Are abortionists just lazy and irresponsible women?

[TimmyBoy]

Im not on any side.... im on my own side.....

To keep you informed of how wrong you are.
And, my stoned ass cousin says being high on weed and being drunk on booze are two completely different driving impairments.

Being high on weed isn't really an impairment at all, accoring to him... like I said, I wouldn't know, and my polygraph with the police department backs that up.

Polygraphs are not accurate and their results are generally inadmissable in a court of law.

 

[Caine]

Well look, I think neither people who are drunk OR stoned should be operating any type of machinery.

Me neither.
Also, im thinking that alot of people assume I am for legalization of drugs, just because of my comments trying to refute Navy Pride's ignorance.

Im not, drugs **** people's lives up, and I disagree that legalization would lower the useage of such a drug. My older sister and two older cousins are worthless steaming piles of cow **** now because of thier use of drugs.

 

[Caine]

Polygraphs are not accurate and their results are generally inadmissable in a court of law.

But they are used by police deparments as a way to screen potential employees of drug use.

I passed with ease.
Are you trying to say I lied and beat a polygraph to get empoyed?

I knew you conservatives were desperate for a fight, but ****ing A.

 

[Navy Pride]

Well look, I think neither people who are drunk OR stoned should be operating any type of machinery.

Agreed but unfortunatley that is not the case?

 

[Caine]

Agreed but unfortunatley that is not the case?

Never will be, as long as there are stupid people in the world, and there are laws against certain actions, there will be people to do stupid **** and hurt/harm/kill others and themselves or just **** thier own lives up.

This type of thing has been going on since.. well... since the creation of man.

 

[Navy Pride]

Me neither.
Also, im thinking that alot of people assume I am for legalization of drugs, just because of my comments trying to refute Navy Pride's ignorance.

Im not, drugs **** people's lives up, and I disagree that legalization would lower the useage of such a drug. My older sister and two older cousins are worthless steaming piles of cow **** now because of thier use of drugs.

ROTFLMAO.........I have not seen a bigger flip flopper in you since Kerry.......

 

[Caine]

ROTFLMAO.........I have not seen a bigger flip flopper in you since Kerry.......

Explain this???????

Just because I defend someone else's opinion that Drunk driving is worse than Driving while high on Pot, does not mean that I agree with the legalization of drugs.

Maybe you should stop generalizing and take note of each point as what it is.
Its always black and white with you, ya know?

 

[TimmyBoy]

But they are used by police deparments as a way to screen potential employees of drug use.

I passed with ease.
Are you trying to say I lied and beat a polygraph to get empoyed?

I knew you conservatives were desperate for a fight, but ****ing A.

Did I say you lied to beat a polygraph? I never said that. Officer Caine, I would like to file a formal complaint against you with your sergent, does your sergent take statements? I am also going to request that my complaint gets forwarded to your Internal Affairs unit so that they may open an investigation into your conduct.

I'm just joking around Caine. Some good advice for you while you are a cop. Don't ever "voluntarily" take a polygraph. If you refuse, they might threaten your job, but don't take it anyway. The polygraph is a very convient political tool for police departments. They are not accurate, but they are used as an interrogation tool to elicit damaging admissions from suspects. That is what they were trying to do to you, is trying to get you to make damaging admissions. Generally, they won't try to interrogate you until they see a deceptive reading during the employment process. But just because you get a deceptive reading doesn't mean you are being deceptive. A good polygraph interrogator (that is what you agreed to when you accepted taking a polygraph exam, was to subject yourself to an interrogation) would lie to you, tell you your polygraph reading was deceptive when it really was not and begin interrogating you to try to get damaging admissions from you. That's their job, get damaging admissions, which are admissable court (even though the polygraph results themselves are inadmissable). It's all a mind game. A poker game. Me personally, I am against the use of the polygraph to some degree.

 

[Caine]

Did I say you lied to beat a polygraph? I never said that. Officer Caine, I would like to file a formal complaint against you with your sergent, does your sergent take statements? I am also going to request that my complaint gets forwarded to your Internal Affairs unit so that they may open an investigation into your conduct.

I'm just joking around Caine. Some good advice for you while you are a cop. Don't ever "voluntarily" take a polygraph. If you refuse, they might threaten your job, but don't take it anyway. The polygraph is a very convient political tool for police departments. They are not accurate, but they are used as an interrogation tool to elicit damaging admissions from suspects. That is what they were trying to do to you, is trying to get you to make damaging admissions. Generally, they won't try to interrogate you until they see a deceptive reading. But just because you get a deceptive reading doesn't mean you are being deceptive. A good polygraph interrogator (that is what you agreed to when you accepted taking a polygraph exam, was to subject yourself to an interrogation) would lie to you, tell you your polygraph reading was deceptive when it really was not and begin interrogating you to try to get damaging admissions from you. That's their job, get damaging admissions, which are admissable court (even though the polygraph results themselves are inadmissable). It's all a mind game. A poker game. Me personally, I am against the use of the polygraph to some degree.

Yeah, I understood that much when he started asking me questions like...

"Have you ever cheated on a test?"........."Yes"......
"Are you trying to cheat on this test?"..........."No".....

That **** was nerve-racking....

 

[TimmyBoy]

Yeah, I understood that much when he started asking me questions like...

"Have you ever cheated on a test?"........."Yes"......
"Are you trying to cheat on this test?"..........."No".....

That **** was nerve-racking....

Those were control questions. Generally, what the polygraph interrogator will do is manipulate you into lying on certain questions that he is not trying to find out the truth on. He will assume you are lying on those questions (even though you may not). He will generally explain how the police department takes lying very seriously, how it is very serious offense. Then he will turn around and manipulate you into lying on questions that he is not trying to find out the truth on. He will then ask questions that he is trying to find out the truth on, compare the physiological responses to the questions that he assumes you are lying on and if the physlogical responses that he is trying to find out if you are lying on or not is higher than the one he assumes you are lying on, you will be deemed "deceptive" and be subjected to an unpleasant interrogation.

Another piece of advice I have for you is this. If you get in the car with a cop and he gives you a speech, "What goes on in the car stays in the car." Tell him BS, what goes on in the car does not stay in the car. If it does, and the truth later comes out that you were lying to cover for another cop, you will go down on the same criminal charges as him. What goes on in the car doesn't stay in the car. Understand, that if you refuse to surrender your integrity, you could become the target of other cops or be considered "a rat." Just do the right thing, protect the innocent, don't trust the system you serve and be wary of other cops who might be crooked. Never surrender your integrity and be prepared to constantly have your life and character on the line and tested to the limit.

 

[TimmyBoy]

You haven't had your nerves racked yet. But you will, you will learn .

 

[TimmyBoy]

You tell one lie, when you are a cop, and you are finished. Every person you put behind bars who was a real threat to society, they get to go free now, because your testimony now has doubt that put them behind bars. The whole world is on your shoulders, will you give your life Caine for your integrity? Will you surrender your integrity to save your own life? Thousands of other people depend on the question, "Does Caine have integrity?" Do you Caine? We shall see.

 

[steen]

History will judge us harshly. Abortion is wrong and it is murder.

It is neither.

Slavery was protected by law

And now you seek to impose slavery on women.:doh

 

[steen]

But for the grace of God and your mother not having a bad hair day you could have been one of those 3,500 murdered babies........

More claptrap prolife revisionist linguistics. That aside, your worry about 1 mill abortions yearly in the US clearly seem to overshaddow the death of 40 mill kids yearly from very preventable causes all over the world.

Could it be that they are not white, and that you therefore don't give a damn?

 

[Caine]

Those were control questions. Generally, what the polygraph interrogator will do is manipulate you into lying on certain questions that he is not trying to find out the truth on. He will assume you are lying on those questions (even though you may not). He will generally explain how the police department takes lying very seriously, how it is very serious offense. Then he will turn around and manipulate you into lying on questions that he is not trying to find out the truth on. He will then ask questions that he is trying to find out the truth on, compare the physiological responses to the questions that he assumes you are lying on and if the physlogical responses that he is trying to find out if you are lying on or not is higher than the one he assumes you are lying on, you will be deemed "deceptive" and be subjected to an unpleasant interrogation.

Another piece of advice I have for you is this. If you get in the car with a cop and he gives you a speech, "What goes on in the car stays in the car." Tell him BS, what goes on in the car does not stay in the car. If it does, and the truth later comes out that you were lying to cover for another cop, you will go down on the same criminal charges as him. What goes on in the car doesn't stay in the car. Understand, that if you refuse to surrender your integrity, you could become the target of other cops or be considered "a rat." Just do the right thing, protect the innocent, don't trust the system you serve and be wary of other cops who might be crooked. Never surrender your integrity and be prepared to constantly have your life and character on the line and tested to the limit.

Absolutely!

 

[steen]

There are long waiting lines to adopt babies in this country........I have friends that waited 3 years and finally adopted and infant from Korea...........Get a clue..........

Ah, yes. Ittibitty healthy babies. But the rest of them, the 100,000 available for adoption right now that nobody want...?

Yes, the prolife hypocricy shows itself.

 

[TimmyBoy]

It is neither.
And now you seek to impose slavery on women.:doh

No, I just don't seek to impose murder on the voiceless victims of the world.

 

[Navy Pride]

More claptrap prolife revisionist linguistics. That aside, your worry about 1 mill abortions yearly in the US clearly seem to overshaddow the death of 40 mill kids yearly from very preventable causes all over the world.

Could it be that they are not white, and that you therefore don't give a
damn?

This is about murder in the womb....If you want to talk about kids dying all over the world start another thread..........

 

[steen]

Sick, isn't it?

As an example, there was a black kid, the son of Jamaican immigrants, who grew up in the worst ghetto in the country, the infamous South Bronx. He worked his way through the lousy New York City Public School system and became involved in the ROTC program at the City College of New York.

After serving his obligatory term of active duty in the army, he stayed in and rose to the rank of four star general, was then confirmed Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and after retiring from military service, was nominated and confirmed Secretary of State of the United States.

That's Colin Powell.

As an example, there was a kid growing up in Europe under serious poverty with a very abusive dad. He showed budding artistic talent which incensed the dad even more, and the abuse got so bad that the boy eventually left and volunteered to join the Army as WWI was raging, knowing that the risk of dying on the frontlines was staggering. Against all odds, he survived WWI as an ordinance, a messenger, the group whose average survival time of the frontlines were about 14 days. He returned to his impoverished country after the war and pushed for political reforms that eventually got millions employed.

Oh, and by the way, That's Adolph Hitler.

 

[Navy Pride]

Ah, yes. Ittibitty healthy babies. But the rest of them, the 100,000 available for adoption right now that nobody want...?

Yes, the prolife hypocricy shows itself.

Again now try and concentrate like a laser beam if you can.......This is not about children already born as sad as that is..........This is about murder in the womb of innocent, defenseless babies that want to the same right to life that you had............I bet if they could speak they would tell you......Let me born and put in some orphanage..that is better the killing me.......where there is life there is hope.........

 

[Caine]

Again now try and concentrate like a laser beam if you can.......This is not about children already born as sad as that is..........This is about murder in the womb of innocent, defenseless babies that want to the same right to life that you had............I bet if they could speak they would tell you......Let me born and put in some orphanage..that is better the killing me.......where there is life there is hope.........

You can say that because your not an orphan.

 

[scottyz]

Again now try and concentrate like a laser beam if you can.......This is not about children already born as sad as that is..........This is about murder in the womb of innocent, defenseless babies that want to the same right to life that you had............I bet if they could speak they would tell you......Let me born and put in some orphanage..that is better the killing me.......where there is life there is hope.........

How many orphans do you adopt a year?

 

[steen]

What makes it so difficult to see it the way you suggest (at least for me...) is the respect I have for the dignity of mankind.

Well, you have respect for mankind and fetuskind, but obviously not for womankind, whom you want to relegate the role of brood-slaves.

 

[steen]

No,

Yes, you do, stop lying. You seek to remove the woman's right to control her own body, a right everybody else have. You want to meak her a second-class citizen, to let others have the right to control her body. That very much is slavery, so please stop lying about your goal.

I just don't seek to impose murder on the voiceless victims of the world.

"voiceless victims"? Ah like cows, hogs and wheat?

Yes, the prolife deceptive, revisionist linguistic hyperbole and what "murder" is, that sure shows how morally bancrups your cause is. When the only way you can make your argument is through misrepresentations and lies, they you truly are lame.

 

[Navy Pride]

You can say that because your not an orphan.

How do you know I wasn't an orphan?

Like I said its a different topic..............answer the question........If you had the choice of being born and living in and orphanage or being murdered in the womb which would you choose?