After Ohio's Supreme Court win, voting rights advocates fear more aggressive purges

[JacksinPA]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ourt-win-voting-rights-advocates-fear-n882086

Advocates note that Democratic-leaning groups are disproportionately affected by strict voter roll maintenance systems like Ohio's.

After the Supreme Court upheld Ohio's aggressive methods of pruning its voter registration rolls Monday, a triumphant Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted suggested other states look to it as a model.

That's exactly what voting rights advocates are afraid of.

"If you're a state that wants to get in the business of progressively purging your voters, they have a green light to essentially to copy the Ohio system," Paul Smith, vice president of Campaign Legal Center, said in a call with reporters Monday.
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Looks like voter suppression to me if it affects one party over another.

 

[DarkWizard12]

you know, if you did your democratic duty and voted, like democrats always tell people to do, you wouldn't have to worry about it, now would ya?

 

[JacksinPA]

you know, if you did your democratic duty and voted, like democrats always tell people to do, you wouldn't have to worry about it, now would ya?

Don't lecture me on voting. I haven't missed even a primary since I was 18.

 

[NonoBadDog]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ourt-win-voting-rights-advocates-fear-n882086

Advocates note that Democratic-leaning groups are disproportionately affected by strict voter roll maintenance systems like Ohio's.

After the Supreme Court upheld Ohio's aggressive methods of pruning its voter registration rolls Monday, a triumphant Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted suggested other states look to it as a model.

That's exactly what voting rights advocates are afraid of.

"If you're a state that wants to get in the business of progressively purging your voters, they have a green light to essentially to copy the Ohio system," Paul Smith, vice president of Campaign Legal Center, said in a call with reporters Monday.
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Looks like voter suppression to me if it affects one party over another.

The only reason for not voting for eyars is that one is lazy or stupid. I think that you are counting liberals short by saying that they are disproportionately affected. I don't necessarily think liberals are too stupid to remember to vote or are to lazy to vote.

 

[Mizzy22]

The only reason for not voting for eyars is that one is lazy or stupid. I think that you are counting liberals short by saying that they are disproportionately affected. I don't necessarily think liberals are too stupid to remember to vote or are to lazy to vote.

Historically Democrats have disappointing turn out at midterms.
They are talking a blue wave,I'm skeptical till I see it.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Historically Democrats have disappointing turn out at midterms.
They are talking a blue wave,I'm skeptical till I see it.

That is true. But I do think people who wouldn’t normally vote, like the college-aged, will turn out in higher numbers due to Trump. But I am just guessing.

 

[Mizzy22]

That is true. But I do think people who wouldn’t normally vote, like the college-aged, will turn out in higher numbers due to Trump. But I am just guessing.

I hope you're right!

 

[faithful_servant]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ourt-win-voting-rights-advocates-fear-n882086

Advocates note that Democratic-leaning groups are disproportionately affected by strict voter roll maintenance systems like Ohio's.

After the Supreme Court upheld Ohio's aggressive methods of pruning its voter registration rolls Monday, a triumphant Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted suggested other states look to it as a model.

That's exactly what voting rights advocates are afraid of.

"If you're a state that wants to get in the business of progressively purging your voters, they have a green light to essentially to copy the Ohio system," Paul Smith, vice president of Campaign Legal Center, said in a call with reporters Monday.
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Looks like voter suppression to me if it affects one party over another.

Sounds like enforcing the law equitably to me. If Dems are impacted more than Reps., then maybe the Dems should be looking at what THEY are doing wrong and fix it.

 

[faithful_servant]

Don't lecture me on voting. I haven't missed even a primary since I was 18.

He was using the plural "you" referring to Dems. in general and not just you. But I'm pretty sure you knew that and are just engaging in a little troll-style victimization.

 

[Mizzy22]

you know, if you did your democratic duty and voted, like democrats always tell people to do, you wouldn't have to worry about it, now would ya?

Sadly you have a point,to many Democrats only come out for Presidential elections

 

[NonoBadDog]

Historically Democrats have disappointing turn out at midterms.
They are talking a blue wave,I'm skeptical till I see it.

I don't think there will be a blue wave but bhey could have a chance this mid term. Usually the party of the current president loses seats. The message, or lack of one, is the problem for the Democrats right now. That and the disunity between ultra liberals and the establishment DNC and Perez's fund raising abilities. The DCCC has had great success in fund raising. That could help repair the short comings of Perez in the DNC. They still have a chance to pick up a good amount seats if they get their party on one page and come up with an effective message. I have no idea what that message could be. That message isn't"Trump sucks". People are tuning out when they hear that message because it's become a boring mantra that people are getting tired of hearing.

 

[Mizzy22]

I don't think there will be a blue wave but bhey could have a chance this mid term. Usually the party of the current president loses seats. The message, or lack of one, is the problem for the Democrats right now. That and the disunity between ultra liberals and the establishment DNC and Perez's fund raising abilities. The DCCC has had great success in fund raising. That could help repair the short comings of Perez in the DNC. They still have a chance to pick up a good amount seats if they get their party on one page and come up with an effective message. I have no idea what that message could be. That message isn't"Trump sucks". People are tuning out when they hear that message because it's become a boring mantra that people are getting tired of hearing.

I think the Democratic Party has seen it's better day.
Needs to be replaced by a true Democratic Socialist party!

 

[NonoBadDog]

I think the Democratic Party has seen it's better day.
Needs to be replaced by a true Democratic Socialist party!

I wouldn't go that far.

 

[Mizzy22]

I wouldn't go that far.

The Democratic party as it stands now is directionless.All they got is anti-Trump

 

[eohrnberger]

If you haven't voted on some 6 years isn't it highly likely that you've moved away from the voting district?
If you haven't voted on some 6 years isn't it highly likely that you're not inclined to vote regardless?

Even if your registration has been removed from the registered voter rolls, that doesn't mean that you are prevented in any way from re-registering so that you can vote.

I'm not seeing a problem here.

 

[JacksinPA]

The Democratic party as it stands now is directionless.All they got is anti-Trump

Repulsion is a powerful motivator.

 

[Mizzy22]

Repulsion is a powerful motivator.

They need a platform besides,neverTrump

 

[Removable Mind]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ourt-win-voting-rights-advocates-fear-n882086

Advocates note that Democratic-leaning groups are disproportionately affected by strict voter roll maintenance systems like Ohio's.

After the Supreme Court upheld Ohio's aggressive methods of pruning its voter registration rolls Monday, a triumphant Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted suggested other states look to it as a model.

That's exactly what voting rights advocates are afraid of.

"If you're a state that wants to get in the business of progressively purging your voters, they have a green light to essentially to copy the Ohio system," Paul Smith, vice president of Campaign Legal Center, said in a call with reporters Monday.
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Looks like voter suppression to me if it affects one party over another.

The 3 branch system of checks and balances is dead. The Supreme Court needs to be moved into the WH aide's basement offices - where they claim is really rat infested.

 

[Howard the Duck]

Sadly you have a point,to many Democrats only come out for Presidential elections

That's because they have other things to do, like securing food, clothing, and shelter on a daily basis.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs describes this:



The more income you have the higher on the pyramid you will be.

If you are collecting bottles to fund dinner and lodging you will have zero time or interest in following the news or voting. You have bigger problems.

The better off you are the more time you have to develop and follow other interests.

So it's not a Democratic Republican thing. It's a cash thing.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...zBNsQFgg7MAQ&usg=AOvVaw1nqDEBqDS9AkJuTQ7D6ix9

 

[dcsports]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ourt-win-voting-rights-advocates-fear-n882086

Advocates note that Democratic-leaning groups are disproportionately affected by strict voter roll maintenance systems like Ohio's.

After the Supreme Court upheld Ohio's aggressive methods of pruning its voter registration rolls Monday, a triumphant Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted suggested other states look to it as a model.

That's exactly what voting rights advocates are afraid of.

"If you're a state that wants to get in the business of progressively purging your voters, they have a green light to essentially to copy the Ohio system," Paul Smith, vice president of Campaign Legal Center, said in a call with reporters Monday.
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Looks like voter suppression to me if it affects one party over another.

The voting rights advocates are concerned about maintaining the voter rolls - and would support efforts to clean them up.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I think the Democratic Party has seen it's better day.
Needs to be replaced by a true Democratic Socialist party!

A third party?
Name one example of a third party that has bothered to do the work from the ground up, that is, filling seats first at the local, town, city, county and state level, and then filling congressional seats so that they have a legitimate and accessible support base.
It has never happened, which is why talk of replacing the Democratic Party is really talk of "third parties", which is pipe dreaming talk which never materializes.

On the other hand, both major parties have been aggressively retooled and rebooted several times in the last hundred years, with 2010 being the latest example when the Tea Party, on a 1 billion dollar infusion from FreedomWorks, took over the GOP and turned it into a radical ultra-Right party, which is the party you see today. Dozens of traditional conservatives were ousted and dozens more have given up and are retiring.

Not saying I like what they did, just pointing out that it happened.
The time before that was when Democrats in the East, West and North finally got an up close look at the behavior of Southern Democrats in the Jim Crow South. They disowned the Southerners, who first tried being Dixiecrats, then many of them formed the American Independent Party. Then Nixon swooped in with The Southern Strategy and all those old Jim Crow segregationist Dems became Republicans.
The Democratic Party had embraced Civil Rights FULLY, and wanted nothing to do with their reactionary bigoted Southern cousins.
Both major parties get remade all the time.

It is time to remake the Democratic Party again, as a true liberal working class party. That's what's needed.
And all it takes is a little money, a focused statement of values, some unity and getting the word out.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

That's because they have other things to do, like securing food, clothing, and shelter on a daily basis.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs describes this:

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The more income you have the higher on the pyramid you will be.

If you are collecting bottles to fund dinner and lodging you will have zero time or interest in following the news or voting. You have bigger problems.

The better off you are the more time you have to develop and follow other interests.

So it's not a Democratic Republican thing. It's a cash thing.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...zBNsQFgg7MAQ&usg=AOvVaw1nqDEBqDS9AkJuTQ7D6ix9

But Democratic Party officials can help with that.
Kids even gave their lives to help disenfranchised poor voters get registered back in the 60's, so it's not like it hasn't been done before.

 

[Plus Ultra]

I don't think more "aggressive" purges are possible, Ohio's is as aggressive as possible under the law, what is more likely is that other 'red' states may apply similar purges (not a bad idea in my view).

 

[Mizzy22]

A third party?
Name one example of a third party that has bothered to do the work from the ground up, that is, filling seats first at the local, town, city, county and state level, and then filling congressional seats so that they have a legitimate and accessible support base.
It has never happened, which is why talk of replacing the Democratic Party is really talk of "third parties", which is pipe dreaming talk which never materializes.

On the other hand, both major parties have been aggressively retooled and rebooted several times in the last hundred years, with 2010 being the latest example when the Tea Party, on a 1 billion dollar infusion from FreedomWorks, took over the GOP and turned it into a radical ultra-Right party, which is the party you see today. Dozens of traditional conservatives were ousted and dozens more have given up and are retiring.

Not saying I like what they did, just pointing out that it happened.
The time before that was when Democrats in the East, West and North finally got an up close look at the behavior of Southern Democrats in the Jim Crow South. They disowned the Southerners, who first tried being Dixiecrats, then many of them formed the American Independent Party. Then Nixon swooped in with The Southern Strategy and all those old Jim Crow segregationist Dems became Republicans.
The Democratic Party had embraced Civil Rights FULLY, and wanted nothing to do with their reactionary bigoted Southern cousins.
Both major parties get remade all the time.

It is time to remake the Democratic Party again, as a true liberal working class party. That's what's needed.
And all it takes is a little money, a focused statement of values, some unity and getting the word out.

No,Democratic Socialist Party ,replace the dead Democrats

 

[Mizzy22]

I don't think more "aggressive" purges are possible, Ohio's is as aggressive as possible under the law, what is more likely is that other 'red' states may apply similar purges (not a bad idea in my view).

People not being able to vote.How National Socialist of you