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Apes descended from Humans – NOT the other way around.

Gargantuan said:
Ptif, quick question - how old do you think the world is?
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Here let me field this one for Ptif.

/ptif mode on

Nice spin, but there is no proof that man came from an ape, it is all scientists rubber stamping other scientists because they are buddies, just like with GW. No proof, just scientists agreeing with each other making us use ethanol and wind turbines.

/ptif mode off
 
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Psssst! ptif! Science deals in facts and observations.

Not in opinions.

It's not like a pundit whose work is approved by other pundits.

Say, ptif, what keeps the moon in the sky? (still testing my hypothesis.)
 
ptif219 said:
They also might approve it just because they like the guy
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Let me have a go at explaining.

My understanding of this is that:

A scientist or group of scientists perform experiments to test a theory. The data gathered from such experiments is used to expand on the theory, or potentially present a new one.

Peer review is when they present their data and theories to the scientific community so that other scientists can run different experiments aimed at disproving their theory and data.

The goal of peer review, if done properly, is NOT to agree, but to disagree.

At least, such is my understanding.

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HOWEVER.

This in no way prevents scientists, who are also people, from being motivated/controlled by political or monetary forces to incorrectly go about this process.

My position is that, if a scientist does not follow the scientific process, but rather submits to political pressure, they are not at that time a scientist.

In short, ptif219, I never blame scientists, I blame individuals, and in my view, the vast majority of the world’s problems are caused by individuals whose actions are politically motivated.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Psssst! ptif! Science deals in facts and observations.

Not in opinions.

It's not like a pundit whose work is approved by other pundits.

Say, ptif, what keeps the moon in the sky? (still testing my hypothesis.)
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Thats funny when there is lies and deceptions and data manipulation in the so called Global Warming science
 
ptif219 said:
You won't even admit it is scientists agreeing with other scientists

IPCC: Peer-Review? What Peer-Review?
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When.

Will.

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About.
 
The Mark said:
Let me have a go at explaining.

My understanding of this is that:

A scientist or group of scientists perform experiments to test a theory. The data gathered from such experiments is used to expand on the theory, or potentially present a new one.

Peer review is when they present their data and theories to the scientific community so that other scientists can run different experiments aimed at disproving their theory and data.

The goal of peer review, if done properly, is NOT to agree, but to disagree.

At least, such is my understanding.

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HOWEVER.

This in no way prevents scientists, who are also people, from being motivated/controlled by political or monetary forces to incorrectly go about this process.

My position is that, if a scientist does not follow the scientific process, but rather submits to political pressure, they are not at that time a scientist.

In short, ptif219, I never blame scientists, I blame individuals, and in my view, the vast majority of the world’s problems are caused by individuals whose actions are politically motivated.
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If that were the case they would never agree yet peer review is scientists agreeing
 
this thread is an epic fail, and it went on about 687 posts. why??
 
You believe that men/women evolved from monkeys/apes ??

Questions for resident atheists / evolutionists

1. What did monkeys/apes evolve from ??
2. If this evolutionary process is just that .. an evolutionary process ..
then who and where is the species between monkeys/apes to man ??

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we have man today and we have monkeys/apes today ..
why would we not have a vibrant species (somewhere) at the half way point



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dadman said:
You believe that men/women evolved from monkeys/apes ??

Questions for resident atheists / evolutionists

1. What did monkeys/apes evolve from ??
2. If this evolutionary process is just that .. an evolutionary process ..
then who and where is the species between monkeys/apes to man ??

whereswaldo3.jpg


we have man today and we have monkeys/apes today ..
why would we not have a vibrant species (somewhere) at the half way point



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In the unlikely event that you are actually exploring the topic of human evolution with an open mind, you should start by looking up astralopithecus.

If you're just wanting to try to refute a century and a half of scientific research by dismissing the scientists as "evolutionists" and equating evolution to atheism, then don't bother.
 
dadman said:
we have man today and we have monkeys/apes today ..
why would we not have a vibrant species (somewhere) at the half way point
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Because those vibrant species evolved into humans and apes...

Exactly what do you think all of those fossils of our ancestors really are?
 
roughdraft274 said:
Because those vibrant species evolved into humans and apes...

Exactly what do you think all of those fossils of our ancestors really are?
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Obviously, Satan left them there to deceive us, right after he tempted Eve to eat the apple.
 
ptif219 said:
If that were the case they would never agree yet peer review is scientists agreeing
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You misunderstand my point.

I'm saying that the goal in any real peer review (as defined by me) is to disagree with a given theory/data. But to disagree, they must show evidence supporting their disagreement, or at the least lack of evidence supporting the theory presented (I would think).
Perhaps I should have added that they are trying to disprove, with evidence, the theories and data presented to them. Not simply disagree.

Again, if done correctly.

The idea behind peer review (as I understand it) is to prevent false and inaccurate theories from being passed as valid.

In fact, I can use your next post as evidence to support my argument.

ptif219 said:
YouTube - ‪How the IPCC is not peer reviewed, but political.‬‏
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In this video, not to mention the other related videos (judging by their titles) the scientists being recorded are arguing that the IPCC is NOT a peer review, but rather a political review.

If you believe the video, then you agree with my argument, since they are basically saying that the IPCC does not fit their standard for peer review.

If they are correct in their statements, then I completely agree with them - the IPCC is not a peer review, but a political review.
 
ptif219 said:
Many have a problem with so called IPCC peer review
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Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the "IPCC peer review" you speak of is not the same thing as actual peer review? The article you keep citing is not an assault on peer review, it is an assault on IPCC's lack of peer review.
 
Say, ptif, can you explain how a prism works? Could you explain what makes a rainbow? Hint: The two are related.

(just testing my hypothesis. I'm doing my best to prove it false. )
 
dadman said:
You believe that men/women evolved from monkeys/apes ??
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Humans are apes in the same way that humans are primates, mammals, vertebrates, metazoans, and eukaryotes. Humans and other modern day apes share a common ancestor which we would, if we saw it today, classify as an ape.

dadman said:
Questions for resident atheists / evolutionists
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There are also devout Christians who accept evolution.

dadman said:
1. What did monkeys/apes evolve from ??
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Start here click on the link labeled "containing group" to work backwards. Note the site hasn't been updated in several years.
 
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