American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq[W:1007]

Grant · Aug 8, 2014

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grip said:
Here's another very possible scenario.

The US allows ISIS to grow in power and scope. They already control more land mass than Great Britain, a far cry more money and stolen US armament than Al Qaeda ever had. They march into southern Iraq taking over Baghdad and the oil fields, then onto Jordan. Iran and Saudi Arabia responds with all out war, possibly blocking the Persian Gulf. Oil markets cause a sudden rise in gas prices, while the weakened global economy causes stock markets start to tank. Eventually they hit the US on its own soil with multiple terrorists attacks. There's your next ten years or WW3.

Russia and China have already moved into Central America, are establishing oil refineries there, as well as a canal between the two oceans to circumvent Panama, and have Venezuela, and possibly Mexico now, as partners. Meanwhile Obama has not only banned oil exploration on government lands, he has outlawed coal and still not acted on the Keystone pipeline. There's more but you get the drift.

Fenton · Aug 8, 2014

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Grant said:
It seems Community Organizers are only familiar with "Power Vacuums" when it comes to cleaning their carpets.

Every thing the left does is run through a Political filter first. It's why Obama's " leadership " abilities were described as leading from behind.

Obama doesn't lead at all, he waits, allows the situation to become nearly out of control, and then responds only when he starts receiving negative press.

poweRob · Aug 8, 2014

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US Conservative said:
ISIS is there because Obama decided to lose the peace in Iraq. HE put those people there.

And he's about to do the same in afghanistan.

What ****ing peace are you talking about? When Bush invaded there wasn't any peace from that point on. No peace was won. You are living in a giant fantasy.

US Conservative · Aug 8, 2014

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poweRob said:
What ****ing peace are you talking about? When Bush invaded there wasn't any peace from that point on. No peace was won. You are living in a giant fantasy.

Obama lied, innocents died.

Obama left Iraq to the terrorists and now they are slitting woman's throats and beheading children, kurd and Christian.

poweRob · Aug 8, 2014

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PeteEU said:
Sadly this will only help ISIS in their propaganda... the crusaders are coming.. and that will make Muslims rally behind them. It should have been the Saudis or Iranians that should have done the bombing.. or Turkey.

Well to see this clearly you have to say... "F the borders over there" because these peoples' alliances are religious and not national pride. This is where, once again, we will be in a shadow fight with Saudi Arabia.

ISIL - Sunni
Saudi Arabia - Sunni
Most of Iraq - Shi'ite
Iran - Shi'ite

Just watch and we'll find out soon that ISIL is being funded by money out of Saudi Arabia just like 9/11 was. I'd bet the bank on it.

So the whole food and water support I'm hoping will do loads in debunking any attempt ISIL can make about it being Muslim vs Christian when they are killing Shi'ite's and Kurds as fast as they can find them while we are feeding them in defense.

poweRob · Aug 8, 2014

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US Conservative said:
Obama lied, innocents died.

Obama left Iraq to the terrorists and now they are slitting woman's throats and beheading children, kurd and Christian.

What is it with you and your insane levels of ODS that you quote me and don't even address my post that you quoted. Just quote and verbally defecate more ODS garbage.

jmotivator · Aug 8, 2014

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EnigmaO01 said:
We trained their troops for close to ten years. How many years would a reasonable person think we should stay and continue to bleed our treasury? The American people wanted out and he campaigned he would get us out. That's one of the reasons he was elected. What's to blame?

At least he kept his word unlike Nixon.

How long have we been in South Korea?

Grant · Aug 9, 2014

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poweRob said:
What ****ing peace are you talking about? When Bush invaded there wasn't any peace from that point on. No peace was won. You are living in a giant fantasy.

It seems you must never listen to Obama in order to believe him. .FLASHBACK

Watch Joe Biden Call Iraq "One of the Great Achievements of This Administration" | The Daily Caller

US Conservative · Aug 9, 2014

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Fenton said:
Every thing the left does is run through a Political filter first. It's why Obama's " leadership " abilities were described as leading from behind.

Obama doesn't lead at all, he waits, allows the situation to become nearly out of control, and then responds only when he starts receiving negative press.

Agreed, but I'd add he only responds when he knows where the political winds are blowing-and how he can benefit from them.

Grant · Aug 9, 2014

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US Conservative said:
Agreed, but I'd add he only responds when he knows where the political winds are blowing-and how he can benefit from them.

And the negative press must be from the New York Times or the Washington Post.

Hamster Buddha · Aug 9, 2014

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EnigmaO01 said:
Bull****.

Nouri al-Maliki News and Video - FOX News Topics - FOXNews.com

It's true though. It's important to keep in mind the date of this video, that being end of 2010 and 2011. By this time, a new agreement was already suppose to of been reached, but Obama never was willing to accept the numbers of troops that would of both been acceptable to the Pentagon and been enough to convince Maliki to take the political hit he would of had to of taken. After seeing Obama and the Pentagon go around and around for months, Maliki eventually said, "**** it, I'll go with Iran." And that's what he did.

CanadaJohn · Aug 9, 2014

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polgara said:
Greetings, CJ. :2wave:

My questions here are why we are doing this unilaterally? What are the reasons that our allies are not backing this action and joining us?

Since I don't know the answers to those questions, I have come to the conclusion that the US is going to be blamed either way. Acting alone makes us look like aggressors by one side or the other, even though this is supposedly a humanitarian effort. So are we going to continue to help the people trapped in the mountains, or is this it? They're going to be hungry and thirsty next week too, if we don't get them out of harm's way. If we don't act, we are somehow shirking our duty, but our allies apparently don't agree with us. Maybe if we didn't have the reputation for being "policeman to the world," things would be different, but they sure don't have a problem expecting our help when they need it.

And lastly, our being invaded by thousands upon thousands of illegal children and adults, and being forced to feed, clothe, and house them was also called a "humanitarian crisis." Those words seem to be coming up a lot lately in the news.

Good morning Lady P

You're absolutely right in what you've posted.

fmw · Aug 9, 2014

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jmotivator said:
How long have we been in South Korea?

61 years but I don't think we are still there to protect South Korea. They can protect themselves. i think we feel comfortable being right close to a serious enemy where we can deal with them quickly. It is no different than the Russian inolvement with Cuba and Venezuela.

We are also still in Germany 68 years after that war. Are we protecting Europe from Germany? Obviously not. We are just closer to Western Russia than we would be at home.

VanceMack · Aug 9, 2014

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poweRob said:
What ****ing peace are you talking about? When Bush invaded there wasn't any peace from that point on. No peace was won. You are living in a giant fantasy.

Do you mean that 'peace' existed prior to Bush attacking and ousting Saddam Hussein?

VanceMack · Aug 9, 2014

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Grant said:
It seems you must never listen to Obama in order to believe him. .FLASHBACK

Watch Joe Biden Call Iraq "One of the Great Achievements of This Administration" | The Daily Caller

“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 American troops come marchin’ home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable government in Iraq that is actually movin’ toward a representative government. I’ve been there 17 times now. I go about every two months, three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It’s impressed me. I’ve been impressed, how they have been deciding to use the political process, rather than guns, to settle their differences.”

Apparently what he REALLY meant is that George Bush brought all that about. Cuz...we KNOW the current liberal rhetoric is "Its not Obamas fault!!!"

LetsGoBrandon · Aug 9, 2014

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Erod said:
This is why you don't announce ahead of time when you're going to withdraw most of your forces. The only real answer to this is to send them back in.

At this point, I don't think that will be necessary. What they are doing now is much like what they initially did with the Taliban in Afghanistan. A small number of special forces painting targets for the jets to precision bomb. The ISIS fighters are rag tag and have only had succsess due to virtually no organized opposition. If they do not limit the air strikes to protecting religious minorities, I think they can turn it around without sending in massive ground troops again.

Texmex · Aug 9, 2014

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This thread is nothing but a right-wing reach-around. :lamo

SgtRock · Aug 9, 2014

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Thrilla said:
the answer is primarily political... Obama couldn't take the chance of displeasing his base before an election.

FWIW, I don't think we should be doing ****....except maybe evacuating non-combatants to the nearest fiendly port as a humanitarian gesture

folks wanna fight?.. let em fight.
not our circus, not our monkeys.

if ISIS ever comes a callin'... destroy them with extreme malice.... but as long as they are dancing in thier own backyard, **** em'.. let em' dance.

Umm, they are not dancing. They are beheading children, mass execution of men women and children. Murdering parents and raping their baby girls. You are fine with this thrilla?

grip · Aug 9, 2014

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274ina said:
And we still dont care because electric cars are taking off, and MPG standards are in effect.

And if gas was $10 I would not care. And neither would any smart person in USA.

USA gas would be in a separate market because of ISIS, and we would export oil for massive profits!

they would not attack USA, because they have limited goals on the other side of the planet, and we WOULD NOT ATTACK them.

Electric cars and MPG are far from solving the petrol reliance.

At $10's a gallon, bet you the average American would care. Has nothing to do with smarts but more to do with income.

All gas comes from a global oil aggregate, and we don't produce enough spare capacity to export.

They already put out a statement claiming they want to put their flag on the White House, and we've already bombed them twice.

EnigmaO01 · Aug 9, 2014

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SgtRock said:
If the goal to prevent further genocide why didn't America foam a coalition months ago when ISIS crossed the border into Iraq? BTW this genocide was happening all along in Syria.

Because it's up to the Iraqi government to protect and defend their assets. We held their hands and trained their troops for over ten years. Al-Miliki needs to get his **** together and stop favoring the Sh**tes or move over and be replaced with someone that will. The American people don't have the stomach for another war in Iraq.

EnigmaO01 · Aug 9, 2014

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US Conservative said:
The fact that we are even THERE is evidence of Obama's failure-he wanted out despite the fact that terrorists were expanding across the middle east-and more political purposes-he wanted to be the president that ended the iraq war-even if that meant abandoning the nation to "end" the war-remember when "WIN" the war was the goal?

And he's going to do the same in afghanistan-what an utterly destructive and inept President.

Don't you ever get tired of repeating the same ol' partisan hack tripe ad nauseam over and over again? It not only gets old it's not factual and you people never have any solutions. Maybe you could actually stand up for your country and president instead of constantly looking for blame.

EnigmaO01 · Aug 9, 2014

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Grant said:
You are spot on, Polgara!

I like the move the President has taken so far, but it is difficult for America to get Allies right now because of the uncertainty of American leadership. Obama has already announced to the world that there will be no boots on the ground. Would that statement inspire your friends or frighten the enemy?

The USA, like it or not, is the world leader and we need America to act. I think we all know that if George Bush was President this wouldn't be happening, that there would be many countries aligned with the US, just as there was in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But now? I don't think so. The Militant leaders are simply much stronger and determined, and millions will die as a consequence.

More partisan bull****. It amazes me how much more competent Bush (Cheney) gets the longer he is out of office. The man was NEVER competent and set this country so far back it will take years for us recover.

You people are like a blaming the fireman because he didn't reconstruct the home after he put out the fire.

Grant · Aug 9, 2014

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VanceMack said:
“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 American troops come marchin’ home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable government in Iraq that is actually movin’ toward a representative government. I’ve been there 17 times now. I go about every two months, three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It’s impressed me. I’ve been impressed, how they have been deciding to use the political process, rather than guns, to settle their differences.”

And Obama said this.

“It’s harder to end a war than begin one,” Obama said at Fort Bragg. “Indeed, everything that American troops have done in Iraq--all the fighting and all the dying, the bleeding and the building, and the training and the partnering--all of it has led to this moment of success. Now, Iraq is not a perfect place. It has many challenges ahead. But we’re leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people. We’re building a new partnership between our nations. And we are ending a war not with a final battle, but with a final march toward home. This is an extraordinary achievement, nearly nine years in the making.”

The CIA said this.

In February, CIA Director John Brennan told the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that al Qaeda camps on both sides of the Syrian-Iraq border are a threat to the United States.

"Do you believe that there are training camps that have been established on either side of the Iraqi or Syrian border for the purposes of training al Qaida operatives?" House Intelligence Chairman Mike Rogers asked Brennan.

Brennan said: "There are camps inside of both Iraq and Syria that are used by al Qaida to develop capabilities that are applicable both in the theater as well as beyond.”

Chairman Rogers asked: "Do you believe that that ungoverned space presents a real threat to the United States of America, via al Qaida operations, or the West?”

"I do," said Brennan.

And the NYTimes said this.

“President Obama’s announcement on Friday that all American troops would leave Iraq by the end of the year was an occasion for celebration for many, but some top American military officials were dismayed by the announcement, seeing it as the president's putting the best face on a breakdown in tortured negotiations with the Iraqis. And for the negotiators who labored all year to avoid that outcome, it represented the triumph of politics over the reality of Iraq's fragile security's requiring some troops to stay, a fact everyone had assumed would prevail.”

Grant · Aug 9, 2014

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EnigmaO01 said:
More partisan bull****. It amazes me how much more competent Bush (Cheney) gets the longer he is out of office. The man was NEVER competent and set this country so far back it will take years for us recover. You people are like a blaming the fireman because he didn't reconstruct the home after he put out the fire.

Long on opinion, short on facts.

Unitedwestand13 · Aug 9, 2014

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Grant said:
Long on opinion, short on facts.

The same thing can be said about some of your posts.

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