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Afghan President Rejects U.S. Apology Over Killings - FoxNews.com
KABUL, Afghanistan – Afghanistan's president on Sunday rejected a U.S. apology for the mistaken killing of nine Afghan boys in a NATO air attack and said civilian casualties are no longer acceptable.
According to a statement from his office, Hamid Karzai told Gen. David Petraeus, the top commander of coalition forces in Afghanistan, that expressing regret was not sufficient in last week's killing of the boys, ages 12 and under, by coalition helicopters.
Our people in essence this crook in office and now he gets our people killed with ridiculous rules of engagement
I am sick of us backing crooks and giving them billions and them then giving us crap.
On the subject of Afghanistan when are we going to shut down the drug trade. Is this another one of those items Obama can't call by it's real name like terrorism?
I don't remember them asking to be invaded, so your righteous indignation over him not appreciating your sacrifice to impose your value system on them may go unappreciated. Just tellin ya. I guess they were really tall 12 year olds with AK-shaped wood they had gathered.
I don't remember them asking to be invaded, so your righteous indignation over him not appreciating your sacrifice to impose your value system on them may go unappreciated. Just tellin ya. I guess they were really tall 12 year olds with AK-shaped wood they had gathered.
Afghanistan was not invaded and they are not being occupied today.
Don't you remember the celebrations of the Afghan people after the Taliban and pals were defeated in '02?
The civilian deaths are a direct result of the methods and tactics used by the Taliban and their jihadi pals.
You must come from a far corner of space...
Sad. The military isnt responsible even though they pulled the trigger?
We did take responsibility. The reason it happened is the methods and tactics used by the Taliban and their jihadi pals
Yes! Damn them for planting trees and those children for cutting firewood! How dare they!
Karzai did not come up with the rules of engagement. McChrystal and Petraeus did.
No doubt. But when Karzai first came to power he was basically the most viable candidate and we stuck with him.
How about you do your own damn research? Obama's mentioned the drug trade, but we have **** on our hands just dealing with our own drug problems much less Afghanistans. And drug money is hardly the only thing keeping the insurgency going.
U.S. troops battle both Taliban and their own rules. The Times compiled an informal list of the new rules from interviews with U.S. forces. Among them:
• No night or surprise searches.
• Villagers have to be warned prior to searches.
• ANA or ANP must accompany U.S. units on searches.
• U.S. soldiers may not fire at the enemy unless the enemy is preparing to fire first.
• U.S. forces cannot engage the enemy if civilians are present.
• Only women can search women.
• Troops can fire at an insurgent if they catch him placing an IED but not if insurgents are walking away from an area where explosives have been laid.
Sara A. Carter
KASHK-E-NOKHOWD, Afghanistan | Army Capt. Casey Thoreen wiped the last bit of sleep from his eyes before the sun rose over his isolated combat outpost.
His soldiers did the same as they checked and double-checked their weapons and communications equipment.
Ahead was a dangerous foot patrol into the heart of Taliban territory.
“Has anyone seen the [Afghan National Army] guys?” asked Capt. Thoreen, 30, the commander of Blackwatch Company, 2nd Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment with the 5th Stryker Brigade. “Are they not showing up?”
A soldier, who looked ghostly in the reddish light of a headlamp, shook his head.
“We can’t do anything if we don’t have the ANA or [the Afghan National Police],” said a frustrated Capt. Thoreen.
“We have to follow the Karzai 12 rules. But the Taliban has no rules,” he said. “Our soldiers have to juggle all these rules and regulations and they do it without hesitation despite everything.
It’s not easy for anyone out here.” via Washington Times – U.S. troops battle both Taliban and their own rules.
Source: Stand Up America
I don't remember them asking to be invaded, so your righteous indignation over him not appreciating your sacrifice to impose your value system on them may go unappreciated. Just tellin ya. I guess they were really tall 12 year olds with AK-shaped wood they had gathered.
I do. I remember the exact day they begged us to come kick their asses up between their ears. It was September 11th, 2001. I was in Cincinatti, Ohio, on my way to Dayton with a load of lumber.
Karzai is using another tactic to turn his people against NATO troops so they won't be looking at his own corrupt regime as closely. Look, people, we seriously need to get out of Afghanistan. We cannot nation-build in a tribal society, and even if we could there isn't a single, solitary instance of successful nation-building that the USA can even point to. (No, don't you dare say Iraq.)
This is not what our nation was built to do, invade other countries, put in puppet governments, then watch the internal carnage unfold. We need to GTFO now.
Last I remembered they were Saudi. I hate stereotypes... why do I keep running into people that are stereotypes?
Yes, it's in several newspapers. They responded to mortar fire without making sure where exactly it was coming from and who they were targeting.Do you know what actually happened? I don't know the exact details and I don't believe you do either.
Great deflection. Fallacious reasoning does not bode well here.The allied nations unintentionally killed scores of French civilians with naval gunfire and bombs on D-Day.
So naturally if the American government funded a group of people of British Descent to perform a terrorist attack you'd support that retaliation for such should be aimed at the British and not American's because clearly the descent of the individuals is the primary thing to focus on.
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if you hate running into stereotypes avoid looking in the mirror.
The Afghanistan government did not aid or fund the September 11 attacks, so your false analogy is pointless and irrelevant to the actual discussion at hand.
Last I remembered they were Saudi. I hate stereotypes... why do I keep running into people that are stereotypes?
Just so I know what avenue you're going for here...
Are you saying that the Taliban wasn't the government of Afghanistan or that they didn't have a hand in the 9/11 attacks?
Just so I know what avenue you're going for here...
Are you saying that the Taliban wasn't the government of Afghanistan or that they didn't have a hand in the 9/11 attacks?
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