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Are aggressive acts legitimate forms of protest and do you believe they are protected free speech?

Are aggressive acts (Property damage, starting fires, etc.) legitimate protest and protected speech?


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These posters are neoMarxists. (This forum has many)

Karl Marx wrote about aggressive acts and violence as being acceptable forms of protest between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie in his Communist Manifesto.

Karl Marx was talking about revolution, not protests.

Tell me again how America was formed? I love that story. ;)
 
What goes unremaked upon these days is the militarization of law enforcement and how that leads to more aggressive violence towards protesters.

When we were younger, there was some effort to portray the police as members of the community, someone you might relate to on a personal level. Someone who would de-escalate a situation before people let it get out of hand.

Now they are masked and militarized and it is up to the people to keep cops for escalating things.
The police have had to become more "militarized" in response to the organized violence of the radical Left. Well funded and in some cases taxpayer subsidised organizations like CHIRLA into a network monitoring ICE legal enforcement of immigration law in LA. But it doesn't stop with passive monitoring or nonviolent protests. Once notified of the "horrifying" prospect of the law being enforced violent Leftist groups sprang into action executing a well planned ambush of 6 Waymo vehicles and a blockade of the nearby freeway. These groups had been specifically provisioned with chunks of cinder block and other items to injure police. Not by coincidence the mob was equipped with commercial fireworks, Molotov cocktails and laser pointers.

Of course the police are supposed to deal with this organized violence using the strength of their ties to the community. Nonsense.
 
The police have had to become more "militarized" in response to the organized violence of the radical Left. Well funded and in some cases taxpayer subsidised organizations like CHIRLA into a network monitoring ICE legal enforcement of immigration law in LA. But it doesn't stop with passive monitoring or nonviolent protests. Once notified of the "horrifying" prospect of the law being enforced violent Leftist groups sprang into action executing a well planned ambush of 6 Waymo vehicles and a blockade of the nearby freeway. These groups had been specifically provisioned with chunks of cinder block and other items to injure police. Not by coincidence the mob was equipped with commercial fireworks, Molotov cocktails and laser pointers.

Of course the police are supposed to deal with this organized violence using the strength of their ties to the community. Nonsense.


As you point out, the state has no choice in the matter.

The state is being FORCED to militarize the police.

no worries though
Eventually the state will find the right level of brutality to quell the American Electorate.
 
Both sides moan and groan. Get it straight. The difference is that the left considers itself "smarter". That is condescending, and it’s a big reason why the right doesn't like them.
We see it here on a daily basis. Many of the most simple-minded posters insist they are intelligent simply because they are lock step leftists who never question the mainstream narrative.

Their relentless virtue signaling is just their way of trying to capture a sense of superiority over others due to the fact that they do not feel superior in any other possible way.
 
We see it here on a daily basis. Many of the most simple-minded posters insist they are intelligent simply because they are lock step leftists who never question the mainstream narrative.

Their relentless virtue signaling is just their way of trying to capture a sense of superiority over others due to the fact that they do not feel superior in any other possible way.

They often use facts. 🤮
 
These posters are neoMarxists. (This forum has many)

Karl Marx wrote about aggressive acts and violence as being acceptable forms of protest between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie in his Communist Manifesto.

I believe Marx pointed out there was an inherent class conflict that we have seemingly through history, such as with peasants and lords.
 
A new right-wing cliche has entered the lexicon.
Those of you who are justifying attacks against innocent people are supporting terrorism by very nature.
 
I've witnessed multiple posters in threads on this topic recently defending aggressive acts as a legitimate form of protest. What is everyone's position on this idea?

aggressive acts (Property damage, starting fires, etc.)​

are crimes in most cities that have city leaders with half a brain and not afraid of the BLM coming in to riot and destroy city and private property.
It takes courage to arrest and prosecute miscreants who believe violent rioting is protected by the First Amendment.
 

aggressive acts (Property damage, starting fires, etc.)​

are crimes in most cities that have city leaders with half a brain and not afraid of the BLM coming in to riot and destroy city and private property.
It takes courage to arrest and prosecute miscreants who believe violent rioting is protected by the First Amendment.

 
'Step outta line, the man come and take you away'.


That is honestly the best song to describe these times.

I like:

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind

What a field day for the heat (Ooh ooh ooh)
A thousand people in the street (Ooh ooh ooh)
Singing songs and they carrying signs (Ooh ooh ooh)
Mostly say, "Hooray for our side" (Ooh ooh ooh)
 
OK. If you wish to cite a five year old article to make your point, that's fine. With all of the major protests against ICE around the country, it is easy to state most protesters arrested are not leftist radicals.
How many Leftist radical protesters does it take for an entire riot to become criminal because cars are destroyed and buildings burned?
Dems leaders like Newsom and Hapless Bass are fighting a losing battle trying to convince TV news viewers that it is ICE which caused destructive and harmful riots.
 
OK. If you wish to cite a five year old article to make your point, that's fine. With all of the major protests against ICE around the country, it is easy to state most protesters arrested are not leftist radicals.
How many Leftist radical protesters does it take for an entire riot to become criminal because cars are destroyed and buildings burned?
Dems leaders like Newsom and Hapless Bass are fighting a losing battle trying to convince TV news viewers that it is ICE which caused destructive and harmful riots.

You brought up a 5 year old BLM story. I responded to it.

Your effort to characterize this as a riot because a few people set some cars on fire is dishonest.

 
Good government listens to people and their wishes and makes changes before things escalate to the point of violence.

Trump's single strongest issue during the campaign was immigration. Multiple Texas border counties with long histories of Democrat support flipped to Trump.

Should our President bow to California's defiance of Federal immigration law pandering to violent radicals demanding death to America?
Ineffective government and a government designed to keep the people captive to a system that benefits the few at the expense of the many often finds itself in the receiving end of violence from the people

🤷‍♀️
The violent Leftist thugs besieging LA are a tiny minority compared to the millions who endorsed President Trump with their votes.
That’s the course of human history.
 
Trump's single strongest issue during the campaign was immigration. Multiple Texas border counties with long histories of Democrat support flipped to Trump.

Should our President bow to California's defiance of Federal immigration law pandering to violent radicals demanding death to America?

The violent Leftist thugs besieging LA are a tiny minority compared to the millions who endorsed President Trump with their votes.

It's king of funny, in a way. I said then I would have no sympathy for them when it comes back on them.

People want ICE deporting immigrants, but please, not in my neighborhood.

 
As you point out, the state has no choice in the matter.

The state is being FORCED to militarize the police.

no worries though
Eventually the state will find the right level of brutality to quell the American Electorate.
The organized violent Leftist thuggery in LA and their Democrat codependents in no way represents the American electorate.
 
The organized violent Leftist thuggery in LA and their Democrat codependents in no way represents the American electorate.

Well, yeah, I saw, like, 6 of them.
 
I don't burn cars.

And why would I explain that to you? No where have I made any comment indicating that me "burning a car should in any way interfere with [your] right to protest."

Why are you making up fake things I never said and attributing it to me? Do you always lie in your posts like this?
The people there protesting peacefully are not the ones burning cars.

You are suggesting that we infringe on the rights of all who protest peacefully because propaganda showed you videos of burning cars.
 
The people there protesting peacefully are not the ones burning cars.

You are suggesting that we infringe on the rights of all who protest peacefully because propaganda showed you videos of burning cars.

The right-wing gets photos of a few people rioting as thousands march peacefully and it's all a riot and National Guard have to be called out and we're all terrorists now.
 
The violent Leftist thugs besieging LA are a tiny minority compared to the millions who endorsed President Trump with their votes
😂😂😂

Tell us that you swallow propaganda without telling us you swallow propaganda.
 
The people there protesting peacefully are not the ones burning cars.

Welcome to the entire point of the discussion. Glad you finally caught up!

You are suggesting that we infringe on the rights of all who protest peacefully because propaganda showed you videos of burning cars.

Blah blah blah, whine whine whine, lies lies lies, blah blah blah

I haven't suggested anything because I haven't posted my opinion at any point in the thread at this point. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Karl Marx was talking about revolution, not protests.

Tell me again how America was formed? I love that story. ;)

Trump supporters are being taught to believe the protestors aren't "real" Americans in preparation for protestors eventually being targeted by the military.

Remember, Defense Sec. Esper said Trump wanted to shoot the protestors. I do not believe Trump's views have changed.
 
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