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After this, America really needs to talk about wages and worker protections

Entirely different. But if you must know, members of the military are not paid that well.

And by the way, the existence of the U.S. hasn't been threatened in a hot war since the War of 1812. If then.

Exactly. They should be paid for every day life, not for the crisis!

It's not entirely different. People stocking grocery stores are currently what stands between you and the collapse of society.
 
Exactly. They should be paid for every day life, not for the crisis!

It's not entirely different. People stocking grocery stores are currently what stands between you and the collapse of society.
Their rent checks aren't going to mean much if the shelves are empty.
 
I hope the country's workers pay attention during all this. For years, millions of people have been told they're just not worth fifteen measly bucks an hour. Now, suddenly, they're "essential employees." They're keeping grocery shelves stocked, keeping gas stations running, working drive-throughs and restaurant takeout counters. Obsessively cleaning and scrubbing all these establishments you insist that you just MUST walk around. All to keep you safe, fed, and happy. Placing themselves at greater risk to do it, by the way. That breaks down, civilization only lasts as long as the food in your pantry.

But right wingers in particular are steadfast in their beliefs that the free market should be left to provide. Well, it hasn't. These essential people are underpaid, they don't have enough PTO to handle situations like this, so they have no choice but to work. America is alone in the first world in lacking such basic worker protections as paid sick leave, maternity leave, etc. We lack the safety net of universal healthcare, many of these people getting laid off are losing health insurance. Nice time for that, eh? (and, let it be noted that I am absolutely not giving a pass to the lukewarm, useless "moderate" Democrats)

Amazon is asking the public for donations to fund extra sick leave for their employees. A trillion dollar company. They paid negative federal income taxes in 2018. The company is owned by the wealthiest man on the entire planet.

Young people in particular? You need to remember this in November. And every November. You're essential. This country falls apart without you. You deserve better. Make them do better. Or get the guillotines out. It's what the founding fathers would have wanted.

And don't get me started on the sacrifices that medical workers are being asked to make. How many of them are going to die because we just can't let the Dow ****ing Jones drop too low?



"And don't get me started on the sacrifices that medical workers are being asked to make. How many of them are going to die because we just can't let the Dow ****ing Jones drop too low?"

As many as it takes, if trump has His way.
 
What happened to 70 dollars an hr? You don't suddenly have a priblem with your ideology do you?

What happened to zero? You don't suddenly have a problem with your ideology do you?
 
Then if you have not already start your own business and run it where everyone is paid the same. Bet you don't last long.

Like I said, you would devalue the worth of a supervisor and more skilled employees.
He's paid the same amount. Are you somehow worth less if other people are now paid more? Talk about envy.
 
You fail to realize that higher prices reduce demand. So, for instance, your new Big Mac's higher prices will cause you to sell only 80 per day instead of 100. Suddenly, you have to raise prices more to cover fixed costs, price goes up, demand goes down even more. This is precisely what happened in NYC when restaurant employees got huge minimum wage increases and other labor regulations, tons of restaurants closed down.



Again, I propose you raise some capital and start renting property. You can solve the world's problems with your fair view of equitable distribution of wealth and income.



And, to my previous point, there is an enormous shortage of people willing to be truckers and you complain on the internet that people can't find decent jobs that pay a living wage. No snowflake, they want jobs that fit their lifestyles and ideals that pay them a living wage.
We have more than enough restaurants. This isn't an excuse to pay people starvation wages. And yes, if they qualify for food stamps they are starvation wages.
 
He's paid the same amount. Are you somehow worth less if other people are now paid more? Talk about envy.

Talk about ignorant. I never had an expectation of being paid the same as a supervisor. You know, someone who had more skill, more knowledge in the field. That is why I worked my way up the chain.

For example I do not believe a basic wildland firefighter is worth the same pay as a Type I Incident Commander.
 
Talk about ignorant. I never had an expectation of being paid the same as a supervisor. You know, someone who had more skill, more knowledge in the field. That is why I worked my way up the chain.

For example I do not believe a basic wildland firefighter is worth the same pay as a Type I Incident Commander.
How does your value go down if others are paid more? Are you envious?
 
What are you trying to say? We could have solved simple poverty Yesterday in a market friendly manner, but for the "social Horror" incurred by the right wing that even the Poor may benefit.

Yes, we have all heard your drivel about how the government should create money so they can give it to you and your basement dwelling brethren. Get.a.job.

At what point did you lose the shame of being a leech?

What about thirty-five dollars an hour so even the Poor can pay their share of taxes?

This is some funny ****. Suddenly everyone is upper middle class! Where, exactly, do you think that $2T in wages is going to come from exactly? Furthermore, why would every business simply ship their jobs overseas to someplace else? As I have said before, go start your own business and show us the way kiddo.

We have more than enough restaurants. This isn't an excuse to pay people starvation wages. And yes, if they qualify for food stamps they are starvation wages.

When you go to a restaurant, assuming they take your food stamps, do you tip 100% on top of the check? Otherwise you are just part of the problem by not tipping enough.
 
You didn't answer my question.

what question

eliminate it completely?

not sure it could change much....you all think it would

this is not the turn of the 1900's and we dont have child labor, and slaves anymore

workers can comes and go as they please...negotiate their own wages...and the sky is the limit
 
We have more than enough restaurants. This isn't an excuse to pay people starvation wages. And yes, if they qualify for food stamps they are starvation wages.
I am sure those people who lost their jobs working at those restaurants feel a little different then you
 
He's paid the same amount. Are you somehow worth less if other people are now paid more? Talk about envy.

So tell me how many people do you think would be willing to do things like spend money on further education or take on jobs with increased responsibilities and stress when they will make no more money then the person doing an entry level job.

The problem with the majority of your ideas is they don't work in the real world.

They are probably great in fairy tale land.
 
How does your value go down if others are paid more? Are you envious?

Why should someone bust their ass and spend tons of money going to med school to be a doctor when they will make the same amount of money as the person cleaning the hospital.
 
How does your value go down if others are paid more? Are you envious?

are you really this stupid? or just playing this stupid on the internet, being a troll?

really simple now, so a 1st grader can understand

employee A is a newbie....no skills, so time on job, no training etc.....new hire now makes $ 9 bucks an hour
employee B is a two year veteran...shows up, has learned the basic skills, and now earns $ 11.50 an hour
employee C is a 5 year veteran....supervisor of 4 other employees....making $ 16.00 bucks an hour
employee D is a 12 year vet who runs the department, and oversees 16 people....salaried at 55k annually

now the rules change....and employee A get raises to $ 15 bucks an hour....
what do you do with employee B, C, and D if anything?
 
I'm not. Just disagree with your view. Does that bother you?
No, I know plenty of people disagree. We have a fundamentally different understanding of the purpose of an economy.
 
I am sure those people who lost their jobs working at those restaurants feel a little different then you
A job that pays $8 per hour isn't a big loss at all. The safety net covers it.
 
So tell me how many people do you think would be willing to do things like spend money on further education or take on jobs with increased responsibilities and stress when they will make no more money then the person doing an entry level job.

The problem with the majority of your ideas is they don't work in the real world.

They are probably great in fairy tale land.
Why are people who do these things making little more than subsistence level? That's the more interesting question.
 
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