saying "the colors, the colors"..... liberals are anything but.
 
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alphieb said:
Despite whether I agree or disagree with this war.....I will say this, now is not the time to pull out and run....that would be a disaster and as an American (even though a dem) I don't want to see that.

GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.......

Thank you...Tell Congressman Murtha that please becasue for whatever reason it seems he has lost the stomach to finish the job in Iraq.........
 
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Navy Pride said:
Thank you...Tell Congressman Murtha that please becasue for whatever reason it seems he has lost the stomach to finish the job in Iraq.........

It would be an utter disaster.....(hellow common sense).....I Love my country, but don't want to OUR men killed. I can only hope when we wthdrawal and they will have a democracy, but Navy Pride, I just don't see it happening. There is WAY, there is too much anomosity over there.

As a Dem, I should promote the same elsewhere?
 
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Navy Pride said:
Thank you...Tell Congressman Murtha that please becasue for whatever reason it seems he has lost the stomach to finish the job in Iraq.........

Why don't you tell Bush?

The democratically elected leaders of Iraq have asked for a timetable for all U.S. troops to withdraw. Isn't that the new flip-flop reason why we are in Iraq? To establish a democracy? Well....the democracy has spoken.

Why let that bungling Bush decide when U.S. troops leave? Allow the democracy of Iraq to make this decision..in otherwords, put up or shutup about establishing democracy and allow it to work.
 
Navy Pride,

By the way, I tell my six year old our troops are SUPERHEREOS. He loves that. He loves superheroes and he ask me many questions about this war. Regardless, of what I think, I tell him those men are fighting for US., are heroes..... He loves to play army men and respects this war. Even though I don't agree with this war, I don't want him thinking otherwise about our great nation.
 
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Hoot said:
So, NavyPride, my friend...you accept this man's opinion without researching views that might disagree with his perception?

Why? Because you don't want to read anything that goes against your beliefs?

Try this on for size....
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030922-090026-8355r.htm
Hoot....You do know that the Washington Times is reknowned as a lefty liberal bias newspaper :rofl

How do I know the Wash. Times is a lefty rag?

1. It wrote something in favor of Clinton.

2. It has the word TIMES in it's banner.

3. Anything that disproves a Navy Pride post is a lefty liberal media bias conspiracy, so there!
 
Hoot said:
Iraq is split into 3 factions, as described above. Each of these factions will be loyal to their sectarian leaders, and not to any future central government that is established. Do any of us believe that the Sunnui's will be loyal to a government controlled by a majority of Shiites? Do any of you believe the Kurds will be loyal to a central government?

All that needs to happen is for them to grow up and figure out that their best interests lay together, not apart.

If you think they'll never grow up, I suggest then that we do the next best thing and sterilize the region with nuclear fire so it's no longer a threat to us or a beacon of hope for our enemies, but a lesson they can learn from.
 
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alphieb said:
It would be an utter disaster.....(hellow common sense).....I Love my country, but don't want to OUR men killed. I can only hope when we wthdrawal and they will have a democracy, but Navy Pride, I just don't see it happening. There is WAY, there is too much anomosity over there.

As a Dem, I should promote the same elsewhere?

I can not tell the future so I don't know what is going to happen......You don't seem like a Bush hater........Did you listen to his speech at the Naval Academy the other day? If you did did you hear about the soldier that left the letter on his lap top to be read if he was to be killed in action.....Well he was killed and he basicly said he had no regrets because he was trying to help the people there have the same kind of life that we have here.....To me that says it all.........
 
Hoot said:
So, NavyPride, my friend...you accept this man's opinion without researching views that might disagree with his perception?

Why? Because you don't want to read anything that goes against your beliefs?

Try this on for size....
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030922-090026-8355r.htm

I just picked the first item when I googled......There are many more stories about the subject.....Google search and you will see......I have heard that guy speak on various news stations before ......He seemed creditable to me.......

The problem with you is you think Clinton can do no wrong........They did not call him "Slick Willie" for nothing my friend.........
 
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Hoot said:
Why don't you tell Bush?

The democratically elected leaders of Iraq have asked for a timetable for all U.S. troops to withdraw. Isn't that the new flip-flop reason why we are in Iraq? To establish a democracy? Well....the democracy has spoken.

Why let that bungling Bush decide when U.S. troops leave? Allow the democracy of Iraq to make this decision..in otherwords, put up or shutup about establishing democracy and allow it to work.

In fact I watched Nightline last night and the government does want us to leave but not now and they don't want a time table..............The only ones that want us to leave now are the Sunnis...Surprise surprise......
 
alphieb said:
Navy Pride,

By the way, I tell my six year old our troops are SUPERHEREOS. He loves that. He loves superheroes and he ask me many questions about this war. Regardless, of what I think, I tell him those men are fighting for US., are heroes..... He loves to play army men and respects this war. Even though I don't agree with this war, I don't want him thinking otherwise about our great nation.

You sound like you set a fine example for your son........It does not really matter at this point why we went to Iraq..........We are there and we need to do what ever it takes to finish the job there and then bring our troops home.......
 
I have to say I am very encouraged by the results of this poll........I think this forum leans to the left and it is gratifying to see that the majority think that by the dems actions that they are aiding the enemy..........
 
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Navy Pride said:
In fact I watched Nightline last night and the government does want us to leave but not now and they don't want a time table..............The only ones that want us to leave now are the Sunnis...Surprise surprise......

Aren't the sunni's the indigent populaton of Iraq? I guess we should treat them like we treated the indigent population of North America (native americans); Rape and Pillage them. Wow. Or maybe we should just make them go pick cotton for us? Let me guess... you probably have a rebel flag right beside the "support our troops" magnet on your bumper. :rofl
 
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Navy Pride said:
I have to say I am very encouraged by the results of this poll........I think this forum leans to the left and it is gratifying to see that the majority think that by the dems actions that they are aiding the enemy..........

The only person aiding the enemy is the Bush adminstration by

1. Making the war in Iraq a priority over the war on terror.

2. Knowingly misleading the will of the American people to facilitate and complete the industrial war that his father originally created by backstabbing his business partner.. Saddam Hussein.
 
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Conflict said:
Aren't the sunni's the indigent populaton of Iraq? I guess we should treat them like we treated the indigent population of North America (native americans); Rape and Pillage them. Wow. Or maybe we should just make them go pick cotton for us? Let me guess... you probably have a rebel flag right beside the "support our troops" magnet on your bumper. :rofl

Speak for yourself.... I haven't raped and pillaged anyone........:confused:
 
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alphieb said:
All the republicans have on Clinton is his sexual appetite. Sure he lied under oath, but Bush's lies have cost many life's and money. ALMOST ALL POLITICANS LIE, Did you not know that?

Bush claims God told him to invade Iraq (no the devil). I think he might be a bit schizophrenic. Didn't he get one or two DUIs in the past. He must have been drunk when he made the decision to invade Iraq. Even the non Sunni's are sick of us being there. Did you know their standard of living has gone down. Peace for Iraq HA......Iraq WAS peaceful, compared to what is going to occur when we withdrawal. Are we looking for victory? The only way that happens is if they surrender, I'm sure they will be doing that soon. How can you force a country to be a democracy? They will simply do what they want. .... Its all about oil anyway, Bush is jealous because his OIL business failed. That happened because he is retarded. He can't even run a business let alone a country...LOL.

You're simply misinformed.

Joe Lieberman, a few days ago, upon his return from Iraq.

"Here is an ironic finding I brought back from Iraq. While U.S. public opinion polls show serious declines in support for the war and increasing pessimism about how it will end, polls conducted by Iraqis for Iraqi universities show increasing optimism. Two-thirds say they are better off than they were under Saddam, and a resounding 82% are confident their lives in Iraq will be better a year from now than they are today."
 
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RightatNYU said:
You're simply misinformed.

Joe Lieberman, a few days ago, upon his return from Iraq.

"Here is an ironic finding I brought back from Iraq. While U.S. public opinion polls show serious declines in support for the war and increasing pessimism about how it will end, polls conducted by Iraqis for Iraqi universities show increasing optimism. Two-thirds say they are better off than they were under Saddam, and a resounding 82% are confident their lives in Iraq will be better a year from now than they are today."

82% of how many people? 100?, 1000? polls are misleading and inaccurate

P.S. Howcome Sen. Murtha, an accomplished war veteren, unlike Lieberman came back and told us we were doing horribly in Iraq?
 
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