Alito strikes out at liberals on the court while he and cons seem to live in a vacuum

[independentusa]

It seems that Alito does not like the liberals on the court talking about what is happening with guns and the thousands of shootings in the country when arguing gun laws. It seems Alito and the cons on the court live in a little vacuum, where what is happening in the country does not matter. I suspect that the NRA and the gun lobby will go after Red Flag laws next and the court will certainly strike them down.

 

[bongsaway]

It seems that Alito does not like the liberals on the court talking about what is happening with guns and the thousands of shootings in the country when arguing gun laws. It seems Alito and the cons on the court live in a little vacuum, where what is happening in the country does not matter. I suspect that the NRA and the gun lobby will go after Red Flag laws next and the court will certainly strike them down.

It will never change, we will continue to kill each other with firearms as long as this country exists. We idolize guns.

 

[Bucky]

It seems that Alito does not like the liberals on the court talking about what is happening with guns and the thousands of shootings in the country when arguing gun laws. It seems Alito and the cons on the court live in a little vacuum, where what is happening in the country does not matter. I suspect that the NRA and the gun lobby will go after Red Flag laws next and the court will certainly strike them down.

Shouldn't it be that Alito, "lashes" out at liberals?

Why don't we address the fact that these shooters show disturbing signs of violence? They post on social media about perpetrating mass shootings weeks in advance. The peers of these shooters are not surprised. The teachers and guidance counselors recognize red flags yet...... nothing is done until people are hurt.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

The US needs more guns

Everyone in NYC should carry a gun, imagine a subway full of people and someone bumble into someone having a bad day and goes into Karen mode, with guns a shoot out. Without guns, a pushing fight

 

[Hypothetical]

It seems that Alito does not like the liberals on the court talking about what is happening with guns and the thousands of shootings in the country when arguing gun laws. It seems Alito and the cons on the court live in a little vacuum, where what is happening in the country does not matter. I suspect that the NRA and the gun lobby will go after Red Flag laws next and the court will certainly strike them down.

the job of the SCOTUS is to interpret the meaning of the constitution of the U.S. AS IT IS WRITTEN and applies to other law. it is NOT to address current political discourse to change the meaning of that document.

IF things are to be done about rights outlined in the Constitution, ways to do so by the legislature have been included.

 

[braindrain]

It seems that Alito does not like the liberals on the court talking about what is happening with guns and the thousands of shootings in the country when arguing gun laws. It seems Alito and the cons on the court live in a little vacuum, where what is happening in the country does not matter. I suspect that the NRA and the gun lobby will go after Red Flag laws next and the court will certainly strike them down.

No what he apparently doesn’t like is them arguing for unconstitutional things while using bs comments to do so.

 

[Deuce]

The idea that a law has to have an analogue from the founding fathers is... going to be a giant problem.

 

[Hypothetical]

The idea that a law has to have an analogue from the founding fathers is... going to be a giant problem.

individual liberties are at the very heart of our country. if you cannot garner support enough to change those liberties in the prescribed way, then you do not have enough support to warrant doing so.

the whole purpose of the way our government is laid out rests upon that fact. It has nothing to do with analogue from the founders.

 

[Deuce]

It has nothing to do with analogue from the founders.

SCOTUS has brought this up specifically.

 

[Credence]

the job of the SCOTUS is to interpret the meaning of the constitution of the U.S. AS IT IS WRITTEN and applies to other law. it is NOT to address current political discourse to change the meaning of that document.

IF things are to be done about rights outlined in the Constitution, ways to do so by the legislature have been included.

You mean like the original decision and upheld more than once that abortion was enshrined in the constitution but now it's not?

They need to stay out of women's health issues.

Now Thomas wants to revisit same sex marriage and contraception. This is activism

 

[independentusa]

the job of the SCOTUS is to interpret the meaning of the constitution of the U.S. AS IT IS WRITTEN and applies to other law. it is NOT to address current political discourse to change the meaning of that document.

IF things are to be done about rights outlined in the Constitution, ways to do so by the legislature have been included.

But they have failed to do so. The constitution says you can have a gun as part of well regulated militia. That only changed when the cons on the court made it an individual right just a few years ago. After that we had to know that as the court got even more con, this would happen. The cons now will have the blood on their hands for every death in the future.

 

[independentusa]

No what he apparently doesn’t like is them arguing for unconstitutional things while using bs comments to do so.

I will go with their decision then. They said gun laws should be based on history. I suggest then we allow only guns that are one shot and have to be loaded with black powder.

 

[Credence]

Constitution or activism???

 

[Hypothetical]

But they have failed to do so. The constitution says you can have a gun as part of well regulated militia. That only changed when the cons on the court made it an individual right just a few years ago. After that we had to know that as the court got even more con, this would happen. The cons now will have the blood on their hands for every death in the future.

2 separate parts... individual rights to arms is not hinged on the militia.

 

[NWRatCon]

In three opinions in two days - really, throughout the last two years - the conservative cabal has demonstrated the OP's premise in spades. It's not just Alito. Simply put, they have absolutely no interest in how the world actually works, and most importantly could care less about civil rights, period. The era of the federal courts protecting individual rights is over.

 

[Cameron]

It seems that Alito does not like the liberals on the court talking about what is happening with guns and the thousands of shootings in the country when arguing gun laws. It seems Alito and the cons on the court live in a little vacuum, where what is happening in the country does not matter. I suspect that the NRA and the gun lobby will go after Red Flag laws next and the court will certainly strike them down.

Jurists like Alito, Scalia and Thomas have always firmly been in the category of can dish it out, but can't take it themselves.

 

[Cameron]

In three opinions in two days - really, throughout the last two years - the conservative cabal has demonstrated the OP's premise in spades. It's not just Alito. Simply put, they have absolutely no interest in how the world actually works, and most importantly could care less about civil rights, period. The era of the federal courts protecting individual rights is over.

They care about Christian rights, just not civil rights.

 

[NWRatCon]

But they have failed to do so. The constitution says you can have a gun as part of well regulated militia. That only changed when the cons on the court made it an individual right just a few years ago. After that we had to know that as the court got even more con, this would happen. The cons now will have the blood on their hands for every death in the future.

You're being too soft on them. Blood, yes, and lots of it, but treasure, too. The impact on the economy of this week's decisions will make the current economic issues a blip in comparison. And the economic and rights disparities will continue to beat down the poor, Middle class and minorities.

 

[TobyOne]

How about a compromise where liberals can still kill babies - but with guns.

 

[lwf]

It seems that Alito does not like the liberals on the court talking about what is happening with guns and the thousands of shootings in the country when arguing gun laws. It seems Alito and the cons on the court live in a little vacuum, where what is happening in the country does not matter. I suspect that the NRA and the gun lobby will go after Red Flag laws next and the court will certainly strike them down.

Everyone lives in a little vacuum, where all we care about are the shocking headlines we are subjected to in the news night after night, and care nothing for the actual numbers. It is all about preventing ourselves from feeling this repeated cycle of shock, sadness, and anger at the endless parade of tragedy that is prepared and presented to us for our consumption in order to sell us products we don't need. If your chosen news platform runs stories of immigrants raping or killing Americans, then it becomes a national threat and "there ought to be a law." If it runs stories about trans children being subjected to surgery against their will, or transwomen beating cis women in a sporting event, then that becomes a national threat and "there ought to be a law." If it runs stories about the horrors of partial birth abortion and women who regret having abortions, that becomes a national threat and "there ought to be a law." If it runs stories about a mentally ill person committing the mass murder of children, then the firearm he used to do it becomes a national threat and "there ought to be a law."

But when it doesn't appear in the news night after night, we simply don't give a shit. Even when it objectively kills far more people. That's why conservatives don't give a single shit about the one million Americans killed over the course of two years from a deadly pandemic, but feel justified in taking away their neighbor's freedom to make her own decisions about her own health care. And it's why liberals don't give a single shit about the 90,000 Americans killed every year abusing alcohol, but feel justified in taking away their neighbor's freedom to own the type of rifle that just so happened to be used in a mass shooting.

 

[Questerr]

The modern Conservative SCOTUS is on par with the court that decided Dred Scott.

 

[poweRob]

The US needs more guns

Everyone in NYC should carry a gun, imagine a subway full of people and someone bumble into someone having a bad day and goes into Karen mode, with guns a shoot out. Without guns, a pushing fight

Well I don't see why we there are age restrictions. That's ageism bigotry. Babies need guns too. And cons have told us that fetus' are babies so lets Uzi up all zygotes and fetus'.

 

[NWRatCon]

The modern Conservative SCOTUS is on par with the court that decided Dred Scott.

It's hard to get people to understand that when we can't talk about race in school. Think talking about it is uncomfortable? Let's see how you like living it.

 

[Buckeyes85]

2 separate parts... individual rights to arms is not hinged on the militia.

We appreciate the NRA mindset is that militia is not even mentioned in the 2nd amendment, or can simply be ignored. But it's there for a reason.

Moreover, like many others, you start with the mistaken belief that the original bill of rights outlined all the rights the people had. It did not.

Additionally, the protections/restrictions contained in the bill of rights had no application to the states; just the federal government. So are you ok with the states being free to restrict guns any way they want?

 

[Outlook]

It seems that Alito does not like the liberals on the court talking about what is happening with guns and the thousands of shootings in the country when arguing gun laws. It seems Alito and the cons on the court live in a little vacuum, where what is happening in the country does not matter. I suspect that the NRA and the gun lobby will go after Red Flag laws next and the court will certainly strike them down.

Here you go again, tackling a topic you didn't research. Nearly half the states have some form of red flag laws, including New York. You know the state where a mentally ill teenager shot people at a grocery store. You know the kid who people knew was mentally ill and despite red flag laws did nothing.

This is how serious the left is about gun violence:
You have a CA DA who had the opportunity to put a gangbanger in jail for three years for felony gun possession, but instead put him on probation with 20 days served. That gangbanger killed 2 cops.
You have a bail reform law in NYS that if you are caught with an illegal gun, no bail required. In the past, possession of an illegal gun was a mandatory jail term. Not with the democrats, it's racist. Law and order is racists.