The title question and the OP explains it simply. You're not getting it, or you refuse to get it.....what more can I say?
Bye-bye Orphan.
Well, that's not exactly an answer, is it? We're trying to find out if it's true that moral values are man-made! Okay, explain it then...
WHY IS IT "IMMORAL?"
There is no universal morality so you can not prove it.
In and of itself it is nothing but an action.
For an interpretation of that action you need a framework in which to base your opinion of it.
In our world that framework is man made.
Did you not see what I said?Well, that framework has to be based on something.
Yes.
Anyway, what is "good" reason? That's another question.
That's what Hard Truth had claimed in another section.
I'm saying, God is the basis for all morals - it's the standard from which moral values are based.
I'd like to try to prove this. So I'd like for you to please answer this.
If I shoot a pedestrian in the face with a shotgun.......is that good or bad?
No. It wasn't for self-defense or anything like that.
It was an answer to the question you wanted. Taking someone's life without due cause is a bad action. All humans are human, as such there is a fundamental base we all share and this sources natural rights. One has the right to life. There needs to be some external force applied before one may justly infringe upon the rights of another.
Why is it "BAD?"
What "natural" rights? What "right to live?"
Three people have already told you.Why is it "BAD?"
What "natural" rights? What "right to live?"
Then yes, what you did is "bad" or "wrong".
Absent any appeal to morality we simply can't condone that sort of behavior from a member of society because if we did we would then have to condone it from any member of society at any time and that would leave any and all of us in constant peril.
The answer, I'd think, is something that we would have to agree upon as a society.
Your reason implies that it's society who determines what's bad and wrong through government. If you can get enough people to vote a certain way, then you can change morals to be whatever you want.....so that cannot really determine what's right and wrong.
Then you should be locked up in a mental institution. Nobody shoots someone in the face for no reason whatsoever.
Changing the laws does not mean changing the morals. They are two different things.
Slavery was considered immoral by many long before it was made illegal.
Three people have already told you.
1. OrphanSlug told you it was based on "our culture". Which is society.
2. I told you it was based on a framework of belief. That framework can either be a personal belief or an in-general societal belief.
3. Soot told you it was based on society.
Now what do you not understand about the answers you were already given?
That's what Hard Truth had claimed in another section.
I'm saying, God is the basis for all morals - it's the standard from which moral values are based.
I'd like to try to prove this. So I'd like for you to please answer this.
If I shoot a pedestrian in the face with a shotgun.......is that good or bad?
Changing the laws does not mean changing the morals. They are two different things.
Slavery was considered immoral by many long before it was made illegal.
It doesn't apply.See my response to Soot.
Look up the definition of morals then you'll see what it has to do with laws.
I just told you. Maybe I didn't like the way he looked at me. That's a reason.
People in certain periods (like in Biblical times) have voluntarily indentured themselves to pay debts, or have voluntarily become slaves that
they may be cared for by their masters.
What "natural" rights?
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