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Are aggressive acts legitimate forms of protest and do you believe they are protected free speech?

Are aggressive acts (Property damage, starting fires, etc.) legitimate protest and protected speech?


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Tell us that you swallow propaganda without telling us you swallow propaganda.
Propaganda? Parroting the Democrat talking points that somehow the Left loving media is slanting coverage in favor of creating a phony crisis is propaganda on a grand scale. Are you going to maintain that you wouldn't be alarmed if a group of organized thugs executed an ambush luring 6 taxis to your street then set them on fire as a prelude to fighting with the police? Don't worry we can depend on the violent radical Leftists to show restraint. Right?

Condoning the violence and looting shows the true nature of so-called sanctuary policy. It's not just withholding cooperation with Federal immigration control, it's Democrats handing over control to violent radical anarchists claiming they are just people having fun watching cars burn.
 
It’s called ā€œcivil disobedienceā€ for a reason. People shouldn’t get hurt but if the protest isn’t drawing attention, it’s a failure.
 
That depends on what you're protesting. If you're advocating for a liberal cause then vandalism, arson, throwing rocks and terrorizing motorists is all protected PEACEFUL speech. If you're advocating somethingthat ISN'T a liberal cause then holding signs and wearing patriotic gear is domestic terrorism. Finally, if you're protesting abortion then sitting silently in prayer then you are among the worst of the worst and need to be removed from society permanently.

No idea what country this post is describing. Trump’s regime has pardoned violent terrorists and financially rewarded them with huge taxpayer funded settlements. Criminals who beat on cops, who have other violent cases pending, etc pardoned in one fell swoop to declare that violence committed on behalf of Trump’s regime will be rewarded. You last sentence is such silliness. The pro-life contingent in this country is literally the most protected protest ā€œvoteā€ in our history. We just recently had women’s rights removed just to placate this mentally ill sect of American life.
 
Hrmm, if you're talking about George Floyd related riots, this isn't true. The militarization of the police forces in the U.S. predates the Floyd-era by several decades and picked up speed after the second Iraq War.
Floyd-era? The manufactured outrage by the scammers of BLM didn't create an era. The riots of 2020 were a shameful episode of Democrat political violence.

Specifically what is your complaint about so-called police militarization? Define the term and show how it's toxic for the police to be effective controlling violent mobs.
 
Floyd-era? The manufactured outrage by the scammers of BLM didn't create an era. The riots of 2020 were a shameful episode of Democrat political violence.

Specifically what is your complaint about so-called police militarization? Define the term and show how it's toxic for the police to be effective controlling violent mobs.

 
No idea what country this post is describing. Trump’s regime has pardoned violent terrorists and financially rewarded them with huge taxpayer funded settlements. Criminals who beat on cops, who have other violent cases pending, etc pardoned in one fell swoop to declare that violence committed on behalf of Trump’s regime will be rewarded. You last sentence is such silliness. The pro-life contingent in this country is literally the most protected protest ā€œvoteā€ in our history. We just recently had women’s rights removed just to placate this mentally ill sect of American life.
Most of the folks that were pardoned got arrested again on state charges for violent crimes.
 
These posters are neoMarxists. (This forum has many)

Karl Marx wrote about aggressive acts and violence as being acceptable forms of protest between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie in his Communist Manifesto.
I doubt the protestors in LA have read it
 
The linked article claims to be based on an extensive review of court records but uses vague generalizations, very few, and extraordinarily subjective qualifiers, highly organized, to artificially distort their findings.

"Very few of those charged appear to be affiliated with highly organized extremist groups, and many are young suburban adults"

The article also offers up a statement from long time rioter defense attorney Ron Kuby who surprise, who supports the author's opinion.
 
I doubt the protestors in LA have read it
The people organizing and directing the rioters are intimately familiar with Marx.

Notice the repetition of techniques used in the summer of 2020. Do you believe the commercial fireworks spontaneously appeared in rioters hands. It's strictly coincidence thugs showed up with sledge hammers to break chunks of sidewalk cement off to pass out for assaulting the police
 
The people organizing and directing the rioters are intimately familiar with Marx.

Notice the repetition of techniques used in the summer of 2020. Do you believe the commercial fireworks spontaneously appeared in rioters hands. It's strictly coincidence thugs showed up with sledge hammers to break chunks of sidewalk cement off to pass out for assaulting the police

By repetition of techniques, you mean the one in which the government sends agents to ā€œdisperseā€ the crowd and create the violent exchanges that weren’t happening before they engaged?
 
The people organizing and directing the rioters are intimately familiar with Marx.

Notice the repetition of techniques used in the summer of 2020. Do you believe the commercial fireworks spontaneously appeared in rioters hands. It's strictly coincidence thugs showed up with sledge hammers to break chunks of sidewalk cement off to pass out for assaulting the police
Let me guess, George Soros holds workshops šŸ™„
 
By repetition of techniques, you mean the one in which the government sends agents to ā€œdisperseā€ the crowd and create the violent exchanges that weren’t happening before they engaged?
You have a vivid imagination.
 
The people organizing and directing the rioters are intimately familiar with Marx.

Notice the repetition of techniques used in the summer of 2020. Do you believe the commercial fireworks spontaneously appeared in rioters hands. It's strictly coincidence thugs showed up with sledge hammers to break chunks of sidewalk cement off to pass out for assaulting the police

You have a vivid imagination.
 
The linked article claims to be based on an extensive review of court records but uses vague generalizations, very few, and extraordinarily subjective qualifiers, highly organized, to artificially distort their findings.

"Very few of those charged appear to be affiliated with highly organized extremist groups, and many are young suburban adults"

The article also offers up a statement from long time rioter defense attorney Ron Kuby who surprise, who supports the author's opinion.

They have more evidence than you do.
 
One has to admit, when comparing the number of peaceful protesters to the number violent rioters, the neo-Marxists' efforts wpupd appear to be an utter failure.

Beyond providing fodder for right-wing media, their influence seems to be negligible.
 
Let me guess, George Soros holds workshops šŸ™„
Convicted stock swindler and economy wrecking currency trader George Soros doesn't have expertise in street guerrilla warfare tactics AFAIK. The lame attempt at deflection just shows the desperation to avoid looking at the organized groups promoting the riots.
 
Convicted stock swindler and economy wrecking currency trader George Soros doesn't have expertise in street guerrilla warfare tactics AFAIK. The lame attempt at deflection just shows the desperation to avoid looking at the organized groups promoting the riots.

Who would have thought paranoid conspiracy theories are so complicated.
 
You gotta admit, LA was peaceful before Trump came along.
As long as open defiance of immigration law was ignored by the Federal government it was "peaceful". Brilliant.

It was the Democrat endorsed violent mob attacking ICE agents enforcing the law that created the crisis.
 
Who would have thought paranoid conspiracy theories are so complicated.
"paranoid conspiracy theories"
No, not really.

As tensions rise about who is behind the violent anti-ICE riots, a California-based company that specializes in providing on-demand crowds for protests says there are indicators to spot the difference between hired demonstrators and normal crowds.​
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"We receive inquiries regarding practically every major social cause imaginable, and the anti-ICE demonstrations are no exception," Adam Swart, the CEO and founder of Crowds on Demand, told Fox News Digital. "The fact that we receive requests does not mean we take them, in many cases because the budget does not match the ambition."​
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Swart added that they have received "numerous high budget requests" regarding the anti-ICE demonstrations, but declined those offers due to the fact "that they do not want to get close to any form of illegal activity, including violence, vandalism or blocking off roads without a permit."​

Their web site:
 
Convicted stock swindler and economy wrecking currency trader George Soros doesn't have expertise in street guerrilla warfare tactics AFAIK. The lame attempt at deflection just shows the desperation to avoid looking at the organized groups promoting the riots.
See post #220
 
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