jfuh
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Christian & Muslim extremists are an abomination to their very own religion and have no place of existence in this world.Christians had quite a head start, but they didn't have the weapons Muslims have now, so they can easily catch up in a relatively short period of time. Both Christian & Muslim extremists are whackjobs and I wouldn't say one is better than the other because they have killed quite as many people. Both are awful and an embarassment that they exist in this century.
There are several extremist Christian groups. Minor ones here in the US. And of course the larger Aryan Nation has it own church and clergy for one. in Spain Muslims have been getting beat up and worse by a group calling itself "Guerrilleros de Cristo Rey". There are fanatics in all religions. it ONE. Christians have been relatively quiet compared to Muslims and TWO we tend to ignore or reclassify Christian religious wackos as other things. I am sure the more Muslims raise the stakes the more you'll see reactions from extremist Christian groups.
There are cases of Muslim being beat up and even shot here in the US by these groups. There is no danger in America to Christians from local Muslims however. At least i have not heard of any. As good Christians we need to guard against fanatics within our own religion. The Muslims must do the same.
I think that
Non-Muslims get killed all the time by Muslims while in Iran. Muslims that come to the U.S. do not have the same risk getting killed.
Many of these fringe groups are NOT Christian conservatives they are Christian fundamentalists and that's different. Not long ago one of the members of a fundamentalist cult in Peoria IL went on a rampage and killed several people in Illinois and Indiana. Anyone who says these people don't exist in America is deluding himself. They are here and they mean harm to those who oppose them. To say there are none is like a white man saying there is no such thing as discrimination against nonwhites, and you know that there are more than a few who express that idea.No one can deney that religions and/or groups without religion have been guilty of inhumane crimes in the name of their cause. That, however, should not be part of a modern world.
Ask yourself and answer honestly, WHO in todays world is still living in the stone age when it comes to religion? Who is ACTUALLY, killing & mutilating the dead bodies of those that don't agree with their religion? What religion is still acting like they are in the stone age and which one does not behead those who are not attending church but still getting along in a civilized world?
Give me a break. Any one that tries to compare Christian conservatives with Islamic fundamentalists is to be blunt, an idiot.
America's Christian fundamentalist are far and few. In places in the Middle East, there are entire towns or blocks with lots of Islamic fundamentalist. I find it hard to believe that over 30% of the people that voted believe that Islamic fundamentalist are the same to American Christian conservatives. (if you check the poll results, most that voted yes are liberals)
Both groups are fanatical fundamentalists looking to install a religious theocracy in their home countries.
But today only one still uses wholesale violence to spread its doctrine.
While the Christian church of the past used violence to spread its beliefs they have for the most part have left it in the past.
Islam today is heaving with violence.
Theres a difference between being a christian, and being a christian fundamentalist. Fundamentalists want you, and try to make you think like they do.Just to clarify my position a bit more:
I consider Billy Graham a Christian conservative. On the other hand Fred Phelps is a Christian Fundamentalist. The two are as different as day and night.
Sure theres violence coming from Islam...But today only one still uses wholesale violence to spread its doctrine.
While the Christian church of the past used violence to spread its beliefs they have for the most part have left it in the past.
Islam today is heaving with violence.
Sure theres violence coming from Islam...
But theres also lies and a brainswashing muniplutation sheme coming from a lot of different Christian groups...particuallarly Evangelicals and any other heavily "born again" denomination.
I still beñlieve this is due mainly to what I mentioned in my post above about the Dark Ages.
Even in Busddhism. The japanese started having religious wars about 800 years after Buddism came into Japan.
America's Christian fundamentalist are far and few. In places in the Middle East, there are entire towns or blocks with lots of Islamic fundamentalist. I find it hard to believe that over 30% of the people that voted believe that Islamic fundamentalist are the same to American Christian conservatives.
Japanese belief is Shintoism more than buddism - quite different - shintoism had installed the emperor as the son of the heavens. Nevertheless, the religious wars you reference to were wars fought in the name of the emperor as a religious icon more so than fighting in the name of buddha.I still beñlieve this is due mainly to what I mentioned in my post above about the Dark Ages.
Even in Busddhism. The japanese started having religious wars about 800 years after Buddism came into Japan.
You touch on a very interesting point here.True we do have some idiots but ask yourself when the last time you saw a Christian group call for an entire country and its people to be destroyed?
Also when these idiots do push their BS too far we as a people stand against them in PUBLIC. You wont see that in the Middle East...:doh
Japanese belief is Shintoism more than buddism - quite different - shintoism had installed the emperor as the son of the heavens. Nevertheless, the religious wars you reference to were wars fought in the name of the emperor as a religious icon more so than fighting in the name of buddha.
"America's Christian fundamentalist are far and few"?
I think Jerry Falwell would disagree. Jerry's quest for the apocalypse and inability to respect other beliefs puts him in the same class as Islamic extremists.
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