thinkforyoursel
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30 million? The consensus is more like 8-10 million...in either case, what's your suggestion: Gestapo like storm troopers hunting down "illegals" for mass deportations??
30 million? The consensus is more like 8-10 million...in either case,
what's your suggestion:
Gestapo like storm troopers hunting down "illegals" for mass deportations??
Think like an adult. There are options between the two extremes. Also it is somewhat disgusting to hear folks toss around analogies like Gestapo storm troopers. Do you believe our law officers would treat people the way Nazis did 70 years ago, pathetic.
So what do you do with the people already here?
I am well aware of that.Some come from Canada,some come from China,a huge vast majority of them come from Mexico, and central and south America.Oh btw not all undocumented aliens are from Mexico.
You encourage them to leave? Really??? Get real!
Some of these people have kids here etc, they're not leaving and if you were them, neither would you.
Seriously .....democrat or republican ....who are the Americans out there wanting to instantaneously inject some 30 million people in the country?
How did this happen ....what could possibly be good about this plan?
How could illegal people ....over-ride the will of legal Americans ...in America?
This is what happens when politicians today have no shame ...they make no excuse to cast votes only for their self interest.
I mean that practice today seems perfectly acceptable.....the electorate have somehow been conned into finding this practice OK!!
This is what the people want, and it also makes sense ....but it doesn't suit MMMEEE ....sorry!
I am 100% sure that granting amnesty today is just ...moving the line along. In 5 to 10 years the next wave of 30 million or so illegals will be here again wanting the same. Dems and Republicans cannot work together because none of the last several presidents did anything about the border, deportation or any of the existing laws to curve the constant stream of illegals.
Health care ....is expensive ...primarily because of these illegals ...yet nobody talks about this.
Why does the government not just knowingly collect taxes from some of these illegals ....but knowingly enlist them in the army? Why are we enlisting illegals ...what is wrong with American citizen? Can I somehow get into China or Russia illegally and tell them I want to enlist in their army?
Just sad to watch this farce .....and I live in non-border red state and the republicans politicians are in bed with the illegals ....such a shame!!!
Which one do you think I'm angry at; the illegal worker making slave wages and just trying to not die, or the employer who's making millions off of breaking the law? Here's a concept, why don't we actually punish the employers who are illegally employing these people and undercutting legal citizens?
I acknowledge that we need stronger border control, but not because of illegal workers. The drug trade in Mexico is leading to not only an influx of drug trafficking, but a lot of the problems that drive Mexican workers towards greener pastures. The easiest way to solve this problem is to legalize drugs; kill two birds with one stone (although you shouldn't kill birds).
Native Americans are likely laughing their asses off.
"Yeah! Get out of OUR country!"
Nope, gotta take one for the team.Not even man eating birds that are eating your face?
You encourage them to leave? Really??? Get real!
Some of these people have kids here etc, they're not leaving and if you were them, neither would you.
Native Americans are likely laughing their asses off.
"Yeah! Get out of OUR country!"
They're not leaving even when they have no means to support themselves?
And right after they grant amnesty to illegals the pro-illegal scum in office will yank or neuter that border security and any other enforcement measures.I'm not even all that against amnesty (I'd rather see the border secure FIRST in a SEPARATE bill and amnesty done after we've stopped or significantly reduced the inflow of illegals) but to just give these people amnesty is a slap in the face to every immigrant who went through our contrived immigration system and those who are even now waiting to do things right.
It worked for states that enacted anti-illegal immigration laws.You are not going to stay somewhere you can't get a job.You are not going to stay somewhere you can't enroll your kids into school, get benefits for your kids, use tax payer funded services and etc.
You do realize that bringing up native Americans in an illegal immigration debate only says "this is what will happen to us if we do not crack down on illegal immigration and secure our borders"? You might think you are mocking the anti-illegal immigration side but all you are doing is proving our point.
Seriously .....democrat or republican ....who are the Americans out there wanting to instantaneously inject some 30 million people in the country?
How did this happen ....what could possibly be good about this plan?
How could illegal people ....over-ride the will of legal Americans ...in America?
This is what happens when politicians today have no shame ...they make no excuse to cast votes only for their self interest.
I mean that practice today seems perfectly acceptable.....the electorate have somehow been conned into finding this practice OK!!
This is what the people want, and it also makes sense ....but it doesn't suit MMMEEE ....sorry!
I am 100% sure that granting amnesty today is just ...moving the line along. In 5 to 10 years the next wave of 30 million or so illegals will be here again wanting the same. Dems and Republicans cannot work together because none of the last several presidents did anything about the border, deportation or any of the existing laws to curve the constant stream of illegals.
Health care ....is expensive ...primarily because of these illegals ...yet nobody talks about this.
Why does the government not just knowingly collect taxes from some of these illegals ....but knowingly enlist them in the army? Why are we enlisting illegals ...what is wrong with American citizen? Can I somehow get into China or Russia illegally and tell them I want to enlist in their army?
Just sad to watch this farce .....and I live in non-border red state and the republicans politicians are in bed with the illegals ....such a shame!!!
If immigration reform is not passed the GOP will pay a price in future elections.
"All of the problems that we face in the USA today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian." ~ Pat Paulsen
They went to sanctuary states. States that shield illegals from being arrested or deported, turn a blind eye when it comes to illegals getting jobs, enrolling kids into school, and using tax payer aid.And where did they go?
I wonder if we would have been a better of country if we approached immigration in this manner when it came to Dutch, German, Italians, Irish, Jews, Eastern Europeans and others?
These type of xenophobic approaches show a clear lack of understanding of human history, immigration as a concept, and in broad terms, economics amongst other things.
. The scum in office proved that they won't secure our borders and they won't crack down on illegal immigration and will do everything they can to undermine any efforts against illegal immigration. So only a ****ing moron believes that they would not only secure the border and crack down on illegal immigration but keep those efforts up once illegals have amnesty. Amnesty amounts to pouring gas on a fire and expecting it to put out the fire.Surely we need border security but we also need a real practical approach to deal with these people.
I dare ask you: if you were them, would you leave even in the midst of such measures?
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