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The power to execute the law is given to the president in the constitution, not to the Congress. Prosecutorial discretion is part of that power. That has been thoroughly established in the courts for many decades.
I think you just don't get the most basic elements of what is going on. ICE has finite resources. It has to choose where to spend them. Obviously it doesn't have enough resources to catch and deport every single undocumented immigrant, right? So it needs to prioritize. Rather than focusing resources on trying to catch folks who didn't even come here of their own volition and who aren't causing any trouble, ICE wants to focus on the highest priority targets. People that are committing other crimes are the top of the list, but people who came here of their own volition are also obviously higher priority than people who didn't, right?
The Executive branch is to implement and enforce the laws passed. When a President decides to NOT enforce a valid law passed by Congress, the President is in violation of his oath of office, and possibly the Constitution. Basically, he's not doing his job.
It is not so much an outrage of what he did, but in the manner in which he did it that is what is going to get him in hot water.
The power to execute the law is given to the president in the constitution, not to the Congress. Prosecutorial discretion is part of that power. That has been thoroughly established in the courts for many decades.
It's been established that the executive branch can ignore the congress whenever it so well chooses?
No, of course not. It has been established that the executive branch has prosecutorial discretion.
Explain to me how you think it works. A law enforcement agency is given a budget of say $40 billion and it would cost $10 trillion to catch everybody violating a law it is charged with enforcing. Are you saying they should just blow the $40 billion on the first cases that happen to cross its path no matter how much it costs and then let everybody else go? Of course not. It needs to use its discretion to try to accomplish the most good with its finite resources. Right?
Complete red herring. Deporting an illegal who happens to have graduated is no different, neither financially nor legally, than one who just swam across the rio grande.
Your lord and savior Reagan did it. Conservatives really are hypocrites.
It is not so much an outrage of what he did, but in the manner in which he did it that is what is going to get him in hot water.
j-mac
The Executive branch is to implement and enforce the laws passed. When a President decides to NOT enforce a valid law passed by Congress, the President is in violation of his oath of office, and possibly the Constitution. Basically, he's not doing his job.
I wonder why he did? Because rat bastard Democrats convinced him that if he did it, it would never be needed again. They told him the bill would include funding for the border, to prevent more from coming. And as usual, conservatives are stupid enough to believe the stupid excuses to compromise.
You are right though. Conservatives should stop compromising.
Thing is, soon as the election is over, these kids get thrown to the wolves if Obama wins. He's not going to fight the matter with the congress in the court, so he'll drop them like a hot potato. One of the most cynical and calculated election moves I seen. I'm so disgusted with our POTUS right now.
Thing is, soon as the election is over, these kids get thrown to the wolves if Obama wins. He's not going to fight the matter with the congress in the court, so he'll drop them like a hot potato. One of the most cynical and calculated election moves I seen. I'm so disgusted with our POTUS right now.
Me too, and yeah, they will be.
Good God man, have you no shame at all? What kind of debate do you really expect by opening up your posting with such a vile diatribe?
j-mac said:should Obama continue on the destroy America tour
j-mac said:This doofus (Obama) has subverted the Constitution at every turn
j-mac said:This current administration is not only the most arrogant in history, but IMHO, the most dangerous to our Constitution, and way of life.
The power to execute the law is given to the president in the constitution, not to the Congress. Prosecutorial discretion is part of that power. That has been thoroughly established in the courts for many decades.
I think you just don't get the most basic elements of what is going on. ICE has finite resources. It has to choose where to spend them. Obviously it doesn't have enough resources to catch and deport every single undocumented immigrant, right? So it needs to prioritize. Rather than focusing resources on trying to catch folks who didn't even come here of their own volition and who aren't causing any trouble, ICE wants to focus on the highest priority targets. People that are committing other crimes are the top of the list, but people who came here of their own volition are also obviously higher priority than people who didn't, right?
this has been debunked on other threads. food prices won't skyrocket up if all illegal aliens are removed.
Local News | Low-paid illegal work force has little impact on prices | Seattle Times Newspaper
The same way Reagan Amnesty attracted more illegals.Because of the Reagan Amnesty we went from 3 million illegals to 12-20 million plus illegals in 26 years because all those illegals figured that scum in office would give them amnesty too.Why wouldn't a parents pack up all their kids and sneak across the border when pro-illegal scum are basically going to give their kids amnesty.how would this law attract more illegals?
How do you prove how long someone is here illegally?After all pro-illegals love to call them undocumented. So are you supposed to prove how long someone has been here when they do not have any documentation? Do you honestly believe that out of the 12-20 million plus illegals in this country that only 800,000 of them will get immunity/amnesty?new illegals won't be covered by this new rule.
It amazes me how pro-illegals try to push the idea that food prices will skyrocket if the farmers who have been hiring illegalls suddenly were forced to hire legal workers.
I'm wondering why Romney still hasn't come out saying that he would reverse this decision.
What do you think will happen when farmers are forced to actually pay min wage for workers? Do you think the farmers will just eat the additional cost or what? Of course food prices will go up.
Explain to me how you think it works. A law enforcement agency is given a budget of say $40 billion and it would cost $10 trillion to catch everybody violating a law it is charged with enforcing. Are you saying they should just blow the $40 billion on the first cases that happen to cross its path no matter how much it costs and then let everybody else go? Of course not. It needs to use its discretion to try to accomplish the most good with its finite resources. Right?
It amazes me how pro-illegals try to push the idea that food prices will skyrocket if the farmers who have been hiring illegalls suddenly were forced to hire legal workers.
What do you think will happen when farmers are forced to actually pay min wage for workers? Do you think the farmers will just eat the additional cost or what?
Of course food prices will go up.
So it has nothing to do with stepped up enforcement and border security. That would indicate to me that there's no point in further boosting enforcement and border security, because those efforts have NO effect.
If Law Enforcement is on the Border, why would they run toward it? If they got caught in the U.S.even exiting they lose their ability to come back legally, do you think they're all stupid?
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