Actually it’s not medical debt. Studies of people who declare medical bankruptcy reveal that medical debt made up a very small portion of their overall debt.
Medical demand won’t explode. Most people without insurance are relatively healthy.
There is the run. Medicares price is often less than the cost of care . Without higher reimbursement from private insurance companies many facilities would close.
No. It would create less care for less money. There is no free lunch here. You cannot get the savings you plan on getting without addressing reimbursement being lower than the cost of care.
No. Because government insurances can be the worst to deal with. Particularly if you plan on getting this massive savings.
Bankruptcies would remain about the same.
Not for healthcare . And not for reimbursement.
The problem is that the current reimbursement by Medicare is causing hospital closures and fewer physicians NOW .
Not really.
No. Because the government is already driving reimbursement down. Which of course is causing hospitals to close.
Insurance companies are definitely the problem.
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One no. Healthcare does not suck, healthcare insurance sucks.
No because hospitals don’t set prices . Insurance does.
Nope. But let’s be honest when we talk about it
The government did nothing of the sort.That's true, I should have been more precise, but it's still makes the situation worse:
True. But that bill is based on insurance companies and based on how healthcare works . How much demand is there for ventilators do you think? Do you think every ventilator is being used by the hospital every day? If course not.
Common sens. If you are really ill generally you can’t work which means you qualify for Medicaid and Medicare.
Well DPC basically set up their own insurance company and charge their monthly fee as high as they can above their costs.
No it doesn’t. In fact your friends chance of surviving her cancer is among the best in the world . One of the advantages of our system but one of the reasons it costs more.
A bit of fiction there.
Yeah no.
And how many Americans are on a waiting list right now?
Not true at all . The us government Medicaid , ca and Medicare have consistently lowered what they pay for treatments procedures and doctors visits.
We do have that. Not health insurance.
Not likely. There is no free lunch here.
Average IN THE US is 28 days for elective surgery.
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First off, why are you focused on elective surgery when most people are more concerned about medical emergencies and necessary medical treatments? Second, be that as it may, Switzerland has the same wait period as the US for elective surgeries and most everyone else (who also have universal healthcare) have shorter wait times for necessary procedures at a much lower cost to the patient.Average IN THE US is 28 days for elective surgery.
“As the following chart also shows, waiting times for non-emergency surgeries also varied widely from one country to another. In 2023, the average waiting time was lowest in the U.S. and Switzerland (28 days),”
Infographic: Healthcare: How Long Do Patients Have To Wait?
This chart shows the average waiting time for a doctor's appointment and for non-emergency surgery in 2023 (in days).
In Canada the median time is 30 WEEKS
“In Canada, the average wait time for elective surgery can vary significantly, with some procedures having longer waits than others. The median wait time for a referral from a general practitioner to treatment is 30 weeks according to the Fraser Institute. However, this is just a national average, and wait times can vary significantly by province, specialty, and the specific procedure”
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First of all it is the fault of the current system that we pay twice as much as the rest of the world for HC with worse outcomes than them. We have plenty of proven fixes to learn from too. You just have to realize that we are far behind in the administration of HC and need to learn to do better. This obsession with maintaining the bloated profits of insurers is the first thing that needs to go. They just write the checks.
Doctors are overpaid but that is mostly because insurers profits increase as costs increase. They have a vested interest in keeping HC cost rising every year.The more we pay for HC the more the insurers make.
Healthcare should not be part of the free market. What price do you put on your life? HC is a right of citizenship in every other nation but ours and that is shameful. Greed has no place when people's lives are in the balance.That's true, and the reason is because of government regulation <surprise> and I started a thread about it:
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LOL You didn't know that we supply food for the hungry all over the world? You think it is just fine to let people starve to death?Using this argument food should be provided by the state as well. That has been tried many times:
Holodomor | Facts, Definition, & Death Toll | Britannica
Holodomor, man-made famine that claimed millions of lives in the Soviet republic of Ukraine in 1932–33. Because the famine was so damaging, and because it was covered up by Soviet authorities, it has played a large role in Ukrainian public memory, particularly since Ukraine gained independence...Great Chinese Famine - Wikipedia
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Ethiopia - Derg, Famine, Revolution | Britannica
Ethiopia - Derg, Famine, Revolution: The Derg borrowed its ideology from competing Marxist parties, all of which arose from the student movement. One of them, the Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Party (EPRP), believed so strongly in civilian rule that it undertook urban guerrilla war against...
It is true. But if that national standard was lowered to current Medicare levels ( which is what is being proposed or even LOWER)
As pointed out bankruptcy is a result of loss of income. Medical bankruptcy occurs in.countries with universal healthcare insurance as well.
Sure but there is no free lunch. Everyone thinks “ but but they spend so much less than the us on healthcare. But frankly that’s really not true.
Because that’s one of the fownsides of a Medicare for all plan.
Well if you read your own citation , they only have shorter times for a gp. And that’s a function of tge number of gps and reimbursement in this country. We have a dearth of general practitioners in part because reimbursement is so low and Medicare for all would make it lower.Second, be that as it may, Switzerland has the same wait period as the US for elective surgeries and most everyone else (who also have universal healthcare) have shorter wait times for necessary procedures at a much lower cost to the patient.
Healthcare wait times across the world | Compare the Market
New research from Compare the Market compares the average number of days spent waiting for a GP and elective surgery in 10 different countries across the globe.
People with Medicare often have co-pays. They also just cant walk-in to their Drs and sometimes the appointment for non-urgent care can be weeks. . They need an appointment.
SNAP exists to feed the poor, sick, aged, and hungry in the USA, so the states does supply food to the indigent.
