Are abortionists just lazy and irresponsible women?

[Navy Pride]

How many orphans do you adopt a year?

None, what does that have to do with murder in the womb?

 

[Navy Pride]

No, I just don't seek to impose murder on the voiceless victims of the world.

I truly believe liberals tell themselves over and over again it is not a life but a mass of cells.........Otherwise they would not be able to sleep at night.......

 

[steen]

This is about murder in the womb....

There is no such thing. Murder is the illegal killing of a person. The law is very clear that the unborn are not persons, and abortion is legal. So what you are admitting is talking babbling nonsense about what doesn't even exist. How lame.

If you want to talk about kids dying all over the world start another thread..........

Quite, as you sure don't give a damn. After all, you couldn't care less about children dying all over the world, as they are already born and therefore don't matter anymore.

Yes, the prolife position is all to clear.

 

[TimmyBoy]

There is no such thing. Murder is the illegal killing of a person. The law is very clear that the unborn are not persons, and abortion is legal. So what you are admitting is talking babbling nonsense about what doesn't even exist. How lame.
Quite, as you sure don't give a damn. After all, you couldn't care less about children dying all over the world, as they are already born and therefore don't matter anymore.

Yes, the prolife position is all to clear.

Alot of bad things are legal. Slavery was legal at one time, just as abortion is legal today. "Honor Killings" might be legal in some Islamic States (I don't know this for sure, would have to check on it, but I do know that "honor killings" are practiced), doesn't make it right though does it?

 

[steen]

Prolife nonsense.

Again now try and concentrate like a laser beam if you can.......This is not about children already born as sad as that is..........

Obviously, for you it isn't, as their life is not as important as theife of an embryo. Yes, you already made that abundantly clear, the fetocentricity of the prolife movement, completely ignoring anyone already born. Your extremism has been documented many times.

This is about murder in the womb

There is no suc h thing. You are spewing silly, deceptive revisionist linguistic hyperbole, you are making false claims.

of innocent, defenseless babies

What nonsense, as "baby" is a developmental stage beginning AFTER birth.

that want to the same right to life that you had............

That's fine, as abortion was legal where I grew up.

I bet if they could speak they would tell you......

But as their brain works less than that of a fly, they can't. Embryos don't have functioning brains. Thus they can't think, feel or communicate, or whatever antropomorphizing claptrap lies the prolifers want to spew.

 

[Navy Pride]

There is no such thing. Murder is the illegal killing of a person. The law is very clear that the unborn are not persons, and abortion is legal. So what you are admitting is talking babbling nonsense about what doesn't even exist. How lame.
Quite, as you sure don't give a damn. After all, you couldn't care less about children dying all over the world, as they are already born and therefore don't matter anymore.

Yes, the prolife position is all to clear.

You call it what you want and I will do the same and as usual you ducked my question

If you had the choice of being born and living in and orphanage or being murdered in the womb, which would you choose?

 

[steen]

None, what does that have to do with murder in the womb?

There is no such thing as what you are talking about. Hence, nothing ever will have anything to do with it.

 

[steen]

I truly believe liberals tell themselves over and over again it is not a life but a mass of cells.........Otherwise they would not be able to sleep at night.......

It is amazing how much stupid ad hominem claptrap you see a need to post. All silly emotion and no facts.

It would be refreshing if you for once abstained from your silly and erroneous speculation and dealt with reality.

 

[Navy Pride]

Re: Prolife nonsense.

Obviously, for you it isn't, as their life is not as important as theife of an embryo. Yes, you already made that abundantly clear, the fetocentricity of the prolife movement, completely ignoring anyone already born. Your extremism has been documented many times.
There is no suc h thing. You are spewing silly, deceptive revisionist linguistic hyperbole, you are making false claims.
What nonsense, as "baby" is a developmental stage beginning AFTER birth.
That's fine, as abortion was legal where I grew up.
But as their brain works less than that of a fly, they can't. Embryos don't have functioning brains. Thus they can't think, feel or communicate, or whatever antropomorphizing claptrap lies the prolifers want to spew.

Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep better at night........On judgment day you will meet you maker and have to answer for your murderous thoughts....I hope I am there to see it..........

 

[steen]

Alot of bad things are legal.

But murder isn't. And the claim specifically was about "murder in the womb."

I am pleased that you acknowledge such a claim to be an outright lie, and thus show yourself different from the type of prolifer who will spew any lie to make their argument.

 

[steen]

Re: Prolife nonsense.

Keep telling yourself that so you can sleep better at night........

I sleep just fine. Your stupid lies about how prochoice has to not acknowledge reality in order to sleep well is just nonsense. I know exactly what abortions are, I support the woman's right to have one if she so feels inclined, and I sleep well at night. So your stupid and silly nonsense merely shows how stupid and silly you are. If you don't want to be seen in that light, then stop posting like that.

On judgment day you will meet you maker and have to answer for your murderous thoughts....I hope I am there to see it..........

Pascal's wager is an incredibly lame argument.

But then, if you want to talk about murder, then it is obvious that the true murderers are prolifers, who have murdered physicians in front of their children at home, shooting them in the back.

 

[Navy Pride]

But murder isn't. And the claim specifically was about "murder in the womb."

I am pleased that you acknowledge such a claim to be an outright lie, and thus show yourself different from the type of prolifer who will spew any lie to make their argument.

We should be able to rectify that that God willing, when we get a good conservative minded supreme court that interprets the law and does not make it Roe V Wade will be thrown out as unconctitutional and doctors who peform unneeded abaortions will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.........

 

[steen]

Prolife liars

It is duly noted that you ignored the direct evidence of outright lies in your post. Your dishonesty is not surprising, as that is what I expect from prolifers.

 

[Navy Pride]

But then, if you want to talk about murder, then it is obvious that the true murderers are prolifers, who have murdered physicians in front of their children at home, shooting them in the back.

And unlike you because you are a hypocrite and value the life of and abortion doctor and not and innocent baby in the womb I value both and if someone murders and abortion doctor he or she should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....

I hate abortion doctors that perform not needed abortions but I don't wish them dead like you do babies in the womb.........

 

[steen]

And unlike you because you are a hypocrite

Really? I don't support a cause that leads people to murder physicians.

and value the life of and abortion doctor and not and innocent baby in the womb

Since there is no baby, it is hard to value it. You don't often value what does not exist.

I value both

But not the woman.

and if someone murders and abortion doctor he or she should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.....

I am glad we agree on that, at least.

I hate abortion doctors that perform not needed abortions

But then, most abortions are needed, aren't they! After all, otherwise the woamn wouldn't seek one.

but I don't wish them dead like you do babies in the womb.........

I don't, so please stop lying about me.

 

[Navy Pride]

Really? I don't support a cause that leads people to murder physicians.
Since there is no baby, it is hard to value it. You don't often value what does not exist.
But not the woman.
I am glad we agree on that, at least.
But then, most abortions are needed, aren't they! After all, otherwise the woamn wouldn't seek one.
I don't, so please stop lying about me.

No only about 5% of abortions are when the mothers life is endangered or for rape and incest.......The rest are usually for bad hair days, convenience, or birth control..........

whether its a life or not we will find out when we meet our maker on judgment day.....I can tell you I like my chances on what is right a hell of a lot better then I like yours..........If I am wrong, no harm, no foul........If your wrong you burn in Hell..........

 

[steen]

No only about 5% of abortions are when the mothers life is endangered or for rape and incest.......

Ah, so unless she looks like she is going to die rather than be maimed for life, she shopuldn't be allowed an abortion. Yes, the compassion of prolifers is becoming all to obvious as rather underwhelming.

If I am wrong, no harm, no foul........If your wrong you burn in Hell..........

And that still is Pascal's wager, an incredibly stupid argument.

 

[Navy Pride]

Ah, so unless she looks like she is going to die rather than be maimed for life, she shopuldn't be allowed an abortion. Yes, the compassion of prolifers is becoming all to obvious as rather underwhelming.
And that still is Pascal's wager, an incredibly stupid argument.

Only when the mother's life is endangered or possibly when incest or rape are involved......

what part of that do you not understand?

 

[Fantasea]

That count that one against the tens of thousands who end up being nothing more than a burden on the system.

Those who are a burden on the system are burdens because that is precisely what the socialist-lib-dems want them to be.

 

[Caine]

Those who are a burden on the system are burdens because that is precisely what the socialist-lib-dems want them to be.

So now we are encouraging people to be lazy bums and not do anything....
Get a ****ing life bitch, grow up. Your arguments are retarded at best.

 

[sissy-boy]

But for the grace of God and your mother not having a bad hair day you could have been one of those 3,500 murdered babies........

I am going to continue to do every thing in my power to fight for the banning of all abortions with the exception of when the mother's life is endangered or possibly in the case of rape and incest..............

I could care less if I were one of 'those babies'. I would have NEVER known it now would I?? That's a very weak argument.

 

[sissy-boy]

Where can I get a crystal ball like the one which enables you to devine what is going on in the mind of another?

It's not a crystal ball, it's called RATIONAL DEDUCTION! I've learned about Spirituality through MANY different studies -- not just one like in the case of most religious people. I'm a Gnostic (to Know).

 

[sissy-boy]

Sick, isn't it?

As an example, there was a black kid, the son of Jamaican immigrants, who grew up in the worst ghetto in the country, the infamous South Bronx. He worked his way through the lousy New York City Public School system and became involved in the ROTC program at the City College of New York.

After serving his obligatory term of active duty in the army, he stayed in and rose to the rank of four star general, was then confirmed Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and after retiring from military service, was nominated and confirmed Secretary of State of the United States.

That's Colin Powell.

Pure chance and a LOT of luck. This kind of thing hardly happens to anyone -- but look at what finally became of him. He just turned into another neo-con fascist white person.

 

[sissy-boy]

And you call yourself sissy boy you say my brain is fried....:lol:

Oh, and in case you did not notice alcohol as bad as it is, is legal.......We don't need drugs legalized so stoned out nuts like you are on the highway killing innocent people....

Just because alchohol is LEGAL doesn't make it any less of a dangerous drug. IT IS a drug and it's a very dangerous drug. At LEAST as dangerous as heroin. I've been addicted to both alcohol AND heroin. And heroin doesn't have NEARLY the effects on the central nervous system as alchohol -- and alcholism is WAY more rampant than any other drug -- yet it's legal. Marijuana, which has the LOWEST amount of risks is still ILLEGAL? WHY? Because the feds make too much money keeping it illegal.

 

[sissy-boy]

Who says that you and the other stoned drivers?:roll:

Its bad enough I have to dodge drunk drivers out there I don't want to add stoned drivers with their brains fried out there to........

Why did I know that you would be on the side of the people who's brains are fried?

There's ALREADY at least as many stoned drivers as drunk -- which is why you don't seem to notice them since you don't seem to acknowledge that they exist. But in case you haven't been paying attention (which is what I've noticed you doing constantly), driving drunk IS ILLEGAL! So is driving stoned, but they rarely are caught because it's easier to drive on weed than alcohol. What you should REALLY be watching out for is all your friends on alcohol and pain meds mixed.