An interesting event at coffee this morning.

[woodsman]

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Actually, in all serious, this is why you're not taken seriously.

I’d be interested in what your political lean is, all we have is your posting history and that sure doesn’t back up “I’m not on the left claim”. An interesting point, you claim to not get personal but go into that very thing.

Even more so since I'm not on the left and it's not particularly 'personal' to make an observation based on an utterly unhinged and deeply dishonest rant.

Ha! You'll understand of course if, based on your posting history, I find no credible evidence to believe you.

LOL! Not, it's not even remotely serious. Fun to hear that coming from a MAGA cultist who venerates and worships twump as a literal god.

 

[Moderate Right]

Five days a week my wife and I have coffee with about 20 regular attendees. This morning a lady showed up that one of the members knew. I had never met the woman before. There was some light political discussion going on. When I suggested that many democrats cant get over the fact that "her turn" Hillary didnt get elected, this woman exploded on me. She was loud uncivil and profane, and told me to shut the **** up. It is like no one can have a political view other than what the left says is ok.


My question is----------------- why is this so common among the far left?

It's a genetic thing and I don't think there is a cure for it. It's like being right handed or left handed.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

I’d be interested in what your political lean is, all we have is your posting history and that sure doesn’t back up “I’m not on the left claim”. An interesting point, you claim to not get personal but go into that very thing.

My views go all across the spectrum for different issues. The only 'lean' I might have is libertarian, but I also understand we need to function healthily as a society and that means quite often gov't involvement.

My posting history doesn't support anything 'left wing' overall.

What's most telling here is that it's pretty clear you don't have any genuine interest in this, as you're simply looking for a label to use in order to avoid having to think about actual positions.

 

[jpn]

Actually, in all seriousness, many people on the left treat politics as a religion. They have generally eschewed God in favor of political policy that they see as benefiting them in some way. When someone questions their politics it is, to them, much the same as if someone were to question the beliefs of a devotee of some other religion. They tend to lash out because they perceive "infidels" as a threat not only to their beliefs but to their very lives. To them there is no such thing as independence. In their minds the only way one can achieve independence through destruction of government.

In all seriousness, many on the left are sick of the rank hypocrisy of the right who claim religion all for their own, as if Jesus wanted only tax cuts for the rich and no aid to the needy.
Here's "Christianity" in the hands of a good Republican: YouTube

 

[jpn]

Combative???????????? No I just like a good debate on current politics, and like to win.

The last phrase says it all.

There is no "winning" in conversations between the left and the right these days. Both have starting positions that include assumptions the other doesn't share. The only way for one side to "win" is to shout louder and more insistently so the other gives up trying to communicate with you. If that's "winning," it's a very thin notion of the word.

The best we can do is gain some appreciation of the other's POV, and hope they can gain some of ours. Shouting can feel better though.

 

[Lutherf]

In all seriousness, many on the left are sick of the rank hypocrisy of the right who claim religion all for their own, as if Jesus wanted only tax cuts for the rich and no aid to the needy.
Here's "Christianity" in the hands of a good Republican: YouTube

I'm certainly not claiming religion as my own. That would be pretty much antithetical to the purpose of religion. What I said is that many on the left have eschewed God, as understood by various historical religious movements, and replaced that concept with the idea that government is better suited to provide the comfort and confidence that the religiously devoted find in God.

 

[woodsman]

My views go all across the spectrum for different issues. The only 'lean' I might have is libertarian, but I also understand we need to function healthily as a society and that means quite often gov't involvement.

My posting history doesn't support anything 'left wing' overall.

What's most telling here is that it's pretty clear you don't have any genuine interest in this, as you're simply looking for a label to use in order to avoid having to think about actual positions.

I have to say, this is the first post I have read from you that wasn’t full on political/personal attack mode even if you had to get in a jab at the end.

Cheers….

 

[maxparrish]

Five days a week my wife and I have coffee with about 20 regular attendees. This morning a lady showed up that one of the members knew. I had never met the woman before. There was some light political discussion going on. When I suggested that many democrats cant get over the fact that "her turn" Hillary didnt get elected, this woman exploded on me. She was loud uncivil and profane, and told me to shut the **** up. It is like no one can have a political view other than what the left says is ok.


My question is----------------- why is this so common among the far left?

That's an interesting question, not because uncivil behavior is always confined to the left but because since the 60s the left has been the home of the majority of such every-day out-of-control personal rage.

Crusading political identity, as part of a movement, is often their ONLY identity. It is often a mask and substitute for looking inward, ignoring personal issues and shortcomings. After all, why should one look at their crappy marriage, disobedient kids, frustrated career ambitions, or general unhappiness WHEN one can immerse themselves into a distraction by raging for "justice"?

And when you combine self-righteous and "on the side of history" arrogance with extreme social tolerance and sympathy for certain viewpoints you get a personae who feels entitled to be a rage filled a-hole.

A digression: I was at a friends party and met one of his co-workers. She wasn't rude but she was hyped up on her politics and love of the Kennedy's. Rather than sour the mood with my own opinion, I only teased her in a light hearted tone by mentioning "Judith Exner" and a few other Kennedy dalliances. While all laughed she became incredibly distraught, so much so I heard that my teasing had sent her to a therapist for help in dealing with someone questioning her political beliefs.

So I suppose the lesson here is that such folks, as you describe, are allowed to rage because otherwise we'd have to be honest, or recommend a good shrink.

 

[jpn]

I'm certainly not claiming religion as my own. That would be pretty much antithetical to the purpose of religion. What I said is that many on the left have eschewed God, as understood by various historical religious movements, and replaced that concept with the idea that government is better suited to provide the comfort and confidence that the religiously devoted find in God.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. As someone from the left who doesn't believe in god, maybe I can address your assertion. I don't share your opinion that some on the left think that government is supposed to be a substitute for belief in the supernatural.
We simply recognize social issues and the need to address them. If they are private charities, church groups, or government programs, it's all good.

No one to my knowledge is trying to "replace" religion in American society.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Cool story bro. I was assaulted by a gang of kids wearing MAGA hats this morning. Why is violence among the right so common?

I had coffee with 10 Trump supporters this morning, when I mentioned I didn't like Trump they all took their white hoods off and threw them at me.

 

[jpn]

That's an interesting question, not because uncivil behavior is always confined to the left but because since the 60s the left has been the home of the majority of such every-day out-of-control personal rage.

False. Or provide something other than personal anecdotes to support this silly assertion, especially since in the Age of Trump the incidence of white supremacist violence has increased.

Meanwhile, the assertion that self-righteousness is unique to the left is just frickin' amazing.

 

[jpn]

I had coffee with 10 Trump supporters this morning, when I mentioned I didn't like Trump they all took their white hoods off and threw them at me.

:lamo

SenorXm/Sirius, nice to meet ya!

 

[jpn]

I do not worship Trump as a literal god. That would be excommunicable heresy in my actual religion

Excommunication? OMG, your religion still actually does that!?! And who knows the mind of god so well as to make that determination? I want to meet this guy. I assume it's a guy.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Excommunication? OMG, your religion still actually does that!?! And who knows the mind of god so well as to make that determination? I want to meet this guy. I assume it's a guy.

Yes. The Catholic Church excommunicates people.

We can do that because Peter and by extension his successors was given the authority to bind and loose in heaven and earth.

 

[jpn]

I don’t think your premise or opinion holds up with todays vitriol from the left. It would be hard to source a group of strong left leaning democrats that isn’t filled with the artificial hate fed them by democratic politicians and partnered with the Left media.
The above isn’t a conspiracy theory, the DNC does work hand in hand with the willing media baying for kibble in the form of talking points.

This is one of the most outstanding examples of projection I've ever seen.

 

[element94]

Five days a week my wife and I have coffee with about 20 regular attendees. This morning a lady showed up that one of the members knew. I had never met the woman before. There was some light political discussion going on. When I suggested that many democrats cant get over the fact that "her turn" Hillary didnt get elected, this woman exploded on me. She was loud uncivil and profane, and told me to shut the **** up. It is like no one can have a political view other than what the left says is ok.


My question is----------------- why is this so common among the far left?

Another Liberal hit piece by you - in the form of an anecdotal fairy tale.

A more realistic scenario has you peddling Trump conspiracy nonsense and someone telling you to cram it.

Plus, they have the worse example of an a-hole going off all the time in one Donald Trump. Ever watched his bat**** bonkers rallies? No sympathy here.

 

[Port & Starboard]

At least she didnt go all Charlottesville and run you down after coffee, right?

Point being, its not like the left has the patent on loud assholes.....we just tend to force you to see them in day to day life as opposed to making them our talking heads and go to's for information every night.

Or shoot up a softball practice.

 

[jpn]

Yes. The Catholic Church excommunicates people.
We can do that because Peter and by extension his successors was given the authority to bind and loose in heaven and earth.

M'kay. What do you think about the new Pope? I like him. He seems to be returning the Church to a focus on people in need rather than obsessing on "proper" behavior in the bedroom.
Have you seen the movie, "The Two Popes?"

 

[EMNofSeattle]

M'kay. What do you think about the new Pope? I like him. He seems to be returning the Church to a focus on people in need rather than obsessing on "proper" behavior in the bedroom.
Have you seen the movie, "The Two Popes?"

Pope Francis has not changed any of the Church’s teachings on sexuality or sexual ethics.

 

[woodsman]

This is one of the most outstanding examples of projection I've ever seen.

What exactly do you feel is projection? Feel free to go thru my post and debunk with some facts or a coherent opinion, after all, this is a debate board.

 

[element94]

It's Trump's fault.

Donald Trump and everyone that voted for him have created an environment where otherwise normal people can no longer control their emotions.

Actually, in all seriousness, many people on the left treat politics as a religion. They have generally eschewed God in favor of political policy that they see as benefiting them in some way. When someone questions their politics it is, to them, much the same as if someone were to question the beliefs of a devotee of some other religion. They tend to lash out because they perceive "infidels" as a threat not only to their beliefs but to their very lives. To them there is no such thing as independence. In their minds the only way one can achieve independence through destruction of government.

In my mind, it would be better to eschew God than to be a hypocrite!
As for the destruction of Government, it is the Republican party that is guilty by supporting and covering up for a lawless President!

 

[ecofarm]

Pope Francis has not changed any of the Church’s teachings on sexuality or sexual ethics.

Orientation is not ethics.

 

[jpn]

Pope Francis has not changed any of the Church’s teachings on sexuality or sexual ethics.

Sure. But he sure has changed the focus and emphasis. For the better, IMHO.

 

[jpn]

What exactly do you feel is projection? Feel free to go thru my post and debunk with some facts or a coherent opinion, after all, this is a debate board.

Here's what you wrote:

I don’t think your premise or opinion holds up with todays vitriol from the left. It would be hard to source a group of strong left leaning democrats that isn’t filled with the artificial hate fed them by democratic politicians and partnered with the Left media.

The above isn’t a conspiracy theory, the DNC does work hand in hand with the willing media baying for kibble in the form of talking points.

You make a bland assertion with no evidence. Please provide some evidence.
Meanwhile, Fox News is basically Trump TV. Members of Fox end up in his criminal enterprise (oops, I mean his administration) and vice versa on a regular basis.
As for talking points, the Republicans get them from Russia. (The link I provided is one of many I could have chosen from. Just Google it.)

 

[tres borrachos]

Five days a week my wife and I have coffee with about 20 regular attendees. This morning a lady showed up that one of the members knew. I had never met the woman before. There was some light political discussion going on. When I suggested that many democrats cant get over the fact that "her turn" Hillary didnt get elected, this woman exploded on me. She was loud uncivil and profane, and told me to shut the **** up. It is like no one can have a political view other than what the left says is ok.


My question is----------------- why is this so common among the far left?

Yes, she should take a lesson in civility from President Trump, who we all know is just the classiest and most adult person in every room.

And personal anecdotes on this board are almost always made up. Like yours.

Lots of people dislike Trump and it has exactly nothing to do with "her turn" Hillary. Maybe your complete ignorance is what made that woman explode.