Another Good Guy with a Gun...

[TurtleDude]

If you're in the crowd, you would go down faster than you could turn your head. Only the AR15 can create such battlefield type damage.

where do you come up with this silliness?

 

[ataraxia]

where do you come up with this silliness?

You think this guy telling me he could cause that kind of damage from the hotel room with just a pistol is really sound and knowledgeable. Funny.

 

[TurtleDude]

So what do you need for home defense?

depends on the situation-which is why I have handguns, shotguns and a SIG MCX semi auto rifle available for home defense.

 

[TurtleDude]

You think this guy telling me he could cause that kind of damage from the hotel room with just a pistol is really sound and knowledgeable. Funny.

what do you think a trained shooter could have done with a couple MI Garand Rifles or FN FAL battle rifles? Ten minutes of uninterrupted shooting.

 

[ataraxia]

If he's auto fire, probably. If I'm in the crowd, there's no comparison. For every fifty I kill, he'll wound ten.

Vegas, Sandy Hook, Orlando, etc... you match yourself up with a pistol with any of those guys with the AR15s, and they will win every time. Because the AR15 is a weapon designed to inflict mass casualty. Pistols are just for self defense.

You would just be using a spoon to dig a hole, when they got a backhoe. They will win. Every time.

 

[ataraxia]

depends on the situation-which is why I have handguns, shotguns and a SIG MCX semi auto rifle available for home defense.

The latter for, I am sure, when your house is invaded by an army.

 

[ecofarm]

what do you think a trained shooter could have done with a couple MI Garand Rifles or FN FAL battle rifles? Ten minutes of uninterrupted shooting.

That should be 200 dead. I'd fire every three seconds at the bottom of my breath.

 

[ecofarm]

Vegas, Sandy Hook, Orlando, etc... you match yourself up with a pistol with any of those guys with the AR15s, and they will win every time. Because the AR15 is a weapon designed to inflict mass casualty. Pistols are just for self defense.

You would just be using a spoon to dig a hole, when they got a backhoe. They will win. Every time.

I win because I was paratrooper and know how to effectively employ fire. Unlike that moron.

 

[ataraxia]

I win because I was paratrooper and know how to effectively employ fire. Unlike that moron.

If you were sitting up in that hotel room in Vegas, or had just walked into the Sandy Hook Elementary School, or just walked in to the Orlando night club, what would your choice be?

 

[TurtleDude]

The latter for, I am sure, when your house is invaded by an army.

do you really want to argue with me the usefulness of firearms that you clearly are ignorant about.

 

[TurtleDude]

If you were sitting up in that hotel room in Vegas, or had just walked into the Sandy Hook Elementary School, or just walked in to the Orlando night club, what would your choice be?

mine would be a belt fed medium machine gun with a spare barrel. that sort of auto fire and that amount of ammo would be brutal. But if my choice was a few rifles with or without bumpstocks, I'd ditch the bumpstocks.

 

[TurtleDude]

Vegas, Sandy Hook, Orlando, etc... you match yourself up with a pistol with any of those guys with the AR15s, and they will win every time. Because the AR15 is a weapon designed to inflict mass casualty. Pistols are just for self defense.

You would just be using a spoon to dig a hole, when they got a backhoe. They will win. Every time.

where do you come up with this absolute nonsense?

 

[ecofarm]

Wait. So you think that sitting up in that hotel room with just a pistol you would outperform the guy with the AR15s?

In death, maybe. In wounds, no. If I'm in the crowd, no comparison.

You're ignoring his auto fire.

 

[TurtleDude]

In death, maybe. In wounds, no. If I'm in the crowd, no comparison.

You're ignoring his auto fire.

it really wasn't auto fire, it was bump stock fire that approached the same rate of fire of a real automatic weapon

 

[ecofarm]

If you're in the crowd, you would go down faster than you could turn your head. Only the AR15 can create such battlefield type damage.

I have a lot of AR training. Thousands of rounds, live fire exercises, night fire, you name it. Slept with the damn thing too many nights. Jumped with it a couple dozen times. I know what I'm talking about.

You have no concept of the ineffectiveness of auto fire.

 

[ataraxia]

it really wasn't auto fire, it was bump stock fire that approached the same rate of fire of a real automatic weapon

Most experts, when watching the video, could not tell the difference.

Thankfully, the bump stocks are illegal now. I remember you hated that. I am sure you felt you needed that to defend your home, being the expert that you are.

 

[TurtleDude]

Most experts, when watching the video, could not tell the difference.

Thankfully, the bump stocks are illegal now. I remember you hated that. I am sure you felt you needed that to defend your home, being the expert that you are.

I have no desire to own one. I despise stupid laws that are designed to pander to stupid people

 

[ataraxia]

I have a lot of AR training. Thousands of rounds, live fire exercises, night fire, you name it. Slept with the damn thing too many nights. Jumped with it a couple dozen times. I know what I'm talking about.

You have no concept of the ineffectiveness of auto fire.

You don't know more than a 4-star general, soldier.

“I spent a career carrying typically either an M16 or an M4 Carbine. An M4 Carbine fires a .223 caliber round which is 5.56 mm at about 3000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed for that. That’s what our soldiers ought to carry. I personally don’t think there’s any need for that kind of weaponry on the streets and particularly around the schools in America.

The number of people in America killed by firearms is extraordinary compared to other nations, and I don’t think we’re a bloodthirsty country. We need to look at everything we can do to safeguard our people.”
-Gen. Stanley McChrystal

 

[ecofarm]

If you were sitting up in that hotel room in Vegas, or had just walked into the Sandy Hook Elementary School, or just walked in to the Orlando night club, what would your choice be?

A bomb or poison the water supply.

 

[ataraxia]

I have no desire to own one. I despise stupid laws that are designed to pander to stupid people

Unfortunately, the world is full of stupid people. Laws are meant to protect people against them.

 

[ataraxia]

A bomb or poison the water supply.

Clever. But I was talking about a pistol vs. the AR15.

Bombs and poisons already have pretty good regulations on them.

 

[ecofarm]

Clever. But I was talking about a pistol vs. the AR15.

Bombs and poisons already have pretty good regulations on them.

Couldn't stop me.

 

[TurtleDude]

Unfortunately, the world is full of stupid people. Laws are meant to protect people against them.

stupid laws protect no one and often make things worse

 

[ataraxia]

Couldn't stop me.

Knocking over the chess pieces, I see. OK.

 

[ataraxia]

stupid laws protect no one and often make things worse

Who said they were stupid. All developed nations have them (besides us, of course- and that's why we are the massacre capital of the world. So who is stupid now?)