An effective summary of why Trump is such a disgrace

[TurtleDude]

That's one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that Trump supporters cared about something that did not matter.

well when big tech covers it up, people weren't able to decide. Of course you will assert that stuff that was harmful to your god, doesn't matter

 

[TurtleDude]

There is nothing to have to assume. It was all fact:

- Russia did interfere.
- Russia did want Trump elected.
- Trump did defend Putin against America.
- Trump did provide Putin a year's worth of unchallenged pipeline diplomacy as far as Western Europe.
- Trump did betray the Kurds and the American troop by handing the territory over to Russia's influence.
- Trump did betray American democracy and its integrity by asking Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election.
- Trump's National Security Advisor did betray his uniform and country again by calling upon the military to implement sedition in order to suspend the Constitution.

- The right-wing is actively denigrating Biden's wife for her doctorate, accusing her of pretending to be a medical doctor. Clearly, the ignorant game begins.

This is all widely understood fact and all clearly documented. Your rejection is only about a partisan's need to avoid facing what you so clearly support. It's called denial. You support a traitor and his treason. You also support the gutter tactics of the right-wing to viciously attack and exaggerate everything into a false political rallying cry against "the other." Birth certificates! Tomato paste! Benghazi! PizzaGate! Virus hoax! QAnon! Election fraud!

See what I mean? In the absence of any real surviving ideology and the absence of an actual reason to criticize, the right-wing merely invents a reason for you to cling to. So far, with Biden, it's the lie that his wife pretends to be a medical doctor. Given another three years of professional study, I could be a doctor. But before this attack on his wife's education, the right-wing provided you all the routine "communist and socialist" nonsense to guide your irrational hate.

Ultimately, the need to exaggerate Biden, and to attack, comes down to only trying to defend what you and others have blindly supported for four years. If you can make Biden look just as bad, no matter how much you have to exaggerate and lie to do it, you exonerate yourselves in your own easily manipulated minds. After all, with over half the Republicans in this country still believing that Obama is an African-born Muslim as late as 2017, the need to be manipulated away from taking responsibility for poor behavior is apparent.

Bullshit. pure bullshit and we both know it. Your attempt to divert with birther nonsense is just that.

 

[MSgt]

Bullshit. pure bullshit and we both know it. Your attempt to divert with birther nonsense is just that.

Not bullshit. Just simple facts that threaten your pathetic partisan bubble. How sad that you have allowed yourself to become a person who truly needs to pretend that a simple fact is not a simple fact. And birther "nonsense?" It's your nonsense.

Do you ever get the feeling that you are almost entirely worthless? Not with the right-wing feeding debunked and nonsensical shit into your ears, huh? It gives you meaning.

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

The reply of an uniformed drone. Go away and get your life together.

I'm uninformed? You people are blind idiots. If Trump ordered you to drink Cyanide laced koolaid, you and yours would ask "one glass or 2?". The man is a fukking fraud. What is it about 58 court cases being thrown out DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND????Like I said above, the monster will be in federal prison in less than 12 months where he belongs. And they should throw away the key.

You and yours come here and continue this vomit of voter fraud and the rancid stench of your shit is fumigating real Americans. Even Trump sycophant loyalists, such as Barr. Christie and even Mitch McConnell have said to you. "Biden won, and people like you need to grow the fukk up"

Like I told you above, get the professional help you need before your life is completely ruined by this fraudster..

 

[TurtleDude]

Not bullshit. Just simple facts that threaten your pathetic partisan bubble. And birther nonsense? It's your nonsense.

Do you ever get the feeling that you are almost entirely worthless? Not with the right-wing feeding debunked and nonsensical shit into your ears, huh?

pathetic partisan bubble is the best description of the garbage you post. I never bought into the birther crap-not when Hillary started it and not when Trump was spewing it. Try again. As to feeling almost entirely worthless? Nah I leave that for those who really are

 

[Grand Mal]

Bullshit. pure bullshit and we both know it. Your attempt to divert with birther nonsense is just that.

Looks pretty accurate to me.
For example- Russia interfered in the election, right?

 

[TurtleDude]

I'm uninformed? You people are blind idiots. If Trump ordered you to drink Cyanide laced koolaid, you and yours would ask "one glass or 2?". The man is a fukking fraud. What is it about 58 court cases being thrown out DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND????Like I said above, the monster will be in federal prison in less than 12 months where he belongs. And they should throw away the key.

You and yours come here and continue this vomit of voter fraud and the rancid stench of your shit is fumigating real Americans. Even Trump sycophant loyalists, such as Barr. Christie and even Mitch McConnell have said to you. "Biden won, and people like you need to grow the fukk up"

Like I told you above, get the professional help you need before your life is completely ruined by this fraudster..

How is anyone who is industrious or successful harmed by Trump? the turd you guys voted for campaigned against the winners. The Dem platform is one of class envy.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

How is anyone who is industrious or successful harmed by Trump? the turd you guys voted for campaigned against the winners. The Dem platform is one of class envy.

The destruction of our institutions and the Rule of Law has an impact on every citizen.

Trump is a corrupt person who would have further corrupted our country.

Corruption has a long-term negative impact on economic growth, and overall happiness:

What Makes Countries Corrupt

A number of social and economic factors have astonishing correlations with a nation's political behavior

www.theatlantic.com

When someone engages in a corrupt action to benefit themselves or their business they are not "winners", they are cheaters.

Many Trump supporters cannot understand this. Part of the reason, I suspect, is that many Trump supporters are bad people who do not care about the difference between right and wrong. Many Trump supporters are essentially immoral people who do not care about the consequences of their actions, or about the overall wellbeing of society in general. I also think civic virtue and morality is something that requires a higher level of thinking than most Trump supporters are capable of. Many Trump supporters are just too stupid to know the difference between right and wrong, and too stupid to understand the long-term consequences of corruption. They have to be told that corruption is bad.

 

[TurtleDude]

The destruction of our institutions and the Rule of Law has an impact on every citizen.

Trump is a corrupt person who would have further corrupted our country.

Corruption has a long-term negative impact on economic growth, and overall happiness:

What Makes Countries Corrupt

A number of social and economic factors have astonishing correlations with a nation's political behavior

www.theatlantic.com

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When someone engages in a corrupt action to benefit themselves or their business they are not "winners", they are cheaters.

Many Trump supporters cannot understand this. Part of the reason, I suspect, is that many Trump supporters are bad people who do not care about the difference between right and wrong. Many Trump supporters are essentially immoral people who do not care about the consequences of their actions, or about the overall wellbeing of society in general. I also think civic virtue and morality is something that requires a higher level of thinking than most Trump supporters are capable of. Many Trump supporters are just too stupid to know the difference between right and wrong, and too stupid to understand the long-term consequences of corruption. They have to be told that corruption is bad.

stop pretending that failure to accept the propaganda you spew=lack of understanding. I realize page one of the Biden fluffers' handbook is constantly pretending that they are smarter than Trump voters. That is a blatant lie and is really stupid

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

Pfizer and Moderna has rushed through the vaccine in record time because technological advancements in this field has grown immensely. And thank God that it has. Pfizer and Moderna produced vaccines as quickly as possible because there was a global crisis and nothing else and they answered the bell. Do you radical right wing Trump supporters believe they did it because Trump told them to? Really? I mean really?? What the fukk is wrong with you people?

Just as John McEnroe yelled to the umpire during a Wimbledon match decades ago. "You cannot be serious".

Trump had absolutely nothing to do with this "warp speed" nonsense. Absolutely NOTHING. To suggest Trump is the :"hero" regarding anything pandemic related is a full blown, slug in the mouth to the 310,000 families of grieving Americans who are without their loved ones this Holiday season. The vast majority of these people would still be here if the idiot in the White House would have listened to the health care professionals way back in January.

 

[MSgt]

pathetic partisan bubble is the best description of the garbage you post.

That's because you people have proven time and again to deflect and lash out when truth makes you uncomfortable about your delusions. You accuse "the other" while actually doing it. For example, it is clearly documented that Republicans are the ones who frequent election fraud and employ anti-democratic methods. Yet, you people simply deny and accuse "the other" without offering any evidence.

Thus, your denial has you accusing a person who is neither a Democrat nor a Republican, as "partisan." You can't even recognize it in yourself.

I never bought into the birther crap-not when Hillary started it and not when Trump was spewing it.

Yet, Clinton did not start it. Trump merely told you that she did:

After years of denying the legitimacy of Barack Obama’s presidency, it was only in the midst of his own presidential campaign that Donald Trump began falsely claiming Hillary Clinton was the true progenitor of the “birther” conspiracy theory claiming Obama was not born in the United States.

But that’s swapping one discredited claim for another. Numerous fact checks, reports and interviews — in 2008 and 2011, when Trump revived the controversy — revealed that although some Clinton supporters circulated rumors about Obama’s citizenship, the campaign and Clinton herself never trafficked in it.

In fact, birtherism, as it’s been called, reportedly began with innuendo by serial Illinois political candidate Andy Martin, who painted Obama as a closet Muslim in 2004. That spiraled into a concerted effort by conspiracy theorists to raise doubts about Obama’s birthplace and religion — and essentially paint him as un-American.

But you know this. Smarter and brighter people have smacked you repeatedly with this. You simply and obtusely prefer your right-wing inspired shit. See what I mean about your preference to deny reality and truth so that you can protect the ignorance of partisanship? You need the rumor to be true so you can rationalize your irrational venom. Here you claim not have been a Birther, yet you damn well allow the right-wing to spill shit in your ears. Just as bad. The reason the GOP is such garbage anymore is that its constituents likes their intelligence insulted.

 

[Nickyjo]

What bungling? You mean when he said that it is xenophobic to close the border with China, that idiocy? Oh, wait, that was Biden.

Probably was at least partkybxenophobic. Think Trump would have closed the border with Russia?

 

[TurtleDude]

That's because you people have proven time and again to deflect and lash out when truth makes you uncomfortable about your delusions. You accuse "the other" while actually doing it. For example, it is clearly documented that Republicans are the ones who frequent election fraud and employ anti-democratic methods. Yet, you people simply deny and accuse "the other" without offering any evidence.

Thus, your denial has you accusing a person who is neither a Democrat nor a Republican, as "partisan." You can't even recognize it in yourself.



Yet, Clinton did not start it. Trump merely told you that she did:



But you know this. Smarter and brighter people have smacked you repeatedly with this. You simply and obtusely prefer your right-wing inspired shit. See what I mean about your preference to deny reality and truth so that you can protect the ignorance of partisanship? You need the rumor to be true so you can rationalize your irrational venom. Here you claim not have been a Birther, yet you damn well allow the right-wing to spill shit in your ears. Just as bad. The reason the GOP is such garbage anymore is that its constituents likes their intelligence insulted.

who are these smarter and brighter people? You want to pretend those who voted for Biden are smarter than Trump voters. That is such a stupid statement it destroys your entire argument. Just give it up. there are smart reasons to have voted for Biden and just as many smart reasons to support Trump.

 

[MSgt]

stop pretending that failure to accept the propaganda you spew=lack of understanding. I realize page one of the Biden fluffers' handbook is constantly pretending that they are smarter than Trump voters. That is a blatant lie and is really stupid

Um...you people prove that liberals (and virtually everybody else walking the planet) are smarter all the time.

- Is Global Warming still just a liberal hoax?

- Was Obama born in Africa?

- Is tomato paste a vegetable?

- Did Hillary conspire to murder Americans in Benghazi?

- Is their a sex slave ring under pizza parlors?

- Is the virus, which has recorded among the worst daily deaths in American history, still just a hoax?

- Where did the QAnon thingy go?

- Without any evidence for a single one of Trump's appointed judges to consider, is there still a grand Democrat program to cheat Trump (and by extension you)?

- Are your temporary tax-cuts not already expiring while the Trump's kind enjoy the permanent cuts you all defended?

Funny how that "deep state" just grows and grows every time the latest ignorant conspiracy is shattered. Now we have Trump's Supreme Court nominees included. And with Trump angry at FOX News? How far to the right does a conservatives have to venture in order to feel comfortable these days? Oh yeah, just lash out at American democracy for not delivering Trump a crown and denigrate Biden's wife from the alt-Right porch. That's a start.

It's not the liberals who cling to such nonsense to define themselves. It's not the liberals who dismiss facts and summation as a matter of "that's your education talking." You all frown on education because you believe that wider understanding is simply a matte of turning "liberal." Shouldn't that tell you something? For example: instead of clinging to right-wing rhetoric and a Trump Tweet about North Korea...read a few books on the history of North Korea and American Foreign Policy. Afterwards, it might not be so easy to swallow right-wing inspired nonsense. Face it, you people routinely fill the role that the right-wing wants you to fill, because you are easily manipulated by a lack of personal and formal education through your baser non-empathetic instincts and irrational and unexplainable hate.

* And trying to denigrate people who support Biden as "fluffers," while Biden has yet to provide any real controversy, does not excuse the routine blowjob that Trumpists routinely engaged in, despite His constancy for real scandal and national betrayal.

 

[MSgt]

who are these smarter and brighter people?

The ones who are not you and the rest of the mindless mob who swooned for a national traitor, over, and over, and over, and over.....

You people can't even accept American democracy now that it too is forcing you all to look in the mirror. Always lashing out. Always looking for the next conspiracy to legitimize your devotion to a Party. Always denying. Always historical.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

stop pretending that failure to accept the propaganda you spew=lack of understanding.

You're avoiding the point.

This is the question you asked:

How is anyone who is industrious or successful harmed by Trump?

My answer was very simple and very straightforward:

In the long-term, corruption hurts everyone.

Now, my question to you is...why are you okay with corruption?

Is it because you don't understand why corruption is bad for our society or is it because you just don't care if it is?

Which one is it?

 

[The Hairy Fiddler]

How is anyone who is industrious or successful harmed by Trump? the turd you guys voted for campaigned against the winners. The Dem platform is one of class envy.

Bankrupting 6 corporations under his watch is neither industrious nor successful. The guy is a cheat, a fraud, a marauder. a charlatan.

 

[Anthony60]

There is no integrity in deflection:

- It was Trump who opened his mouth and took communist Putin in; and dared you to say something.

- It was Trump who had a "special bond" with communist North Korea; and dared you to say something.

- And while you like to believe that the Biden conspiracy with Ukraine is not widely debunked and exaggerated, it was Trump who asked Ukraine to interfere on his behalf in the 2020 election; and dared you to hold him accountable.

You supported all of this. You said nothing and you encouraged his treason. Thus, you don't get to default back to your whining about communism now, or exaggerating a Biden issue in order to defend your national betrayal for an individual who celebrated communist regimes and domestic socialism. That ship has sailed. Congratulations on where your partisan blindness led you.

LOL! You think that saying the same false garbage over and over again will somehow make it true. Still a lie, always a lie.
Trump "took in" Putin? What does that even mean? He put tougher sanctions on Russia than Obama ever did, and didn't grovel to Putin's underling for more time after the election (one of the most embarrassing moment ever for this country).

 

[Anthony60]

You do not get to tell anyone what the **** to do. All you are doing is demonstrating ignorance and imbecility.

Trump and his ass kissing morons are LOSERS, get over it and get on with your life as soon as you can stop crying.

You really should stop posting until you can get your information to a more believable level. Just trying to help.

 

[Anthony60]

And it did NOTHING for the development.

Please don't tell me you think that is really true. They were guaranteed $2 billion if they developed with a vaccine. I guess you have no idea how business are run. Imagine the CEO turning it down, and telling that to shareholders. Getting the picture yet? My guess is no.

 

[Anthony60]

Yeah right. Pretty standard response when you're empty-handed.

That's my standard response for the empty brained people. You know, low information types.

 

[Anthony60]

I'm uninformed? You people are blind idiots. If Trump ordered you to drink Cyanide laced koolaid, you and yours would ask "one glass or 2?". The man is a fukking fraud. What is it about 58 court cases being thrown out DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND????Like I said above, the monster will be in federal prison in less than 12 months where he belongs. And they should throw away the key.

You and yours come here and continue this vomit of voter fraud and the rancid stench of your shit is fumigating real Americans. Even Trump sycophant loyalists, such as Barr. Christie and even Mitch McConnell have said to you. "Biden won, and people like you need to grow the fukk up"

Like I told you above, get the professional help you need before your life is completely ruined by this fraudster..

Your response is that of a raving lunatic. Probably have a full diaper too. Notice, you don't address the incidents of fraud, you just say so and so said Biden won, so he won. Sorry, doesn't work that way.

 

[Anthony60]

Probably was at least partkybxenophobic. Think Trump would have closed the border with Russia?

Well, he closed it with China. He would have shut down travel to Russia with a smile.

 

[Anthony60]

who are these smarter and brighter people? You want to pretend those who voted for Biden are smarter than Trump voters. That is such a stupid statement it destroys your entire argument. Just give it up. there are smart reasons to have voted for Biden and just as many smart reasons to support Trump.

Yes, I'd like to know who these "smarter brighter" people are too! Maybe it's that they are so smart, they do a great job of disguising themselves as fools.

 

[Grand Mal]

That's my standard response for the empty brained people. You know, low information types.

It's a standard response from people who have nothing to say but need to have the last word. It's the kind of juvenile shite we used to call 'eternal September' back in the Usenet days.